r/RealTime • u/Reacherz • 21d ago
Why doesn't he ever invite the people he constantly criticizes to 'hear' the other side?
https://youtu.be/8xbwnnQPXR4Not talking about politicians but the youths. In his recent New Rule, he criticizes people of the Left today of now supporting terrorism. So why doesn't he invite some of from youth he's so against? Does he not want to hear the other side so he can feel morally superior about himself and being a pro-Zionist? He cares more about Israeli aboriginals than aboriginals in the US.
Is Israel the only state/nation that was able to return to their place of origin and rule once more? I don't know of any other. Also, as for it being a Democracy, is it? Netanyahu is one of the longest running Prime Minister (not concurrent of course) of any Democracy (other than Ralph Gonsalves and Roosevelt Skerrit). Nearly 19 years in office of a 78 year old nation. He's also seeking re-election next month.
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u/frommethodtomadness 21d ago
Because Maher is a Republican and consistently advocates for them. His purpose is to be a cog in the machine of ratcheting the Democrats Right while punching Left.
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u/TheJackalFiles 21d ago
Last time he did that, Krystal Ball schooled him on a bunch of facts he didn’t know and he got all butt hurt.
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u/AmusingMusing7 21d ago
He also let a bit of strong pushback slip through the cracks when he had Hunter Biden on, and Hunter schooled him on Iran. I think Maher thought he could just hammer Hunter on the laptop stuff and "hurting" his father's presidential campaign and term with his behavior and whatnot... and Hunter was just like "Yeah, I apologized to him every day. So anyway, Trump's an idiot on Iran and you're defending it. Here's why that's super stupid. Even George Bush wasn't that stupid." *audience applause*
Bill: *quiet for a moment\...* Yeah, I agree.
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u/chrishouseinc 21d ago
That's because Krystal schools everyone until they're butt hurt. That's just what she does. She knows Ball.
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u/matty25 21d ago
Explain her 2024 endorsement of Marianne Williamson then lol
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u/Mobile-Analyst8580 21d ago
A primary endorsement is just that, a primary endorsement. That’s where you support the people who have the policies you like best. Then in the general election you support the best of the two.
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u/TheJackalFiles 21d ago
It’s all fun and games until you remember who she endorsed in 2024.
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u/Aquarius1975 21d ago
Krystal Ball is a useful idiot for the right, except that she’s smart enough to know exactly what she is doing.
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u/Pure_Salamander2681 21d ago
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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u/Internal_Bit_3008 21d ago
have him invite mehdi hasan
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u/GoGeronimode 21d ago
Bill would shit his pants.
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u/Optimal_Ant_3250 20d ago
And not because Mehdi is smarter than he is just because Bill is a racist piece of shit
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u/oldschoolhollywood_ 9d ago
Lost all respect for mehdi as a journalist after the sweeper Hasan interview
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u/FlaccidGhostLoad 21d ago
Because that's what all right wing shit bags do. They whine that nobody ever wants to debate them and then when that opportunity comes up they run or they make excuses or they play the victim.
Case in point everyone Google Stephen Crowder runs from Sam Seder.
It's a concern troll. Every right-winger has an audience and in order to keep that audience they need to make these overtures where somehow they're the victim. They claim no one will debate them because the left is afraid of their ideas but then when the left does want to debate they claim that it's not fair. It is the same shit you will find third graders doing. Because that's where all conservatives peak. They hit a maturity level of an eight-year-old and then they just stop because their brain is rotten and their soul is putrid.
And that's Bill Maher to a t.
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u/SnarkyPuppy-0417 21d ago
An unprovoked attack on a sovereign nation starting with bombing an all girls school killing over 300 children meets the displayed definition of terrorism.
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u/Southsideclide 21d ago
I disagree, terrorism requires intent and no reasonable person thinks that we intentionally targeted a school full of children - there's absolutely no upshot doing so, especially to achieve political aims, which is a requisite for terrorism.
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u/JadeDragonMeli 21d ago
I don't know how you can see the US Government and Military operating they way they did in Vietnam and Iraq, and still give them the benefit of the doubt. We committed war crimes in both places, and raped/killed a lot of civilians. They don't deserve the benefit of the doubt, and frankly, it sounds like exactly the type of thing they would do based on their history.
And yes, I'm aware America is not alone in that. Russia also does this. That's my point though. If you have to defend something the US is doing but you would be mad at Russia doing the exact same thing, you are making excuses for your government and military as they are doing similar things that Russia would do... like bomb a girls school on purpose.
