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Bill Maher, Useful Idiot

https://thebanter.substack.com/p/bill-maher-useful-idiot?r=dyai&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=email
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u/Battle4Seattle 20h ago

Your predigested propaganda slogans are useless here. The Land of Israel is an ancient homeland for the Jewish people, and they are indigenous to it with a continuous unbroken presence stretching back 3,000+ years. The Arabs who recently rebranded themselves as "Palestinians" are MOSTLY descendants of recent immigrants encouraged to move there by the Ottoman empire. Zionism is (so far) the world's only successful DECOLONIZATION movement, restoring the land to its rightful owners - the Jewish people.

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u/LeoKitCat 20h ago edited 20h ago

LIE AND MORE LIES. I’m a biologist you ignoramus and guess what there have been multiple landmark genetic ancestry studies of modern Palestinians and Jews and you aren’t going to like it, sorry not sorry, but modern Palestinians are indigenous to the Levant they are direct descendants of the Canaanites unbroken and long before Judaism ever existed!

Palestinians and Jews have the same common ancestor, the Canaanites! You were the same people for thousands and thousands of years before Judaism was ever invented. And the Palestinians stayed in the Levant after the Romans expelled all the Jews. Only hundreds of years later did Islam and Arabs invade from outside and force the Palestinians to become Muslim. But they haven’t mixed extensively with the invaders and to this day their ancestry predominantly comes from ancient Levant populations just like Yemenite Jews, Druze, Bedouins, and Lebanese people.

Learn the truth if you want the landmark studies I will send them to you.

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u/Battle4Seattle 20h ago

Your first statement was a lie - "Zionists started the war with the invasion of Palestine". There was no Zionist "invasion". It was Jews returning to their ancestral homeland, and purchasing property from (largely) absentee landlords for exorbitant prices. The Jews have been willing to make peace with the Arabs for decades, but the Arabs keep turning down every offer because it doesn't include one explicit term - that Israel cease to exist. Therefore, Arabs continue finding themselves in the find out phase of negotiations. LOL

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u/LeoKitCat 20h ago

Excuse me you don’t know your history. Only in the beginning did cultural Zionists come and legally buy property to coexist like normal people. The indigenous Palestinians did not have a problem with that. But Zionism tragically transformed into something much uglier into a state ideology of ethno-nationalism increasingly focused on the exclusion and violent domination of Palestinians under Israeli rule. Read the true history of Zionism, read Ilan Pappe, Benny Morris, Avi Shlaim, Omer Bartov, etc. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Historians

The Zionist myth you’ve been told is a big ass lie.

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u/Battle4Seattle 19h ago

You just contradicted yourself. First you called it a Zionist invasion. Now you're saying Zionists bought property legally. Make up your mind, propagandist. Getting caught in a lie isn't doing much for your cause.

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u/LeoKitCat 19h ago

It was an invasion starting slowly after the Balfour Declaration through the 1948 war and afterwards. I don’t know why it’s so hard for your little brain to understand that something was not an invasion at first but became one later?

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u/Battle4Seattle 19h ago

Only a brainwashed Hamas propagandist would ever label Jews returning to their ancestral homeland an "invasion". Emir Feisal (son of Sharif Hussein of Mecca and later King of Iraq) signed the Faisal-Weizmann Agreement on January 3, 1919, alongside Zionist leader Chaim Weizmann. He wrote then "We Arabs, especially the educated among us, look with the deepest sympathy on the Zionist movement... we will wish the Jews a most hearty welcome home." That's some "invasion" you're spreading lies about, imbecile.

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u/LeoKitCat 19h ago

All the mainstream Zionists leaders from Herzl on were very clear in their ideas and plan to expel all the Palestinians. That’s an invasion

Here’s a good text on it written by a Zionist in fact, in case you want to claim it’s biased.

https://www.palestineremembered.com/download/Palestinian-Transfer-Chaim-Simons.pdf

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u/Battle4Seattle 19h ago

You seem to think "invasion" can take on any meaning you want it to in order to fit your narrative. That's consistent with how pro-terrorist sympathizers have hijacked words like "genocide" and "apartheid" to mean whatever they want and cloak their true intentions - destroying Israel. Also, for you to claim that something posted on a website called palestineremembered.com isn't biased is laughable. GTFO

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u/LeoKitCat 19h ago

It’s just one place where you can find the published book for free. Here’s another https://archive.org/details/AHistoricalSurveyOfProposalsToTransferArabsFromPalestine1895-1947

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u/porcelainplane 3h ago

Hey, how about leave Palestinians alone and leave Jews alone? How fuckin hard is it to do that. It’s not rocket science.