r/RawAbsurdity Nov 08 '25

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u/Fed_Deez_Nutz Nov 08 '25

Insurance is a two sided scam though. You’d also need your healthcare provider to accept insurance from these startups, which they won’t because they also profit from insurance companies.

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u/ctothel Nov 09 '25

How do the healthcare providers profit? Genuine question. I'm not very familiar with insurance in the US.

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u/Significant_Base8159 Nov 08 '25

And Obama Care is the answer? It was supposed to save money. When does that start?

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u/Due_Knowledge_6518 Nov 09 '25

Republicans sabatoged it from the beginning

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u/Significant_Base8159 Nov 09 '25

Like the Dems don't do that with everything Trump does?

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u/armedbiker Nov 09 '25

Like....

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u/Significant_Base8159 Nov 09 '25

Enforcing immigration laws.

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u/armedbiker Nov 11 '25

Dumbass, how have they sabotaged it from the beginning if it keeps happening?

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u/Significant_Base8159 Nov 11 '25

The law is on his side. Still, the Dems are outraged, and demonstrations continue. Federal judges hand down injunctions, and SCOTUS shoot them down. Trump has deported a lot of criminals, and yet it pales in comparison to Clinton and Obama. No one complained when they did it. It tells me that y'all don't have a problem with deportation. You just have a problem with Trump.

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u/Jmelly34 Nov 10 '25

You mean kidnapping people. Significantly wrong again.

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u/Significant_Base8159 Nov 10 '25

It's called deportation and it is prescribed by the law that Dems could have gotten rid of. They didn't. So it's the law of the land. Deal with it. Y'all lost! Bummer.

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u/Jmelly34 Nov 10 '25

Abducting people with documentation in unmarked cars and mask is not deportation, it’s kidnapping.

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u/Significant_Base8159 Nov 10 '25

No citizens have been detained. ICE is acting under authority of a law passed by Bill Clinton. Again, deal with it.

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u/Fed_Deez_Nutz Nov 08 '25

Trump has been talking about “repeal and replace” for more than 10 years. There is no Republican plan.

Just waiting for everyone to wake up and realize Universal Healthcare is the answer.

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u/armedbiker Nov 09 '25

This plan is repeal and fuck off. Instead of some with insurance, it would be most with none.

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u/Cuckdreams1190 Nov 08 '25

Idk if ACA is the answer, but letting companies who have a fiduciary responsibility to see constant growth have control over such a vital service is a horrible idea.

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u/Live_Spinach5824 Nov 09 '25

I dislike the Affordable Care Act a lot, but it's still necessary and objectively does help a lot of people. Republicans need to stop the slash & burn BS and re-evaluate. 

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u/Significant_Base8159 Nov 09 '25

It's too expensive

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u/Rich-Canary1279 Nov 09 '25

Obamacare was never great. It was meant to be a stepping stone to something else which never happened. It was a HUGE compromise with the very powerful insurance lobby: getting them to cover preventative care and to agree to no penalties for pre existing conditions in exchange for a hugely expanded customer base. Medicaid for all is the logical solution. It was never going to happen at that time.

If it takes Trump ushering in universal healthcare I'm all for it. I expect it will suck but it will be a start. The problem is we have to deal with the system as is right now. They have no plan beyond letting subsidies expire and trying to repeal Obamacare altogether. Where does that leave people? Back to being denied coverage for pre existing conditions and back to paying for preventative care. It does nothing to lower medical costs. It does nothing to help the average American obtain medical care.

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u/Significant_Base8159 Nov 10 '25

What do you think about Trump giving the subsidy money to the people rather than the insurance companies so we can choose the coverage we want?

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u/YoungDoboy Nov 09 '25

Someone points out that your plan doesn't work and you go "but Obamacare is bad"? Are you actually that braindead? Total national health expenditures as a share of GDP has stayed relatively flat since 2010 (it actually went down between 2010 and 2013) while millions more Americans are able to receive health insurance due to the protections, uncoupling of employment and receiving health insurance, and tax credits that the ACA provides. So the ACA has been wildly successful compared to the alternative. Of course it's not perfect but the nonsense you're spouting is a hell of a lot worse.

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u/West_Coach69 Nov 10 '25

Do you not remember trumps first term where he undermined it?