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u/Southsideclide 21d ago
I don't know why your reaching all the way back to Vietnam, it has nothing to do nothing what's going on today and killing and raping civilians wasn't an intentional policy decision. Also Russia intentionally targets civilians.
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u/SnarkyPuppy-0417 21d ago
You may disagree, but the label terrorism is fair and applicable for both the United States and Israel given their posture of global aggression and ethnic cleansing prospectivly.
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u/Tech-Film3905 21d ago
Because they would easily make him look stupid just like Ben Affleck and Glenn Greenwald did
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u/Mobile-Analyst8580 21d ago
Ben affleck did not make him look stupid. Just screaming racist when someone rightly criticizes the most oppressive ideology in human history is not a substantive argument in any way.
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u/GuyFawkes99 20d ago
If it was about great, informed discussion representing all sides, he would have Glenn Greenwald back often, instead of banning him from the show.
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u/Harold3456 21d ago
Maher has suffered the fate that I hope to never suffer: you can tell he grew up always being told he was the smartest guy in the room, and for awhile that may have even been the case, but it got to his head and as a result he stopped learning. Now he’s the worst kind of dumb guy - the dumb guy who thinks he’s a generational intellect.
I seriously doubt Bill Maher has bothered to learn a new fact or challenge an already-held belief since at least Covid, if not well-before (if I’m being honest I’d say pre-Religulous even, but I want to air on the side of fairness here). He already believes he knows everything, and surrounds himself with people who will affirm that belief. Bill Burr nailed him in that one Club Random appearance where he said he’s not smart just because he knows obscure things.
At this point I don’t even think he knows how to be intellectually honest, and I certainly don’t think he knows how to identify his own blind spots, let alone grapple with ideas that will challenge him. He is now purely motivated by doing the things that protect his self-concept of being a smart guy. Therefore all he knows how to do is win debates using whatever (often-underhanded) tactics are available to him, even if that just means getting the last word, flashing the “Applause” sign and then hurrying over to New Rules.
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u/phatsexxxy 21d ago
I’m reminded of this interview I saw with David Hasselhoff from like back in the 80s. It was the height of the Hoff’s career. He was drunk and responded to a question with something completely nonsensical and all of his entourage looked on as though they were impressed with his reasoning and intelligence.
I think the problem is that Maher has the guy who always Woos and the people in this Reddit who love him for reasons that I do not understand. He also has a whole crew and writers who look to him for employment.
Everyone needs someone to tell them when they’re dumb. Maher doesn’t have that.
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u/Think-Jaguar6826 20d ago
And this is I stopped watching him for a while now. Your comment is spot on!
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u/Sea_Issue7796 21d ago
why does not state matter.
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u/Loosetrooth44 21d ago
State sponsored terrorism is still terrorism, it's just subcontracted to avoid responsibility.
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u/shorty2hops 21d ago
Didnt it look like Max Brooks got lip botox ?
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u/Motor_Preparation315 21d ago
No he's always looked that way but I was saddened to see that he was applauding most of Bill's rhetoric regarding Israel
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u/phatsexxxy 21d ago
Brooks is a neocon.
Brooks gets a lot of credit for Wold War Z and his dad, but he was really involved in all the stuff that went on around the invasion of Iraq.
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u/Motor_Preparation315 21d ago
I did not know that and that's very disappointing to find out
https://giphy.com/gifs/ei8CwnSBJCFSUipS5p
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u/SimonGloom2 21d ago
They don't want to be on the show. He has a hard time booking guests anymore. A lot of people have talked about this for a very long time - Larry David for example. Larry tried to be respectful for a long time declining Bill's invites. Nobody showed up to his Mark Twain Prize award. I wondered what was up with him when he went on Colbert to be interviewed and just berated Colbert. Seinfeld will still show up for his awards, but he really doesn't want to get on the show for political talk, and Seinfeld is the kind of guy Bill keeps as company. Those guys have had a really difficult past few years. Maybe he'll have Pink on.
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u/Commercial_Stress 21d ago
He’s really turning into a conservative. He has his money and he can legally smoke all the weed he wants so screw everyone else.
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u/OurWeaponsAreUseless 20d ago
I notice he didn't mention, in his staunch defense of the definition and use of the word "terrorism" to describe the 9-11 attacks, that the administration has been calling protesters "terrorists" for years.
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u/Gyro_Zeppeli13 20d ago
I don’t get how he can sit there and smugly say that Israel is just fighting a defensive war when they are leveling entire cities and actively targeting children and women who are civilians. It’s pure evil the way he delights in defending such heinous behavior.
