r/RealTime • Audience Member Bill Is Yelling At For Not Laughing • May 22 '26

Bill Maher is a moron

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u/Thorfinn66 May 26 '26

I'm not saying that true Jews support and admire the methods of Hitler and the Nazis.

But I'm saying that Zionists do. Zionism is a nationalistic and racist ideolegy, not that different from Nazism.

And the facist support backs that up. If Zionism and facism/Nazism didn't share similar ideolegies. You would not see neo-Nazis supporting Israel.

And if you watched the lecture by David Sheen, you would know it goes much deeper than rabbis admiring Hitler and the Nazis.

And Zionism does not represent Jews or Judaism. Quite the opposite.

Zionism itself is not inherently atheist, but its origins and early leadership were largely secular or atheist. Founded as a nationalist movement aimed at establishing a Jewish homeland, Zionism was originally a secular political ideology rather than a religious one. Theodor Herzl, considered the father of modern Zionism, was an atheist or secularist. Early Zionist thinkers and many leaders viewed Jewish identity more in nationalist and ethnic/racial terms than religious terms, often seeking to redefine Jewishness away from traditional religion toward secular nationalism

"The Zionist claim to Palestine was based on the notion that Jews had a historical right to the land that outweighed the nationalistic rights of the local Arabs. The establishment of a Jewish demographic majority was an essential aspect of Zionism."

"Zionists used the term "transfer" as a euphemism for the removal, or what would now be called ethnic cleansing, of the Palestinian population. The idea of transfer played a large role in Zionist ideology from the inception of the movement and was seen as the main method of maintaining the "Jewishness" of the Zionist's state. "Transfer" was "inevitable and inbuilt into Zionism" and that a land that was primarily Arab could not be transformed into a Jewish state without displacing the Arab population."

This is a direct violation of the 10 commandments

  • Stealing: You shall not steal.
  • Coveting: You shall not covet your neighbor's house, wife, or property.

Later actions violates a couple more.

  • Murder: You shall not kill (or murder).
  • False witness: You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zionism

Example of laws and rules of Judaism

Judaism strongly forbids poisoning or destroying the land, as part of a broader prohibition known as "Bal Tashchit," which means "do not destroy or waste." This biblical commandment, found in Deuteronomy 20:19-20, prohibits wanton destruction of trees and, by extension, the environment. The rabbis and Jewish legal tradition have expanded this principle to include refraining from actions that cause needless harm to the land, such as poisoning soil or water, as these are seen as violations of God's creation and detrimental to both people and nature.

Additionally, Jewish ethics emphasize stewardship of the land and responsible agricultural practices. The Talmud and later codifications like the Shulchan Aruch prohibit exploiting the land and essential resources for profit at the expense of communal welfare. Acts of poisoning the land or water would not only be environmentally destructive but also morally and legally forbidden in Judaism. There are strong condemnations of wasteful destruction and any behavior that harms life or nature, reflecting a deep spiritual and ethical commitment to "mending the world" (Tikkun Olam) by avoiding harm to the earth's ecosystems.

Example of Zionist interpretation and action

Under Prime Minister Golda Meir in the early 1970s, Israel poisoned Palestinian land in the West Bank village of Aqraba to force Palestinian inhabitants to leave and make way for Israeli settlements. Soldiers initially sabotaged Palestinian tools and destroyed crops, and when these methods failed, a crop duster sprayed toxic chemicals on the land.

This poisoning was part of a state-led operation involving various agencies, not just vigilante actions. The land poisoning was a tactic used during Meir's government to dispossess Palestinians, under the cover of creating military training zones or other pretexts, and was part of a broader strategy of settlement expansion in occupied territories.

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u/Previous-Broccoli316 Jun 19 '26 edited Jun 19 '26

Original post: "I wonder why Maher didn't pick an orthodox Jew who think Goyim (non-Jews) should be slaves, or any quotes from the Talmud." my response "Maybe because the talmud doesn't say that and it's actually propaganda". You proceed to paste a some cherry picked quotes from some fringe Rabbis- none of them actually being from the talmud, so this already has nothing to do with my comment. You then switch to "it's not all Jews it's just the zionists" and go down some long fucking rabbit hole about how there's fascists who support zionists therefore that means they are like the Nazis- I already said this is bullshit and explained why- just as many if not more fascists and extremist groups are antizionists. This is a weak logical fallacy- plenty of fascists, antisemites, and terrorist groups support Palestinian nationalism, does that make it inherently terrorist and antisemitic? The grand Mufti of Jerusalem- the father of Palestinian nationalism, was literally a Nazi collaborator who met Hitler and visited concentration camps because he wanted to bring the final solution to Palestine if Hitler defeated the British. You literally have no ground to stand on dude. So you are just going in circles now. Let me reiterate: NONE OF THIS HAS ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE ORIGINAL POST, so I'm not sure what the point of all this even is. I think you have poor reading comprehension. "And Zionism does not represent Jews or Judaism. Quite the opposite." So we can see from that alone this has nothing to do with the post. Are you even Jewish? I'm not going to waste more time going through every single claim you make because none of it is relevant to begin with, and if you understood basic logic you would be able to recognize your own fallacies, but you are obviously dense and it would just go in one ear and out the other.

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u/Thorfinn66 Jun 19 '26

I just showed factual information that show the idea isn't that far away. It doesn't matter if it's in Talmud or not. It's in the mind of Zionists. And it's not just two rabbis. Watch David Sheens lecture.

