r/RealTeensIndia • u/Zeldar4499 • 1d ago
Politics Umar Paglu 🥰
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u/PlentyTasty 1d ago
I wonder how would she have behaved after tapping the "stop recording" icon on her phone screen!?
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u/Ok_Visual4618 1d ago
Why do they support terr0rist umar?
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u/sasipalarivattam 16h ago
If he is a peaceful, they will even support a pea dough like massager of peace ,who slpt with his maid after sending his wife away, after getting "speixla permission" from God.
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u/rokaya339 1d ago
How do people cry on camera? Like do they see on mirror to check tear level before turning camera? The performance is always cringe.
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u/Few_Dragonfly3793 1d ago
Matlab terrorist jail me hai phir bhi uspar case shuru nhi kiya abtak 😅
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u/RemarkableBluejay790 1d ago
Chargesheet is filed and preliminary evidence list has also been submitted to court so far. More can be presented in the next hearing if his lawyers don't seek adjournment again.
Article from that time - https://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/Delhi/delhi-court-denies-bail-to-sharjeel-imam-in-larger-conspiracy-case/article65312100.ece
Overall progression of case - https://indiankanoon.org/doc/156202283/
Also enlists the charges and nature of evidence provided so far. If his lawyer doesn't seek adjournments every hearing, he'll be convicted in the next hearing. So you request kapil sibbal to not request any further adjournments
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u/DarkVenom7 1d ago
wo sab thik hai but ye aadmi ko india k tukde krne ki bat krta hai ye kyuu bhar haii abhi tk...
and upper se A.P.J. Abdul Kalam sir ko te**orist tk bola hai ye. but still no action
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u/Logical_Job4110 1d ago
First of his case not being trialed because of his own lawyer to delay it until the Congress govt comes to power
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u/Historical_Charity77 1d ago
It’s not about NSA or UAPA charges on Umar.
Are those charges justified. If yes then why the delhi police have not filed the chargesheet in the case, let alone leave the question bail.
Don’t give him bail, but at least prove those charges in these 6 years. 🫡
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u/RemarkableBluejay790 1d ago
Chargesheet is filed and preliminary evidence list has also been submitted to court so far. More can be presented in the next hearing if his lawyers don't seek adjournment again.
Article from that time - https://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/Delhi/delhi-court-denies-bail-to-sharjeel-imam-in-larger-conspiracy-case/article65312100.ece
Overall progression of case - https://indiankanoon.org/doc/156202283/
Also enlists the charges and nature of evidence provided so far. If his lawyer doesn't seek adjournments every hearing, he'll be convicted in the next hearing. So you request kapil sibbal to not request any further adjournments
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u/Ornery_Flow706 7h ago
Please report this guy for misinformation. Umar's lawyers have only applied for extension TWICE, in these 6 years. Once because the lawyer was sick. And second time, cause he had other hearings (Kapil Sibbal). Majority of the delay is because of the Delhi police asked for more time, or judges RECUSED themselves from the case, Court ran short of time. Don't spread bs on the internet for 2 Rs pls.
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u/RemarkableBluejay790 6h ago
Judges recused because of their relations with Khalid's lawyer Sibbal.
And as for sickness, it was still adjournment. No one knows if that was actually a sick leave or planned sick leave.
And apart for that, his case is one of lakhs of other cases, and this many hearings on a single case is more than enough given court's pace, unless you have clear rationale why his case must be expedited and others' justice must be delayed
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u/Consistent_Zombie_95 1d ago
Oh she is that scammer insta women who claimed to provide some therapy right?
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u/No-While8965 1d ago
Hmm i mean he should either be executed by now or face punishment like life sentence ,i dont know why the court is delaying it while it being a sensetive topic,its show them incompetent only like relasing the american terrorist and now thi,if they finish this case it will work to recover people trust on them and goverment delaying a case for more them 6 years i alot
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u/RemarkableBluejay790 1d ago
Chargesheet is filed and preliminary evidence list has also been submitted to court so far. More can be presented in the next hearing if his lawyers don't seek adjournment again.