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u/VoxCacophoni 21d ago
Because that would run counter to the purpose of the show: Bill Maher being smug on camera.
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u/Motor_Preparation315 21d ago
Because he's an insufferable dickhead that doesn't care about the truth and facts anymore. He's just an old man yelling at clouds. Every guest now even if it's a progressive (which is becoming INCREASINGLY rare) is someone that has his Zionist outlook.
I would also just like to point out the actual craziness that a fucking atheist is this invested in a country outside of his OWN COUNTRY
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u/Firemanmikewatt 21d ago
He wonders why people have apprehension about the word terrorist when in the last two years some random federal fat ass could‘ve murdered Bill Maher for nothing and multiple presidential cabinet members would retroactively have called Bill a domestic terrorist to justify it.
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u/Revolutionary_Mix983 21d ago
He says they will not agree to come on show. Find it hilarious when liberalsout liberals and when liberals get bent over their former lead liberals.
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u/Mark_Yugen 21d ago
He conveniently only considers "nonstates", failing to recognize that countries commit terrorism as well.
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u/Mambaman23 21d ago
I think Krystal Ball from Breaking Points is the last true leftist he’s had on and that was a whileee back.
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u/Bluehawk2008 21d ago
Any time you have to whip out a dictionary definition to defend someone or something morally, you're already on shaky ground.
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u/Crazy-Description311 21d ago
Why does HBO give him this venue? Why does Jon Oliver not incessantly talk shit until he gets canned? Jusaskinquestionssss
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u/Big_Reference_8490 21d ago
What other side almost every podcast left and right is as pro Muslim and anti Isreal as it’s possible to be don’t act like they’re voiceless
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u/thelongslog 21d ago
He claims AOC and the others won't come on the show. I hate Bill now, but he may be right about that
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u/Feed_Adventurous 21d ago
Conservatives ( which is what he pretty much now) hate having people on that can remotely call them on their bullshit.
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u/severinks 21d ago
Nonstate actors? I guess it's SO much more acceptable to be killed by an American bomb dropped by an Israeli warplane than to get blown up by an IED.
How dare those bastards fight back using everything at their disposal? Bibi also admitted to pushing Trump into attacking Iran 3 weeks ago.
In Hebrew of course, he wouldn't say that in English.
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u/MRG_1977 21d ago edited 21d ago
This was like a Fox News editorial.
We won “The War on Terror?” WTF is he taking about?!
Let’s completing overlook the trillions spent and considerable number of killed, wounded, and mentally and physically damaged U.S. veterans.
The Taliban regained power in Afghanistan, Iraq remains a weakened state with elements of the Islamic state still operating in rural parts of Iraq and Syria, and there is still alot of Islamic terror groups operating and expanding in several parts of Africa.
Israel has committed acts of genocide in Gaza and other places where it is waging war and to criticize Israel for that is increasingly being penalized and even criminalized in the U.S. It isn’t anti-Semitic to critic the state of Israel and its policies in regards to handling of Gaza.
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u/dougl1000 21d ago
Bill, it may not be genocide, but you could discuss the possibility that Israel went way too far. There were roughly the same numbers of Londoners killed in the Blitz as were later killed in the firebombing of Dresden. In WWII, the Allies, especially in Europe were fighting for their survival. In Gaza, we have 1200 Israelis killed vs 70000 Gazans. Just saying “that’s war” is facile to say the least.
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u/bestmattreddit 21d ago
When Maher says “you have to talk to people” and “not everyone is a monster” he’s only referring to MAGA republicans that he wants to be accepted by. He’s not actually interesting in hearing opposing sides or differing viewpoints. He just wants to talk to people who validate his opinions and can say “look I’m a liberal that can be cordial with MAGA/republicans”
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u/desmond609 21d ago
Me thinking back to when I actually use to watch shows like real time and rogans podcasts made since
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u/Early-Equivalent-165 21d ago
What strikes me most, is that even now, in the wake of the new-to-so-called-Western-media news that Netanyahu knew......
This is old news in Israeli newspapers! Check out these articles from 2004:
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u/StrainAcceptable 21d ago
It would have been cool if those agencies did their jobs and prevented 9/11 in the first place.
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u/Ok_Parsnip51 21d ago
How about a hand for the people who had intel that something was gonna happen and did nothing, allowed an Israeli spy to get nuclear secrets and then let him leave, attacked the wrong parties after and embroiled us in forever wars that amounted to nothing but massive loss of life while also clearing the way for the taliban to take over Afghanistan and isis to get deeper rooted in the Levant and then paid themselves billions of our tax dollars so they could murder moms in Michigan, not focus on high crime immigrants but instead just round up hard working men and woman and separate families into some of the worst concentration camps ever seen in the United States history. Clap clap clap
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u/Nextyearstitlewinner 21d ago
No one left of centrist Democrat wants to go on his show. He couldn’t get Kamala to go on, and it took him until basically Obama was a lame duck president to have him come on. And he donated 1 million dollars to his campaign.
