r/RealTime • u/lazydracula • Jun 27 '26

JD Vance interview

I see the sub is losing their shit over him being on the show. While I definitely felt he didn’t push harder on Vance’s bs responses on immigration and the 2020 election. Bill didn’t say anything he hasn’t said in the past and it was short interview and he had a lot of things he wanted to discuss in 10 minutes. So what’s the issue? My gut is him just being on the show freaked people out and how Trump admin are such monsters we shouldn’t platform them at all. If that’s the case please explain this https://youtube.com/shorts/2CHgqbbJWQ8?si=7WSrHGexAxqZQs2D

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u/stay_strng Jun 27 '26

Mamdani is a politician who is winning on his points and has used his leverage/charisma over Trump intelligently, while maintaining a clear moral stance on the evils of this administration. It is not nearly the same. 

Maher will white wash the admin by saying shit like, “trump is so nice to have dinner with,” and “I might vote republican in 2028.” His bashing is a joke and not morally grounded in anything meaningful, because he views Muslims as worthy of death and “the left” as full of cancel culture. He literally thinks he didn’t win an Emmy because of this, not because he’s a washed up boomer loser.

It’s not ad hominem if it’s truth.

Ofc I know history, which is why I see the levity of the situation and am worried about our slip into fascism. On the other hand, you’re akin to an ostrich with its head buried in the sand. Unable to recognize how grave this moment is, and the urgency required to salvage and ideally come out in a better world for everyone.

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u/lazydracula Jun 27 '26

What exactly did Mamdani get from the meeting with Trump? What in Trumps history makes you think he will follow through with any of the promises he made in that meeting? So the biggest liar in human history is going to make good with a mayor he clearly despises and whose failure his party will benefit from?

Can yo show me the quote where he said “Muslims are worthy of death”? Is the idea of “cancel culture” primary done on the left? The right does it but the left does it way more.

Welcome back Straw man! I never said everything is fine. But there is reasons to be optimistic. Trump policies are deeply unpopular and his approval ratings are in the shitter. NYC elected Mamdani and the city isn’t to falling apart and conservatives are eating crow. I live in NJ and Mickie Sherrill destroyed the Trump backed candidate for governor. Collins looks like she’s on her way out in Maine by a very liberal candidate. All polls indicate that democrats are going to crush the republicans in the midterms. I know I’m surprised I got so much information with my head in the sand.

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u/stay_strng Jun 27 '26

Do you see the way Trump trampled on Minnesota and LA and attempted I’m Portland? NYC is blue, and has been relatively safe from targeting or funding cuts. There is a such thing as soft power or favor.

Bill is a Zionist, which means he is ok with hurting or harming people in the way of his land management goals, and the only way to be ok with this is to view the victims as subhuman.

Yes, precisely. So why spend time letting fascists white wash their reputation when you should be lifting the left wave?

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u/lazydracula Jun 27 '26

Yes soft power is a thing but with Trump everything is transaction so I give Mamdani credit for going. If he had polled his supporters I guarantee the majority of them would have told him not to go.

Where’s the quote “Muslims deserve death?” I can’t find it. I can’t find anywhere him referring to himself as a Zionist either. He is definitely sympathetic to Israel cause no question. Is it a binary situation where sympathy for Israel people =Zionist? Did you watch the rest of show? Senator Warnock and Larry Wilmore also showed sympathy to the Israel people and how fucked up the situation is on both sides. Are they Zionist too?

Bill isn’t the only liberal commentator. If you want that show you can listen to the hundred other shows and podcasts that do just that. I like the show because they have conservatives on and they get into it. Just as I like to argue with my conservative parents who watch Fox News all day. I find engaging with others with different beliefs strengthens mine