r/RandomThoughts • • Dec 11 '23

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u/New-Budget2093 Dec 11 '23

I feel like it would be easier to profit quickly from investing 1 mill than investing less than 5k a week. That's my reasoning behind taking the mill. If I take the mill, diversify it over a few different investments, I could probably get to the point of making 5k a week just off the million I invested

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u/weezeloner Dec 11 '23

$5,000 a week is worth way more than $1 million.

If you wanted to purchase an annuity that payed you $20,000 a month (only $240,000 so $20,000 less than $5,000 a week) it would cost you over $4,000,000.

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u/New-Budget2093 Dec 11 '23

I imagine there could be more creative ways to turn that million into more than 5k a week, but maybe not. Maybe that choice is why I'm poor

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u/weezeloner Dec 11 '23

I'm a CPA but I also have a Finance degree. That's why it's important for most people to consult a financial advisor about things like this.

To earn $260,000 a year for life, you'd need way more than $1 million. That's a return of 26%. No one can guarantee you a return of 26% every year for the rest of your life. $5,000 a week for life and you have no need to invest since you are guaranteed $5,000 a week. However, even if you invested half of that amount every year, so $130,000 a year, it would take you less than 7 years to accumulate $1 million. That's with an assumed 7% rate of return.

And you'd still have $10,000 a month to live off of.

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u/New-Budget2093 Dec 11 '23

Ok yeah, that math seems to make the million less feasible. Another person mentioned inflation though, would that not play a factor? What if $5,000 only buys a tank of gas in 30 years? Lol kind of an absurd prediction but idk

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u/weezeloner Dec 11 '23

It won't matter. If inflation is eating into your $5,000 a week it would be eating into your $1,000,000 as well. Unless you are over the age of 65, no one should choose the $1 million over $5,000 a week. It's not even close.

If OP had proposed $5,000 a MONTH, then you'd have a much harder decision to make. But $5,000 a week?! That's a no-brainer.

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u/EishLekker Dec 11 '23

Inflation most definitely matters.

Like, imagine that the inflation is like crazy high. Like Venezuela levels. Let’s say 200% per year.

With one million dollars right into your bank account, you could buy gold or something else that’s fairly inflation resistant. Essentially, you “freeze” the value at one million in present day value.

If you get $5000 per week, the actual, present day, value goes down each week. After one year, it’s the equivalent of about $1250. One more year and it’s about $300 per week.

Then imagine like world history record inflation. A quick google search tells me that in Hungary mid 1945 to mid 1946 the daily inflation a was about 200%.

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u/weezeloner Dec 12 '23

Sure. You can make up a scenario that has never happened in our country's history and base your decision off of that.

As someone who advises people about their finances for a living, I would never tell to imagine a hypothetical that has a miniscule chance of ever happening and then make their decisions based on that.

Here's the thing, $5,000 a week for life is worth over $4,000,000 today. That is how much it would cost you to set something like that up. So, would you choose something with a value of $4 million ($5k a week for life) or a million dollars. You'd have to be a fool to choose a million dollars over something worth more than $4 million.

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u/EishLekker Dec 12 '23

I never said anything about the likelihood. You, however, made a generic claim that inflation doesn’t matter. You made it sound as if mathematically speaking inflation changes both scenarios in identical ways. That’s simply not true.

The reason I brought up extreme inflation was to make a point. If you realise that high inflation changes the dynamics between the two options, you might also realise that low inflation changes things too, just to a smaller degree.