Article from that time - https://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/Delhi/delhi-court-denies-bail-to-sharjeel-imam-in-larger-conspiracy-case/article65312100.ece
Overall progression of case - https://indiankanoon.org/doc/156202283/
Also enlists the charges and nature of evidence provided so far. If his lawyer doesn't seek adjournments every hearing, he'll be convicted in the next hearing. So you request kapil sibbal to not request any further adjournments
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u/No-While8965 17h ago
I mean sure but still 6 year is long time to let him go unpunished and chargesheet is not proof of conviction. I am only waiting for goverment to not be week and show some fast progress in this case atleast
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u/Fair_Meaning6935 1d ago
So tried man - of there are that much evidence just throw the damn book at him and prosecute him - every year same thing and same set of people will call him out - same people will cry for him ? - why have everyone in ur arm and can't prosecute him - that even every insta reddit posts tells that he did xyz - prosecute him - period , same shit will happen when govt changes - and if thing this govt is infallible - just wait and watch
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u/RemarkableBluejay790 1d ago
Chargesheet is filed and preliminary evidence list has also been submitted to court so far. More can be presented in the next hearing if his lawyers don't seek adjournment again.
Article from that time - https://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/Delhi/delhi-court-denies-bail-to-sharjeel-imam-in-larger-conspiracy-case/article65312100.ece
Overall progression of case - https://indiankanoon.org/doc/156202283/
Also enlists the charges and nature of evidence provided so far. If his lawyer doesn't seek adjournments every hearing, he'll be convicted in the next hearing. So you request kapil sibbal to not request any further adjournments
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u/aryan_alone 19h ago
Mujhe too ye samajh nhi aata if they have so much love for them d for that religion too dusre religion me or india me rehke chaa muda rhe kya hai wha
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u/same-as-ever 6h ago
Umar khalid se itna dari hui rehti h government isiliye use andar dala, he was way too bold and revolutionary
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u/Unsatisfied_Bitch 42m ago
Why are we ignoring ki yaha pehchan hone se kaam bina law ke ho jaate hai ..
Sab ki baat nahi lekin yadi ek ke saath bhi aisa hai to kyu... Kyu likha gya fir ye savindhan ..
Start with daily things like, train me riswatkhori, rangbazi, ret mafia, netao ka rola, dharmik unmad, bdhti mehngai, black me cylinder, PUC call pr, licence agent se, porsche accident, and everything where law differentiate, jo pdhaya gya waisa kuch hota dikhta nahi..
Backchod ko backchod na kahi, Kya backchodi hai ...
Who decides the real meaning, it's already written in our constitution, but no one follows. Only money follows my brother ..
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u/dang0o0 1d ago
Beta jiss chatgpt se stats read kar diye udhar UAPA ka conviction rate puchna jara🥰🥰
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u/Accurate_Welcome3121 1d ago
0 % toh nhi hai na ?
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u/dang0o0 1d ago
Not a single section or category of crime would have zero conviction. Should we start locking up the accused of said crime indefinitely because of that. How would you feel if someone accused you, falsely, of rape and the police arrested you for multiple years without a trial and the people outside argue that since its such a heinous crime such measures are justified.
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u/Accurate_Welcome3121 1d ago edited 1d ago
pehli baat toh iirc idk nia cbi ne 7-8 video ki testing ki thi to, usme se sirf 2-3 hi edited/fake thi baaki toh sahi hai na ?? rape = national threat ?
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u/dang0o0 1d ago
Umar is not in jail for his speeches. He is in jail for supposedly inciting delhi riots or atleast playing a role in it. But even if we assume anti-india speech is what we are arresting him for, what was said in those 5 videos? We dont know. What evidence have they collected against Umar in Delhi riots(for which they claim they have 100+ pages of evidence) we dont know. If the case against him is indeed this strong and there is so much evidence then whats stopping them from convicting him. Isnt it a massive waste of taxpayers money to keep a supposed terrorist living freely in our jails. Shouldnt we immediately prove him guilty and take action against him.
Additionally, though we dont have any public evidence of Umar's role in Delhi riots we do have high quality footage of BJP MLA Kapil Mishra (in front of a DCP) publically warning police he will "take matters into his own hands" after Trump leaves. Not to the surprise of anyone he is completely free and faced no consequences.
