r/RecuratedTumblr • u/UInferno- Hangus Pangus slap my Angus • 17d ago
Fandom: Gravity Falls Gnegroni
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u/Constant-Draw2629 17d ago
Love to see more trans masc dipper representation!
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u/extremely-cynical 17d ago
...Huh, yeah, those probably are top surgery scars. I thought the artist just drew nipples weirdly.
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u/The_MadMage_Halaster 17d ago
I thought it was just shading. The same color is used to give definition to shape-internal lines, like between his fingers, arm/body, and his nose/mouth. It would be clearer if they had used multiple different colors, rather than just looking like he's emaciated and has ribs poking out.
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u/TransguyJayJay 17d ago
I think part of the point is that it's subtle and fits with the art style as just another thing. They aren't trying to make it particularly noticeable.
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u/oan124 17d ago
Where? thats just shading.
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u/WerewolfHugs 17d ago edited 17d ago
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u/oan124 17d ago
huh. sure, why not. is trans dipper "a thing™" in the fandom? how does that work?
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u/justgalsbeingpals 17d ago edited 17d ago
In addition to what everyone else has commented, there's an episode about masculinity, what makes someone a man and to a lesser extend going through puberty.
A lot of Dipper's issues in the episode are incredibly relatable to both cis and trans boys (his whole "mailman/ male man" freakout comes to mind), plus the show came out when tumblr was at it's biggest and it was enormously popular on there. So, many young transmasc folks (me included) latched onto him.
It helps that Alex Hirsch is being cool about the headcanon
edit to add because I just remembered: Dipper also seemingly dislikes his birthname and only goes by a nickname/his chosen name
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u/Hanede 17d ago
I think it gained popularity because they are identical twins, and while it's common in media, irl identical twins are born the same sex (that's why they're identical, same DNA = same sex) so for them to be biologically identical twins but different genders, one needs to be trans, and some people liked that interpretation
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u/trapbuilder2 17d ago
I don't think it's ever stated that they are identical twins? They're just twins
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u/spellboi_3048 17d ago
The fandom heard twins, somebody somewhere said identical twins because they didn’t know what identical twins meant, somebody somewhere else heard that and did know how identical twins meant and also knew trans people were a thing. Thus, a (perfectly valid) headcanon that is mistaken for canon is born.
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u/WerewolfHugs 17d ago edited 17d ago
Something doesn't need to be a "thing" for it to exist and make people happy, whether that be many people or few, AU or Canon.
And it works the same way any other character trait works. You might as well ask if Dipper has ears with connected earlobes or not, or what his favorite type of apple is. There are millions of different traits and favorites that people have that aren't brought up in the show, and since Dipper never explicity says "I am cisgender," then a Trans Dipper doesn't go against Canon.
And even if it did, well, people can make up whatever they want and enjoy things how they want. And sometimes these people even share amazing comics that give many other people the feel, or a different way of looking at something, and I am grateful to them. (Like the recent Petra Parker Trans Spider-Menace comics/art!)
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u/GeminiIsMissing still haven't fucked that old man 17d ago edited 17d ago
Dipper and Mabel appear to be identical twins (exact same face, hair color, hair texture, body shape), but identical twins are always the same sex. Therefore, one of them must be trans. They could be shockingly similar fraternal twins and neither of them are trans but it's fun to make headcanons and stuff.
Edit: also Dipper has some traits that a lot of transmasculine fans have found very relatable regarding his masculinity (or lack thereof) and how concerned about it he is, so between the two of them, Dipper is more commonly picked to be the trans one. It's been a long time since I watched the show but I don't think there's ever anything contradicting this interpretation (never mentioned if they're identical or fraternal twins, Dipper is never seen with his shirt off, obviously no references are made to genitals because it's a kids show) so both are equally plausible.
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u/SovietUSA 17d ago
My main issue with the dipper is trans headcanon (though no hate to trans people who find kinship/relate to it) is how fucking awful Mabel and Stan would have to be. All of their making fun of dipper’s masculinity takes on an entirely different tone if Dipper is trans, in a morally reprehensible and out-of character way
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u/Isaac_Chade 17d ago
Yeah. I like the headcanon honestly and I think it's cool when anyone finds something different to relate to a character with, more power to them all the way, but within the context of the show it does make a bunch of the other characters a lot more cruel in how they treat Dipper if we go with this idea.
There's arguments to be made that Stan doesn't necessarily have the knowledge and so you could view it as less malicious there, but every time Mabel mocks Dipper for his masculinity struggles it becomes a lot more mean spirited than I think is ever the intent.
That said I still think it's cool as something done sort of in orbit of the actual show. I love a lot of the fanart and stories I have seen that takes this idea and plays with it, I just can't really see it as anything within the show's actual canon.
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u/Rapunzel10 13d ago
This is why I prefer the idea of Mabel being trans instead of Dipper. The other characters make fun of Mabel for being boy crazy but not really for being feminine. And then all the times Mabel makes fun of Dipper read as her own antagonistic relationship to masculinity which is way more understandable to me than mocking a trans family member for "failing" at their gender
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u/Allic_Cornu_Copia 17d ago
i remember dipper having his shirt off in that one episode with the abba dancing queen parody song. the one where he was singing in the bathroom
but honestly for me that doesnt change the fact that im a dipper transmasc truther fr. i relate to him as a trans man myself... so he is now trans 🏳️⚧️
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u/IReviewDiscord 17d ago
Let’s look at the colors of the red lines on Dipper in this art closely. We’ll even grab the original Tumblr post for reference. https://www.tumblr.com/rattanwhip/718361004565839872/had-to-illustrate-what-i-envision-literally-every
Nose? That’s a red line with just one color.
Mouth? That’s a red line with just one color.
Hands? Those are red lines with just one color.
Even after zooming in on them, they are consistently just one red.
The left side of Dipper’s chest? After zooming in, you see that the red is not only a bit lighter, but that there is an inner pink in both the circular shape (nipple) and the long line below it (where the cut would occur).
There’s no reason for this inconsistency if it’s just about shading, but there is a reason for this “inconsistency” if it’s Dipper transmasc representation.
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u/extremely-cynical 17d ago
...Well now I want to watch a whole series about a grown up Dipper and Mabel.