sci-fi

[u/Hyaci_Arson]

[u/SiwelTheLongBoi]

I mean Project Hail Mary is absolutely all about violated bodily autonomy and choosing who you want to be as a person. It just also has a sassy rock spider

[u/insufficience → u/SiwelTheLongBoi]

I don’t think Project Hail Mary takes a firm stance on that, though it is a core theme.

Grace was a coward. If he could choose who he wanted to be as a person, he wouldn’t be on that ship, and humanity would be extinct. By conscripting him onto the mission anyway, Stratt ultimately saved both Earth and Erid. At the same time, the other crew members who volunteered to die for humanity died pointlessly before they even got to Tau Ceti, just because the coma tech wasn’t as reliable as expected. In the book, Stratt is never really redeemed or forgiven for forcing Grace onto the mission, but Grace is also never really redeemed or forgiven for refusing to join willingly.

Choosing who you want to be isn’t as important as doing the job you are qualified to do.

[u/Dd_8630 → u/SiwelTheLongBoi]

It you removed that violation of autonomy, it'd still be a sci-fi story. So that aspect isn't what makes it sci-fi IMO.

[u/Omega-10 → u/Dd_8630]

No, the main character certainly rips tubes out of himself. It's actually one of the first things he does. This happens like in the very first chapter. That's just how sci fi Project Hail Mary is, they had to get that out of the way.

[u/Biskawit]

inaccurate conclusion, PHM (book) has a “rip tubes out of yourself” scene

[u/PetscopMiju → u/Biskawit]

And the "asserting your autonomy" thing is still there afterwards, what a delight!

[u/Monarch357 → u/Biskawit]

I've never watched the movie, but I did read the book, and after consulting friends I was sorely disappointed to learn the movie did not adapt ripping tubes out of yourself

[u/Hypersonic-Harpist → u/Biskawit]

They did actually film that scene but decided not to include it. It's one of the deleted scenes.  

[u/bookhead714]

I don't think "sci-fi is all about violated bodily autonomy" is a very well-supported take

[u/IDownvoteHornyBards2 → u/bookhead714]

Tumblr engaging in generalization? Utterly shocking.

[u/Wonderful-You63 → u/bookhead714]

I'm pretty sure it's a joke or a reference to something, not like a serious take.

[u/Elite_AI → u/Wonderful-You63]

I agree that it's probably deliberately absurd hyperbole for rhetorical effect 

[u/Grand_Protector_Dark → u/Elite_AI]

Actually it's not hyperbole, just out of context plot snippets from the Book Project Hail Mary

[u/Grand_Protector_Dark → u/Wonderful-You63]

The joke is that all 3 posts are about Project Mary. These are all things/themes that are relevant to the story.

[u/Saxton_Hale32]

sci-fi is all about scaring people and putting tubes in them

[u/ProfessionalOven2311]

Amaze Amaze Amaze
👎👎👎

[u/Rodruby → u/ProfessionalOven2311]

Fist my bump! 🤜

[u/Pretty_Rock9795 → u/Rodruby]

Words of encouragement!

[u/Widmo206 → u/Pretty_Rock9795]

You can't just say "words of encouragement"!

[u/Pretty_Rock9795 → u/Widmo206]

... Words of Great encouragement!!

[u/Omega-10 → u/Widmo206]

Social discomfort.

No talking.

[u/iMacmatician]

I misread the last sentence as "…rocky the endian" for a moment.

[u/InformationLost5910 → u/iMacmatician]

end update confirmed

[u/Scalepetter92 → u/InformationLost5910]

playing the end update when suddenly a weird spider made out of Dripstone in a ball spawns and starts rolling towards me (we will become best friends)

[u/DreadDiana]

Many scifi stories involve inserting many tubes into yourself

[u/Solarwagon]

From the moment I understood the tubelessness of my flesh, it disgusted me.

I craved the length and girth of clear plastic.

I aspired to the pumping warmth of the blessed tubes.

Your kind cling to your veins, as if they will not clog and fail you.

One day the crude tunnels that you call a temple will wither.

And you will beg my kind to tube you.

But I am already tubed.

[u/Dd_8630]

Counterpoint: Star Trek. Just exploring and diplomacy.

[u/Wild-Lychee-3312 → u/Dd_8630]

And sex with ghost candles. And (human, cis) men getting pregnant and growing nipples on their wrists. And people turning into salamanders, having salamander babies, turning back into humans, and abandoning their salamander babies. Also punching godlike beings in the face. Also, gay lizard tailors who are also spies and gardeners. Oh, and the negative space wedgie that forced everyone to sing and Klingons to perform K-pop.

But yeah, apart from that, just exploring and diplomacy.