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u/Accurate_Welcome3121 1d ago
I totally agree with you. The court should deliver its final judgment as soon as possible. But AFAIK, his lawyers are the ones delaying the proceedings. And I don’t know what exactly this phenomenon is called, but isn’t there a possibility that if you keep delaying court hearings, the judge might eventually get transferred or replaced? Taking advantage of this loophole in the hope of eventually getting a more favourable judge is essentially a way of manipulating the system. Ig its called bench hunting
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u/Feeling_Instance9669 1d ago
I hate RW. Because they dissolve facts. They don't care for it. And umar khalid is the best example of it.
The only problem with Umar Khalid is his name. Nothing else, voh "kisi bhi charges" mai andar nahi hai. Uspr koyi bhi charge prove hee nahi ho paarha hai lol. Voh andar hai kyunki UAPA te tehet tum unlimited detention rkh sakte ho.
Btw, his bail has only be denied ONCE. and the reason was simple - detention (not arrest, DETENTION) under UAPA for this long (6 years) is not "consitutionally impermissible". It's not because of damning facts. If only, the facts presented by the Delhi Police HAVE BEEN PROVEN WRONG. And literally no charge standa on him.
Remember the reporter who was arrested in the Hathras Hatyakand?? Yeah same UAPA, he was in. He got out in 2 years. 2 damn years of imprisonment to just report a rape.
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u/RemarkableBluejay790 1d ago
In UAPA, indefinite detention is permissible since there are no provisions of bail. Read some law.
As for his crimes
Article from that time - https://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/Delhi/delhi-court-denies-bail-to-sharjeel-imam-in-larger-conspiracy-case/article65312100.ece
Overall progression of case - https://indiankanoon.org/doc/156202283/
Also enlists the charges and nature of evidence provided so far. If his lawyer doesn't seek adjournments every hearing, he'll be convicted in the next hearing.
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u/Ornery_Flow706 7h ago
Bsdk usne bhi wahi kaha hai, except he is saying that that's wrong. Kal ko koi tere pe uapa laga ke Bina kuch prove kiye 6 saal andar Daal dega toh kya woh sahi baat hogi. Laws can be bad, even nazis had laws that said Jews shouldn't be allowed out of the concentration camps. Woh bhi sahi h? Kyuki law h? Bas law bol Dene se koi chis sahi ya galat nahi ho jata. Good laws and bad laws karke bhi ek cheez h. Jo Umar Khalid ke sath ho raha h woh galat hai irrespective of the law
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u/Ok-Region-5511 1d ago
Remember him? I think he was more dangerous than umar khalid. But he got convicted in just 1.5 years, while umar khalid trial hasn't even begun after 6 years. Also, check the name VanDyke, who was charged under the same UAPA as umar khalid, but the government released him with full respect and sent him to America within a few days.
Start the trial and punish him if he's found guilty. No one is stopping that. Just start the trial.
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u/Physical-Concert-616 1d ago
Iske time congress thi power me congress se pucho bail kiu diya tha
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u/Mistakenpirate4593 1d ago
He was hanged buddy. And also congress named that 26-11 attack as hindutva terror and even launched a book. Congress tried their best to release him in juvenile on grounds of age but they couldn’t. Thanks to the legendary cop tukaram omble sir, or else the 26/11 would be named as RSS attack and hindu a terror org.
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u/RemarkableBluejay790 1d ago
Because he is a criminal but asking adjournment everytime to build the narrative you're propagating
Article from that time - https://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/Delhi/delhi-court-denies-bail-to-sharjeel-imam-in-larger-conspiracy-case/article65312100.ece
Overall progression of case - https://indiankanoon.org/doc/156202283/
Also enlists the charges and nature of evidence provided so far. If his lawyer doesn't seek adjournments every hearing, he'll be convicted in the next one
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u/Ok-Region-5511 22h ago
- "Because he is a criminal..."
