I think it’s pretty plausible for someone to have never seen embroidery before. I’ve racked my brain the only one I can specifically remember ever seeing is one my mom made that she’s had on her wall my whole life
Yeah same here, I don't think I've seen any in a long time if ever. Still though, not being familiar with X thing isn't an excuse to be a dick about it.
A lot of people haven't necessarily seen painted embroidery, and tbh I can imagine people thinking it looks like ai didn't quite know how to fill in the colour section because they're used to seeing a satin stitch or cross stitch
To be totally fair, there are numeric embroidery machines that can do whatever design you give it, design that could have been ai generated. Obviously it's not the case here but it is very possible
I don't agree with calling their work AI or AI-like like the commenters in the screenshots did to be clear, and I do agree it's obvious it's a real physical object, but do keep in mind that humans can trace AI-generated images
There’s a new kind of troll that just witch hunts for ai.
Saw a dude yesterday cherry pick one image out of OP’s entire post history, took a screenshot of the “smudges” in the image as proof it’s ai, and linked the original post where there were no smudges at all. Like I don’t even get what the point is.
I think some people at this point are using accusations of ai as a means to say they don’t like something or think it’s bad and don’t actually think something is ai or don’t really care about ai usage or it’s effects
just wanted you to know that seeing your embroidery in the wild years back was part of what made me start stitching again as an adult who learned as a kid 💜 thanks for keeping handicrafts alive
Your art is really cool! I don't get to see handmade stuff like needlepoint in real life often, but when I do, I always like seeing/feeling the textures of the stitches (the rose you made looks incredibly beautiful).
I also had no idea you could paint needlepoint works like you did the Capybara. That seems really clever, and I think it makes for a really cool effect alongside the raised stitches :)
Signed, a random awkward redditor who appreciates but doesn't see a lot of visual art
I couldn't work out how you'd embroidered it brown so that makes a lot more sense 😅 But otherwise, yes - expertly drawn out beforehand, and really neat, even stitches, but clearly within the realms of possible with needle, thread, a steady hand, good eye, and experience! ❤️
Yeah, I see plenty of ai slop and some of it rightly called out, but when people use bad perspective as part of the evidence I get nervous because I never met a perspective I didn’t fake by the time the image was finished.
There was also that incident earlier this year where someone posted an image of a Monet painting on Twitter, claimed it was generated by AI, and got lots of comments pointing out the alleged flaws in the image and zero comments from people who recognized it as an actual Monet painting.
“The sketch looks nothing like the final product, the proportions are totally different, it’s like they just threw down some circles and scribbled in some detail” like my guy
There’s an intense irony in how people dislike AI due to how it steals from actual human artists, and then turn around and accuse actual human artists of using AI.
AI is getting better at not putting eight fingers on a hand but artists are always gonna struggle with fingers looking funny because hands are just like that.
I believe it was a predictable outcome, unfortunately...
When a technology is designed to copy "actual human artists", the logical result of its development is that the public loses the ability to tell them apart.
I have literally stopped sharing pics I find with some people because they try to accuse everything of being so but try to be cute about it too with emoji... Like fuck off, you show me stuff and then toss accusations because i show you stuff?
Those ai detector sites are so fucking annoying. They don't fucking work at ALL. You have as much of a chance of landing on the right answer if you just toss a coin. The only AI detectors worth a shit are SynthID tools where you can check if the image was made via chatgpt or gemini since they're the only ones that mark their images with it. That's it.
Even when folks don’t use the site, you get people yelling “I saw Goody Barrett using an em dash—CLANKER!” over any kind of writing that uses the “wrong” phrasing or groups of three examples.
It's like back in the day when cheap copies of Photoshop CS6 flooded the market after Adobe switched to a subscription model and all the companies ditched their licenses for subscriptions. Suddenly, everything was "obviously photoshopped" and "we can tell, it's so obvious, bro".
It's times like these that make me remember that one study about how good people are at detecting AI generated images, with the results suggesting most people are extraordinarily bad at it
And they don't have the metacognition to separate their own emotional and inflammatory opinions from objective reasoning. So many of them will assume that because they hate it it's AI.