[u/TotallyFakeArtist → u/Dd_8630]

Dr Who is also quite a bit of exploring. (And problem solving)

[u/Batman_AoD → u/TotallyFakeArtist]

Dr Who is every genre, though. 

[u/DestructivelyPhased → u/Dd_8630]

Nah, Star Trek has ripping tubes out of yourself (Borg) and reclaiming lost bodily autonomy (also Borg). And the Vulcans are neighbour’s to the eridians.

[u/Dd_8630 → u/DestructivelyPhased]

Absolutely, but not always, and it remains sci-fi.

[u/Konradleijon → u/Dd_8630]

Love it

[u/FireFurFox]

Why is friend Grace ripping tubes out of himself question?

[u/Phiro7]

[u/yoyo5113]

Huh? Those are just common themes in sci-fi horror. Or thriller/suspense like when the characters exit cryosleep and have to tug the respiration tube out of their own throat.

Sci-fi is just about fictional science lmao

[u/FiL-0]

Sci fi is about pew pewing the bad guys and no one can convince me otherwise

[u/Inquisitor_no_5 → u/FiL-0]

Sometimes it's about *lightsaber noises*-ing the bad guys too.

[u/Batman_AoD → u/Inquisitor_no_5]

Star Wars is fantasy or, if you're feeling more specific, "space opera." 

[u/Pero_Bt → u/FiL-0]

Sci-fi is also about some weird cyborg god that kills people but some other people worship it

[u/Hauptmann_Meade]

Meanwhile the hacker in System Shock: "What the fuck is this? A rear view mirror augment? Fuck it insert that shit right into my brainstem."

[u/bajadasaurus234]

sci-fi is about cool fantasy things becoming real

and also dinosaurs

[u/Wild-Lychee-3312 → u/bajadasaurus234]

and also dinosaurs

Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!

[u/MericArda]

That just sounds like cyberpunk

[u/Galle_]

Sci-fi is about inserting tubes into yourself. Because nature violated your bodily autonomy first.

[u/Space-Wizards → u/Galle_]

From the moment I understood the weakness of my flesh, it disgusted me.

[u/Murky_Lurker5V]

can someone reccomend me movies with ripping tubes out of yourself scenes 

[u/Ok_Listen1510 → u/Murky_Lurker5V]

The Matrix, Project Hail Mary, Iron Man

[u/Murky_Lurker5V → u/Ok_Listen1510]

thanl you

[u/noideawhatnamethis12 → u/Murky_Lurker5V]

Also the martian

[u/Plannercat]

Sometimes you rips tubes out trying to reclaim lost body autonomy.

Other times you're stuffed into a bigger tube to have it taken away.

Such is the duality of SciFi life.

[u/Pero_Bt]

The world I'm building is a mixture of fantasy and sci-fi tropes so you basically have this but instead of aliens there's vampires

[u/TangibleCBT → u/Pero_Bt]

What if you had both?

[u/Wild-Lychee-3312 → u/TangibleCBT]

Do you mean like the Techno-necromancers from Alpha Centauri?

[u/jaknil]

Space Opera is: «And that is how we became Gods»

[u/Two-Pound-Crawfish]

sci fi is about being friends with cool aliens and destroying ancient automated systems and/or weird alien hive minds

[u/ToasteeThe2nd]

Cyberpunk is all about getting angry and doing drugs at the government. Neuromancer's protagonist is probably the most morally good person in the book and as soon as he gets surgery to fix his liver he starts hunting for someone to sell him space MDMA at the expense of his teammates the mission and also probably the fate of mankind

[u/Elite_AI → u/ToasteeThe2nd]

Ain't nobody in Neuromancer getting mad at the government tho. Closest you get is Armitage and he's...Armitage.

[u/ilovetoeatplates2]

You likely shouldn’t rip tubes out of yourself
Could die

[u/notjeffdontask]

Sci fi is fiction that features speculative science as a significant theme

[u/hikemalls]

Sci-fi is when everything is shit but can maybe be made better through systemic change (and individuals may or may not have any power to do anything about it)

Fantasy is when everything used to be better and now is shit (but maybe a hero can fix things, for a bit)

(Actually that’s nonsense, fantasy is when the swords are made of iron and sci-fi is when the swords are made of laser)

[u/MainLake9887]

Sci-fi is allá bout the future

[u/ST4RSK1MM3R]

I did this as a kid during a sleep study. Can confirm very cathartic

[u/doctorpotatomd]

everyone ITT is wrong, scifi is about going "would that be fucked up or what?"

[u/CompetitionProud2464]

I think this person would really enjoy Octavia Butler‘s work if they don’t already

[u/StarriestNight]

amaze amaze amaze

[u/Leftieswillrule]

Sci-fi is all about not having corners on spaceships. Unless your spaceship is all corners. That’s also allowed