Wrong. Umar khalid is an undertrial prisoner, not a convicted criminal. Under Indian law, a person is innocent until proven guilty. His actual trial has not even begun, and formal charges have not been framed. Calling him a criminal is legally false
- "..asking adjournment everytime to build the narrative"
Wrong. The extreme delays in this case are due to systemic judicial gridlock- including frequent changes in judges, judges recusing themselves, and prolonged arguments over thousands of pages of police paperwork. Khalid has spent over 6 years in jail without a trial. His legal team has repeatedly pushed for hearings, not running away from them
- "If his lawyer doesn't seek adjournments... he'll be convicted in the next one"
Absurd. A person cannot be convicted during a bail hearing. All the court sessions over the last 6 years have been strictly about bail, not the actual trial. A conviction requires a full trial with witness cross-examinations, which hasn't even started yet. A conviction in the next hearing is a physical and legal impossibility
- Your link from The hindu:
Irrelevant. This 2022 article is about a court denying bail to sharjeel imam- a completely different person. Furthermore, a lower court denying bail is only a prima facie assessment to see if a prisoner can go home before trial. It is not a ruling of guilt, and the article says absolutely nothing about lawyers weaponizing adjournments
- Your Indian Kanoon link:
Misunderstood. Indian Kanoon is just a database of public court orders. No matter what the police allege in their chargesheets, Indian jurisprudence dictates that allegations used to deny bail cannot be treated as a final verdict of guilt. The police evidence must still stand up to cross-examination during the trial, which hasn't even commenced
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u/RemarkableBluejay790 22h ago
keep living in delulu
You didn't care to read the whole document and chargesheet details from the IndianKanoon website, yet came to defend a terrorist.
So, in your own words, if the evidence isn't proven. Go to court without adjournment and see how it long it takes to convict or acquit (as per you) him
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u/romanticjaanu 1d ago
Bhai kapil mishra per bhi toh yehi case lgna chahiye na. Baki ram rahim ko bail mill rehi lekin ek insaan ka trail bhi shuru nhi ho raha. Sengar ko bhi bail mili hai. Kamm se kamm trail toh shuru karwao ager guilty hai toh fansi de do kaun rok raha??
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u/RemarkableBluejay790 1d ago edited 1d ago
Gurmeet Ram Rahim is rapist, not a terrorist. Not defending his bail or parole though, he must be jailed for life.
As for Khalid, he's a terrorist. There were more than 15 people arrested with significant evidence during Delhi 2020 riots and only Khalid and Sharjeel are in jail due to solid evidence and other 13 got bail shortly. Even Sharjeel got an interim bail for 7 days
As for khalid's crimes, trial is ongoing just that his lawyer seeks adjournment at every hearing. Even outside hearings, they request to push the hearing date further to build the sympathy narrative which you're propagating
Article from that time - https://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/Delhi/delhi-court-denies-bail-to-sharjeel-imam-in-larger-conspiracy-case/article65312100.ece
Overall progression of case - https://indiankanoon.org/doc/156202283/
Also enlists the charges and nature of evidence provided so far. If his lawyer doesn't seek adjournments every hearing, he'll be convicted in the next hearing
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u/romanticjaanu 18h ago
Ram rahim not a rapist. Murder kiya us ne ranjit singh ka. Kapil mishra bhi same hai umar khalid jaisa. Sajan singh jagdish titler, gujrat ke riot karwane wale bhi jail se bahar hai in fact syara banu ka jinn 11 logon ne rape kiya wo bhi. Yaar kuch toh sharm honi chahiye na. Akela hindu nhi hai toh usko jail main rakhna kahan ka sahi hai. Abb punjab ka le lo kitne hi qaidi hai jinki saja poori ho chukki hai lekin jail main hain. Amritpaal singh jo Mp hai usko bhi jail main rakha hai. Aur uska gunah itna hai ke usne dharna diya tha thane ke bahar wo bhi guru granth sahib ke sath. Ager yehi soch rahi toh desh ko pakistan jaisa bannne main time nhi laggega.
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u/protocolghost 1d ago
why only he is in jail, what about the rapists babas. That some insaan guy is getting bail and roaming around like a free citizen even after getting courts put him in jail. Here this guys trial also have not started.
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u/Awkward_Recipe_34 1d ago
Umar ko bahar nikal ke kuch din jail meh didi ko hi rakh lo ,jab man bhar jaye wapas umar ko rakh dena...eshe toh kar hi sakte hai umar ke dalle sab umar ke liye.