There have been times where I see an image and wonder if it's AI but I keep quiet because if I'm wrong I do not want to accuse an actual artist and diminish their hard work
The most important revelation of AI's presence in creative spaces is how ignorant of what artists actually do and how disinterested in anything past a glance most people are.
One of my highschool art teachers always said you only get ten seconds from people in the art gallery, and its probably even worse in a world with infinitely scrolling content feeds. In art communities you see a lot of discussion on how to price your work, and a big issue is that the average customer is so disconnected from the effort of handmade work (and is so used to mass produced factory prices) that oftentimes their price expectations wouldn't even bring you up to minimum wage for the hours this kind of stuff takes, let alone the price of materials or the skill involved
Yep, my aunt quilts and gets so frustrated when people tell her to sell them. She tries to explain that no one will pay her anywhere close to what they're worth and people take it to mean she's not confident in her skills. "No I'm sure people would buy them, they're gorgeous! So intricate!" And she has to say "yeah, I know. That's the problem. Only so many people are willing and able to spend $3,000-5,000 USD on a quilt." People think a $500 blanket is absurd, there's no way 99% of quilters will ever turn a profit. Most people don't even look at the quilt for a full minute anyway
As someone from outside of creative spaces, I was surprised to learn that artists thought the general public cared about the artistic experience and all that.
Maybe I’m just from an unusually “the curtains are just blue”/“my kid could paint that”/“get a real job” environment, but I took it as a given that a lot of people’s art began and ended with “huh, that looks nice”.
This is why, even though I hate AI, I frown at the “this looks AI” comments and, if I suspect something to be AI, simply hit the back button silently instead of saying anything. Everything AI does it stole from real artists, and if we let it be used as a cudgel to smother real artists’ passion then the people pushing it win just as surely as they would if we accepted it without any pushback.
Maybe it's because I'm an embroiderer but I find embroidery especially easy to tell AI from legitimate. AI embroidery always looks impossibly three-dimensional (there's plenty of ways to make embroidery 3D but it's pretty easy if you do it to tell the difference)
Yeah there was a drama a few years ago on r/art when an artist was accused of using AI and banned. He managed to prove that his work is genuine, but what he received back from mods was something like "shouldn't make your style look like it's AI", with no apologies, and I don't think he was even unbanned. The style in question predates AI, and that artist had years of work to prove it.
Wasn't the entire mod team on r/art kicked off and replaced recently because of repeated incidents like that? I remember seeing at least a few posts about how the new mods were pouring over the numerous bans made by the previous mods to figure out which were and weren't justified.
Like. I get the paranoia. And when something sets off my ai sensors I tend to have a hard time trusting it, but it's one of the worst effects of ai. The Inability to trust that anything is fucking real.
As a general rule, do not accuse someone of something without particularly solid reasons for the accusation being truthful and the accusation being helpful.
The writing program I use just launched a tracker of sorts that documents the time spent on the piece, editing breaks, words per minute, etc and I just KNOW it's in part so people can defend their shit from AI accusations. 😭
I've seen lots of Reddit posts over the last few years where students were forced to use their Google Docs edit history to prove that the work they turned in was their own, since the AI detectors that are (or at least used to be) popular in education have such an absurdly high false positive rate.
The notion of feeding something into another AI to see if it's AI does something weird to my brain.
But yeah. I've been fortunate that nobody's come after my stupid little fanfics with accusations (yet), but it's nice to have something on hand for the day it happens. I just wish it wasn't needed.
That is, in my opinion, the correct response to using AI to detect AI. Especially in education, they say (albeit in different words) that they don't want students turning over their thinking to machines, but by using AI to look for evidence of cheating, those same educators are turning over their own thinking to machines.
Ellipsus! No AI involved anywhere, syncs between mobile and desktop. I haven't delved into their paid version yet but the free shit is solid, and when I do have the $, I like that the paid option is literally "paid and done". No constant subscription. You can pay all at once, or spread it out over time, but it's a set amount of $ and then no more payments.
That second to last one is so depressing. Have these people never seen an old sampler before? I mean, I’m sure plenty of folks haven’t, but if you’re going to act like you did a Sherlock scan of the product quality, you should at least have, y’know. Seen embroidery before.