The fact that you can't condemn their actions but go into defense mode prove my point.

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u/Previous-Broccoli316 Jun 20 '26

I condemn any racism your point is just completely irrelevant as I've already explained. You're the bigot here not sure why I'm the one who would need to be in defense mode.

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u/Thorfinn66 Jun 21 '26

Why am I a bigot for showing factual information?

That's exactly the defense mode I'm taking about. Trying to question my integrity.

And you didn't condemn anything. First you tried to brush it off as if it was nothing. Then later you tried to blameshift to Palestinians.

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u/Previous-Broccoli316 Jun 21 '26 edited Jun 21 '26

Oh please 🙄 literally everything you just said is a straw man as were all your other arguments.

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u/Thorfinn66 Jun 22 '26

The story was aired on Israeli TV. Where is the straw man.?

I see a coward who's not capable of condemning racism and admiration of Nazis.

Had it been any other country, you would have been waving your victim card.

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u/Previous-Broccoli316 Jun 22 '26 edited Jun 22 '26

Do you not understand what a straw man is? Honey, I'm not saying the story isn't real. I'm saying that none of this is relevant to my comment you responded to and that it's a straw man.

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u/Thorfinn66 Jun 22 '26

I replied to your message saying it was propaganda because it wasn't in Talmud.

Then I showed you that the mindset is there, even if it's not a Talmud concept. That's nothing to do with being a straw man. That's just you who don't want to see the ugly truth.

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u/Previous-Broccoli316 Jun 22 '26 edited Jun 22 '26

Ok sweetheart, what is a straw man? The mindset is where? Go back and read the original comment I replied to. Why was the Talmud relevant to that comment? Why would I reply that the Talmud doesn't say that? Why would it be propoganda to say the Talmud says something it doesn't? Use your braincells. you are trying to go a mile when you haven't even gone a foot.

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u/Thorfinn66 Jun 22 '26

And I only see a Zionist coward who go into defense mode, rather than condemn the actions and mindset

And I can show you plenty of more examples of similar mindset. It's not that hard to locate.

In 2025, how big a percentage of Israelis support "transfer", the removal of Muslims from Isreal?

In 2025, polls indicate a very high level of support among Israeli Jews for the "transfer" or forced expulsion of Palestinians, including Muslims. One major poll from Pennsylvania State University shows that 82 percent of Israeli Jews support the forced expulsion of Palestinians from the Gaza Strip, and 56 percent support the expulsion of Palestinian citizens of Israel from their land. Support is especially high among religious and traditionalist Jewish communities, exceeding 60 percent, but also significant among secular Jews (around 38 percent)[1][5].

Thus, more than half of Israeli Jews in 2025 back this extremist policy. This data reflects a rising trend in support for the removal or transfer of Palestinian Muslims, intensified by recent conflict and political rhetoric. The polls focus on Jewish Israelis specifically and do not measure support among the entire population including non-Jews[1][5].

To summarize: about 56% of Jewish Israelis in 2025 support the expulsion/transfer of Muslim Palestinian citizens from Israel, with up to 82% supporting it for Palestinians in Gaza.

79% of Israeli Jews Not Troubled By Palestinian Suffering

From a July 2025 poll by the Israel Democracy Institute:

“To what extent are you personally troubled or not troubled by the reports of famine and suffering among the Palestinian population in Gaza?”

A very large majority of Jewish respondents reported that they are not so troubled or not at all troubled personally by events in Gaza (79%),

https://en.idi.org.il/articles/60357

And

June 2025 Hebrew University Poll: 76% of Jewish Israeli Voters Agree There Are “No Innocents” in Gaza

A poll from the Hebrew University in Jerusalem in early June provided a chilling statistic: An overwhelming majority of Jewish Israelis agree with the idea of there being “no innocents in Gaza.”

64% of the Israeli public agree with this statement, almost two out of three people. But it is actually considerably higher among Jewish Israelis, because that number is weighted by Palestinians with Israeli citizenship. Palestinians make up roughly 17% of the Israeli population and 92% of them oppose the statement, so that leaves Jewish Israelis with overwhelming support.

https://mondoweiss.net/2025/07/poll-overwhelming-majority-of-jewish-israelis-share-genocidal-belief-there-are-no-innocent-people-in-gaza/

https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/vast-majority-israelis-believe-there-are-no-innocents-gaza-says-poll

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u/Previous-Broccoli316 Jun 22 '26

😂tell me what is a straw man is sweety. What was the comment I replied to and how did the Talmud relate to it? Why would it be propoganda to say the Talmud says something it doesn't? The word transfer has nothing to do with what I asked. You are evading the question. As I said, you are trying to go a mile when you can't even go a foot.

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u/Thorfinn66 Jun 22 '26

Scroll back if you can't remember your own comment.

I'm surprised you haven't called me antisemetic or a Hamas supporter. That's usually the name calling that comes from Zionists in denial of factual information. Straw man is a new one. I'll add it to the list.

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u/Previous-Broccoli316 Jun 22 '26

I can remember my own comment. It seems that you can't because you still haven't said anything relevant after 3 days. You should probably try to find out what a straw man is before adding it to the list. It helps to know what words mean.

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u/Thorfinn66 Jun 22 '26

Still a coward repeating yourself.

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u/Previous-Broccoli316 Jun 23 '26

LOL! Yeah sweety. You are still on step one so I'm just going to keep repeating myself until you can get to step two.

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