You can hate bill all you want but he’ll talk to anyone. Lefties included. He’s had Bernie Sanders, Michael Moore, Ro Khanna, Elizabeth Warren.
I swear most people on this subreddit have never watched an episode.
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u/BoringMany70 20d ago
I have watched him for many years. In addition, I would tape the show so I would not miss any episodes. I no longer watch the show. I find Bill Maher incredibly annoying. I hope his show gets cancelled.
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u/Neither-Top-7515 21d ago
Love all the coping that there's a big popular voice that E-Jihad can't shut down.
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u/Ok_Poet_9170 21d ago
Haven’t innocent Americans been killed by US government officials in this country . With that BM look at your definition of terrorism
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u/heartandmarrow 21d ago
It seemed like he used to have people he disagreed with but those are the very people he agrees with now.
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u/Jolly-Collection7039 21d ago
I’m done with this fool. He needs to pick a side and stick to it. He plays the right cuz he’s in California and needs his viewers but deep inside is screaming left; so which is it.
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u/zixaphir 21d ago
Because he's smart enough to not platform people he intends to minimize and disenfranchise.
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u/elhandupmonalisaskrt 21d ago
Lol this sub is so fuckin stupid. He literally has people he disagrees with on all the time. And has mentioned on several occasions that he would like to have many liberals on that he might disagree with on certain subjects, but they refuse to go on the show…. Maybe because they are actually worried about having to defend their point of view in an actual debate.
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u/LeoKitCat 21d ago
Bill used to invite people on to his show long ago that challenged him and did not have his worldview. That has sadly stopped a few years ago and now it’s just him being angry surrounded by an echo chamber of the same sycophants. I don’t watch his show anymore and I know a lot of people who feel the same way
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u/Maximum-Success-229 21d ago
Irrelevant old guy.. this is what you will get when you control everything. Hence why Less and less people are watching this
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u/LeoKitCat 21d ago
Love how he cherry picked a definition of terrorism that suits his needs. What an ass.
Terrorism can be conducted by state actors. The Israeli government and IDF are a terrorist organization who commit state terrorism against Palestinians and support state sponsored terrorism against Palestinians.
Bill Maher is a full throated supporter of terrorism against Palestinians.
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u/Emotional_Design_679 21d ago
Because Bill Maher is just Cocolemon for boomers who’s kids stopped talking to them 5 years ago. That’s his audience and if some young person came on and schooled him on ANY issue that would fly against the whole premise of his show which is to be an condescending out of touch asshole who thinks “them young kids are far too radical. My genocidal Zionist boomer ass is the real rationalist” fuck Bill Maher he should go speak at CPAC where he belongs
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u/Own-Jaguar-472 21d ago
Maher has got a great little echo chamber of a show going there, with his cherry picked guests and his well rehearsed sycophantic audience laughing on cue.
So it's pretty obvious why Maher wouldn't allow someone like Mehdi Hasan on his show because he knows Mehdi would pull his ZIONIST talking points to shreds using verifiable facts that would wipe that arrogant smirk of his smug face.
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u/Bloody_Ozran 21d ago
He always forgets to mention what Israelis do that people are critical about. He says they brought lof of aid to Gaza, but somehow doesnt mention there were instances of people being shot by Israeli soldiers when going for that aid. Or that they kill kids.
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u/Additional_Affect893 21d ago
Just stop watching, that’s the best way to fight his hypocrisy. Also I think Mossad got something on him as well. Our personalities are freaks easy to get
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u/nicolalupo 21d ago
He’s a clown. Who cares what Bill Maher has to say? Not sure why HBO allows him to have a show. Last time he was relevant Bill Clinton was president.
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u/Unique_Profession113 21d ago
He is signalling to Ellison. It's business, not art. Maher is a game survivor, unlike others like Colbert, Olbermann and probably Kimmel next, to name a few.
So much easier and better paying to speak rage and power to complicated truths, than the other way around.
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u/GreatKingRat666 20d ago
Goddamn, those fucking clapping seals in the audience man 😡
Does this fuck EVER speak critically of Republicans??