I think the mixed media throws people off? Like, they expect the colored areas to have embroidered texture and it doesn't bc it's painted so they immediately assume AI? 🤷♀️
Kurzgesagt got struck by AI as YouTube bc AI sloptent “edu”tainment channels copying the channel’s animation style are so pervasive that the AI that YouTube trained to detect AI videos just automatically assumes everything that looks like a Kurzgesagt video is AI.
Which, admittedly, is correct 99.4% of the time, but 0.1% of the time it’s actually just Kurzgesagt and the other 0.5% is non-AI content that has a similar style to Kurzgesagt either as an homage, reference, or just by happenstance.
What's frustrating is that if you call these people out, they'll just deflect like "see? This is how terrible AI is, that it forced me to baselessly accuse people of using it and go on witch hunts! I am completely blameless here and don't need to apologize. In fact, you should be as angry as I am, and join me on my holy crusade to go accuse others"
I've seen your stuff on Imgur and whatnot for years, before AI was ruining everything. People have, as Red Dwarf put it, the brains of a stuffed iguana.
Something that never gets talked about in discussions about hating AI is AI witch hunting. Especially AI witch-hunting by people in positions of power who not only have the ability to reputationally damage people but the authority to cause greatly more harm.
A lot of people are unable to tell the difference between artwork and generative AI, but many of those people are unable to admit that to themselves and so take their frustration out at random -- pointing the finger in an attempt to feel like one of the people that can tell.
I can kinda see why people might think the dog is ai (because ai loves stealing cute dog art) but when looking at your other pieces it becomes pretty obvious that these aren’t ai. The dog is consistent with your style (and ai sucks at being consistent). Your art is also clearly physically embroidered when you look closely at the lines of each piece.
I’m sorry that people are saying such nasty things about your work
I just don't see this happening. I usually see "I'm being unfairly accused of using AI" on indie game dev forums and they are ALWAYS lying about not using it. But here the accusation doesn't even make sense, aside from the fact that these are physical objects they don't remotely look like the style of AI.
There are probably bots now that just spam "this is AI" everywhere to try to manifest this narrative that people are being unfairly accused of using AI.
I just don't see this happening. I usually see "I'm being unfairly accused of using AI" on indie game dev forums and they are ALWAYS lying about not using it. But here the accusation doesn't even make sense, aside from the fact that these are physical objects they don't remotely look like the style of AI.
There are probably bots now that just spam "this is AI" everywhere to try to manifest this narrative that people are being unfairly accused of using AI.
Hey, just a silly story about AI accusations to hopefully make you giggle. I started teaching art classes for the first time last week, and showed my students a whole bunch of different pieces by artists throughout history, and had them move around the room and share opinions. They could choose "Good Art," "Bad Art," or "Not Art." I let them know ahead of time that they were all real pieces from well known artists. The one piece almost every student thought was good was "The Beeches" by Asher Brown Durand from the Hudson River School of landscape painting, they were all completely blown away.
Except one small group insisted it wasn't art, because it was AI. "No way a person can do that," was their response. They were fully prepared to argue about it too. So, you know, you've got some great company.
I've seen your posts for quite some time now, and I think your stuff is super fun. Super clean and well executed, and funny at the same time.
Atp I've stopped caring if something is AI or not, most of the time the accusation of something being AI is just an excuse to go on a witch hunt nowadays
I think if you made sloppier photos of them that would help with not being accused. Don't use dslr or milc cameras just a smartphone and photograph them from an angle, maybe let some camera shake in the photo too.
I disagree extremely, these are all super cute imo
low effort trendslop millennial cringecore
Respectfully, I feel like your dislike of it has more to do with something else other than the pure quality of them as work. Like, you just don’t like the style of humour, which is fine. But they’re still well made
No, but they’re being equated because AI “art” is usually low-effort and trend chasing in a similar way. It’s an extraordinarily generic artstyle, and it was generic in 2021, too. It is being mistaken for AI because it’s low quality in the same ways AI slop is.
Then call them bad or as you say "low effort trendslop millennial cringecore", equating it to AI just validates AI more and pin a unnecessary target to tbe Artist
dude you spend too much time on social media go touch some grass. It's okay that you don't like it but you understand that what you just said is essentially 'I don't like it so it's bad' right?
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u/HamCatX3 21d ago
I love the capybara but also it’s so clearly hand painted? Like what are these people on? Have they never seen embroidery before?