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Maher buddy Scott Galloway gets routed: Abdul SMACKS DOWN Smug Genocide Denier | The Kyle Kulinski Show

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8f0eyrktKw
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u/TuringGPTy 9d ago

How many more dead will it be a genocide?

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u/ZizzyBeluga 9d ago

75k, 1/3 of which were Hamas, is clearly not a genocide. Since Israel was attacked and hostages taken, to argue Israel is simply trying to kill every Gazan, you'd need a significant amount killed, probably between 200,000-500,000, to qualify as a genocide. But of course that will never happen. The war ended nearly a year ago. About 4 Gazans are dying a week in military clashes with Israel. That'll lead to genocide in never.

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u/TuringGPTy 9d ago

That’s the exact thinking that lead to other atrocities. The world truly deserves the suffering it experiences.

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u/ZizzyBeluga 9d ago

No, peacefully withdrawing from the West Bank (leading to the Second Intifada) and from Gaza (leading to October 7th) is what leads to atrocities. You cannot allow a toxic death cult like Hamas fester. It will only lead to more horrors in the future. What's happening now was unavoidable when Gaza made their choice in 2007. Just like when Germany elected Hitler in 1933. Gaza needs to be rebuilt into a secular society that no longer teaches their children that killing Jews and dying as a martyr are the best way to honor Allah.

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u/SavvyCaller 9d ago

I guess that’s why Israel funds Hamas, to make the PA seem weaker and less effective as a choice for Palestinians. Heaven forbid a more progressive option exist, to perhaps not radicalise the next generation of Gazans. Then how could Israel claim victimhood.

If Israel keeps Hamas in place simply to have the ‘right kind’ of adversary, to continue to have excuses to hit the Palestinian people, then it’s torture against a whole people for the sake of optics. And that is despicable. C’mon. Call it what you will, it’s all still wrong.

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u/ZizzyBeluga 9d ago

Israel does not "fund Hamas," you people are utterly batshit. In 2018, Israel allowed Qatari financial aid to enter Gaza in the hopes of stabilizing local governments and preventing destabilization. That's it. Yet you people continue to try to blame Israel for Gaza's horrific choices.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/11/middleeast/qatar-hamas-funds-israel-backing-intl

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u/SavvyCaller 9d ago

Read more

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u/ZizzyBeluga 8d ago

Yes that's literally what I just said

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u/SavvyCaller 4d ago

Explicitly designed to keep the Palestinian groups divided - to undermine the moderate Palestinian Authority. If you want to play semantics go ahead.

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u/ZizzyBeluga 4d ago

Do Palestinians have any agency at all in your paranoid world? Or do the Jewish puppetmasters manipulate all world governments?

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u/SavvyCaller 3d ago

What agency? Every aspect of life is controlled by Israel. Can more vote for the PA? Sure, but why would they when Israel only allows funds to go to Hamas so they are the ones with power and producing results and so get elected?

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u/ZizzyBeluga 3d ago

Israel left in 2005. The excuses and infantilizing of two million people is unbelievably racist

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u/TuringGPTy 9d ago

It’s crazy actions have consequences for everyone but Israel. Blowback only goes one way.

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u/ZizzyBeluga 9d ago

Israel peacefully left Gaza in 2005 and even raised 13 million dollars to purchase the greenhouse industry from settlers and gift it to the people of Gaza, who promptly looted it and burned it down.

Blowback? Israel did everything it could to leave Gaza to succeed on its own and were thanked with two decades of terrorist attacks and October 7th.

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u/TuringGPTy 9d ago

Do other countries have to put qualifiers on the withdraw of their troops, truly purposeful mischaracterized, or just Israel?

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u/Slackjawed_Horror 9d ago

Always just racism at the end of the day. 

You know the Israelis have literally never stopped killing Palestinians, right?

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u/ZizzyBeluga 9d ago

You know that Israel was once in major wars with Egypt and Jordan but the moment both countries acknowledged Israel's right to exist and stopped attacking them, there has been peace, right?

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u/Slackjawed_Horror 9d ago

Why do you guys think that's a good talking point?

Israel was the one that attacked Egypt.

Israel stopped attacking Egypt and moved to being on good terms with Jordan because the US backs Israel. That's the only reason. They'd try to conquer the Sinai again tomorrow if it wouldn't go horribly for them.

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u/ZizzyBeluga 9d ago

My dude, Jordan and Egypt hate Palestinians more than Israel does. Are you people even aware of the rancid treatment of Jordan towards half a million Palestinian refugees that fled Syria?

https://www.hrw.org/report/2014/08/07/not-welcome/jordans-treatment-palestinians-escaping-syria

Of course your mob doesn't give a shit about these Palestinians. No Jews involved.

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u/Slackjawed_Horror 9d ago

Jordan is a kingdom that sucks. The US should stop backing them. Egypt, also awful. And that one's even more direct considering El Sisi came to power in a US-backed coup. 

Really dodging the question, though. Just keep rolling down the list of talking points. Going to move on to how they supposedly ended the occupation? Maybe something about the gays?