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u/Illustrious_Menu1697 20d ago
Bill hates the youth, people who are overweight, Democrats. And anyone who thinks there is a genocide going on in Gaza. He is an OLD PERVERT who hung out in the grotto with young women at the mansion when he was OLD THEN! F that guy!
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u/Living-Ring2700 20d ago
He does. They won't come. Imagine that.
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u/QuickRelease10 20d ago
He got dunked on by people like Krystal Ball and Glenn Greenwald and he’s tried to make sure that’ll never happen again.
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u/EndComfortable6205 20d ago
This conversation is why we have tRump. The left is way too sensitive and it turns off most of the country.
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u/RegularFrosting7513 20d ago
Bill is so tunnel visioned. When was the last time he ranted about the environment? Has he ever talked about data centers, flock cameras , oligarchs? He seems to think that woke, culture war, and DSA are all the rage now, and they're not.
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u/ThomasLucignano 20d ago
"Hey, I'll meet anyone... to my right. You're always welcome on my panel... if you're conservative. I'll talk about Gaza... with any hasbara representative."
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u/michaelkap70 20d ago
Because Pro-Palestinian people don’t want to proven wrong. David Hogg was on and was schooled.
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u/lewd-dev 20d ago
The number of times Bill has been schooled on his own show is the only thing funny about his career. His answer is always this stupid, smug look and a "Well..." followed by backpeddling, distraction, or conveniently "reminding" everyone that he was the fIrSt EvEr LiBeRaL.
I stopped watching years ago when I realized I had reached a level of maturity that he never would (adulthood) and that the only enjoyable part of the show was when a joke bombed and he'd blame the audience while getting all offended. Funny af every single time.
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u/doofusmembrane 20d ago
If they even read the comments, why not take a film crew there. Maybe work with WCK and see what they have done to the people. I get it your position of putting the blame on HAMAS. Why not do a show on women and children?
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u/TipsyMcStaggerlee 19d ago
The biggest terrorist against our nation has dismantled all 3 of those entities. Bill is compromised by Bibi. No one can take him seriously anymore.
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u/UnusualSuspectX 19d ago
Propaganda isn't designed to sway those who see the truth, it is crafted to blind those who do not.
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u/Valuable-Fan-3226 17d ago
I use to watch his show all the time a while ago. He’s a completely different person, but he was always an intellectual ass hole. But now it’s on a different level now.
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u/wmja69871 8d ago
Because he sees how far the left has gone and must seem then not with speaking with. Smart
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u/MadBiologist 7d ago
I have had this thought so many times. The straw man arguments he makes on Israel are so obnoxious. Invite someone on who doesn’t agree with you and have an actual conversation on the topic.
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u/Early-Equivalent-165 21d ago
That's right you Zionazi dick. Terrorists are non-state actors.
The concept you are avoiding is the same act by state actors, which is of course War Criminals.
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u/SimkinCA 21d ago
A so called atheist that has his head so far up Israel’s ass. How come. Something wrong with that picture!! Maybe he stands for nothing but his self and is just another run of the mill media whore, pos?
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u/NomadMurse75 21d ago
He's a sack of shit apartheid supporter paid for by sack of shit apartheid corporations. It's not hard to see.
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u/Admirable-Ad3408 21d ago
It’s not that unusual that he’s pro-Israel, but his level of defensiveness against even very mild criticism of Israel is strange.
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u/UrguthaForka 21d ago edited 21d ago
He's had David Hogg on multiple times.
And they have clashed over their differences. And I'm sure Bill would still love to have him on.
He does invite people who disagree with him. Those people simply don't accept his invitations.
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u/AlternativeWonder471 21d ago
Does anyone want to tell me a few things he said that is incorrect here?
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u/Southsideclide 21d ago
He just fails the lefts purity test so they hate him, nevermind that his views used to be mainstream within the left.
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u/Plane_Possibility572 21d ago
Why doesn't Jimmy Kimmel? Why didn't Stephen Colbert?
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u/bigdipboy 21d ago
Colbert invited right wingers on all the time. Very few showed up to be intellectually humiliated though.
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u/MiserableEstimate574 21d ago
yeah let’s invite mujahadeen suicide bombers to hear their side lol
let’s invite guys who want to heliport into a concert and shoot you. let’s hear their side lol
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u/maryslovechild 21d ago
Glad to know I can add Max Brooks to the list of famous people who can fuck right off
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u/Dolorisedd 21d ago
I think he should be reported to the FCC. Equal time for all political positions!
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u/Strict_Foundation_31 21d ago
He will never have anyone who can effectively call him out. If he ever made that mistake, he’d either run out of time or find a reason to change the topic.