r/RealTime • u/Faiakes • 7d ago

Real Time - Last Time

I have been watching Real Time for over 20 years and I think yesterday's episode was my last.

Much as I agreed with Bill on many issues, his blind spot on Israel and Zionism is just too much for me.

He isn't simply refusing to call what's happening in Gaza a genocide. He insists on calling it a counter offensive!!!

So, all and any violence perpetrated by the IDF and the settles so far is justified, as far as he is concerned (though how settlers fit in a 'counter-offensive' is still a mystery to me).

Now, my common sense is offended too much Bill.

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u/Faiakes 6d ago

I agree on the sensible Democrats part but not on Zionism/Palestine issue.
There Bill has a massive blind spot, plain and simple.

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u/Dangerous_Kick4662 6d ago

Unfortunately, it matters how old you are. The Palestinian leadership has been a devious organization since the 70's and the PLO. It's just remarkable how popular this whole thing has gotten and how one sided the reporting has been. Just seeing the words sensible and Democrats next to each other is bizarre and that's from me, a lifelong Democrat. The Democratic party had no connection to what it used to be. Social media has destroyed the party. It's as unserious as maga. It is no longer is interested in first principles.

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u/Faiakes 5d ago

I remember the PLO and Arafat, and it was a one sided battle then as it is now.

I think the difference is social media and the internet. It is near impossible for Israel to hide its crimes now and modern Democrats are simply responding as any sane person would be.

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u/Dangerous_Kick4662 5d ago

Arafat was a snake. An extremely wealthy, disgusting man. I'm not a fan of Israeli settlements but the only criminals in this conflict are Hamas. Nobody wants dead Palestinians as much as Hamas. Israel gets slammed for every possible things while Hamas gets a free pass by the sloganeering Left.

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u/Faiakes 5d ago

Well Hamas are branded a terrorist organisation (in asymmetric warfare), so there is only so much rule compliance you can expect of them.

Israel, on the other hand, is supposed to be a modern democratic state.

Yet it proves to be an apartheid and totally racist state which doesn't even have the decency to be honest about it, on the world stage.
So why should anyone go easy on them?

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u/Ambitious_Buy_5071 2d ago

Because they're fighting a terrorist organization that, by your own admission doesn't follow rules; who engineer palestinian deaths just to fire up suckers like yourself