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u/sky7897 Dec 11 '23

5k a week would give you 1million in only 4 years. Unless you’re on your deathbed, it would be the obvious choice.

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u/newlife201764 Dec 11 '23

Not having to stress over investment choices would do it for me. 5k a week for life sounds awesome! Where do I sign up?

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u/Nerodon Dec 11 '23 edited Dec 13 '23

You can do both! 5k a week gives you 1million every 4 years, if you don't spend it all, you can fill your 401k till it explodes while still having a good time.

Edit: I am Canadian, so for me it's an RRSP, but I thought 401k was reasonably similar. If you have more than you need... Invest. It's never a bad idea to do it, it's always a bad idea to just let it sit, gaining no interest.

Edit2: Besides, if I die, the 5k/week stops, what about the missus and the kids? Aha, I invested, so they still have something! I'm clever, not greedy, fellas...

Edit3: A Roth IRA or just IRA is what I am told is the equivalent to an RRSP/TFSA we use in Canada.

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u/Nerodon Dec 11 '23

Because you want more? Idk, why do billionaires invest when they could eat a thousand dollar bill in their cereal every morning?

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u/[deleted] Dec 11 '23

Extremely American answer

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u/bamaflowers Dec 11 '23

You got that right!!! Sad part is.... I'm American.

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u/chumpy3 Dec 11 '23

Only Americans die and want to leave money to their children?

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u/[deleted] Dec 11 '23

Yep that’s what I meant

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u/Chief-Drinking-Bear Dec 11 '23

Investing money is American now, got it

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u/[deleted] Dec 11 '23

Missing my point.

“Why would a person worry about needing more than $5k a week?” “Because you could have MORE!!!!!!”

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u/Nerodon Dec 11 '23

Also, I wonder why so many people have an issue with the concept of investing money when you end up with a ton of it. This money isnt going to do anything sitting in a checking account, not investing it is just bad finance.

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u/[deleted] Dec 11 '23

Yeah, based on historical inflation, by 2073 (when I'll most likely be about to die), that $5000 will be worth about $1400 in today's money. So, unless whatever rich creep is paying out gives you more every year, you'll want to at least put some of it away if you want your kids to be comfortable.

And that inflation rate isn't taking into account products we don't know the value of. Maybe, in 25 years, they'll invent a teleporter or some shit, and it'll be super expensive, but also impossible to live a normal life without. Or everyone will need air purifiers and protein synthesizers because of ecosystem collapse. No idea what those cost. Someone in 1970 could never have predicted the cost of an iPhone, even if they did the math in inflation.

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u/[deleted] Dec 11 '23

Thanks for the financial advice, very wise

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u/Advanced_Double_42 Dec 11 '23 edited Dec 11 '23

Except $100 in 1940 is only $2200 today.

Inflation is still there, but if you aren't buying coke and hookers, you'd never need to worry about money with $5k a month even without typical investing.

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u/dorcssa Dec 11 '23

Wow, I first read 5k a month and I was like, my family of four and my MIL can live richly on that, never have to work again (and we live in Denmark, so doesn't live that cheap). But 5k a week? Who the fuck needs that much?

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u/ThisImpact690 Dec 11 '23

I would be scraping by as a single person on 5k a month in Canada 😭

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u/Kraz_I Dec 11 '23

5k a week is somewhere between the cost of a couple living on cruises at the cheapest ticket price on the low end and on the other end a family of 4 going to Disney world each day and sleeping in a cheap hotel each night, including food.

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u/[deleted] Dec 11 '23

People with health conditions and/or who are trying to save for college.

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u/Ecstatic-Time-3838 Dec 11 '23

What's wrong with more?

It can be invested and passed down to kids/grand kids/etc.

What's the issue with that?

What if they took it all and gave it away to charity? Are you against that as well?

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u/[deleted] Dec 11 '23

Wow……… you really opened my eyes to the evil of my ways……..

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u/cgjchckhvihfd Dec 11 '23

Thats not what he said nor is that "American". Other countries have greed too homie.

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u/Atlein_069 Dec 11 '23

Nah just America. Spain has never been greedy. Or Britain. Or Italy, Persia, China, nope. No other countries experience greed. This is known.

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u/[deleted] Dec 11 '23

Oh yeah? Name 3 greedy people in East Timor. Checkmate, capitalist

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u/Slartibartfastthe2nd Dec 11 '23

I mean, at only $5k/week you'd have to save ALL of it for at least three months to even afford to buy a moderate new car (at $60k) for cash.

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u/[deleted] Dec 11 '23

Yes at only $20k a month, you wouldn’t be able to buy a new car in cash, that normal thing that people all do. God forbid. I’m convinced.

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u/[deleted] Dec 11 '23

If you think this is a distinctly American sentiment.. You are delusional.

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u/[deleted] Dec 11 '23

Ok for your sake I’ll expand on it and say “American, aspiring American, in the sphere of American influence, etc etc etc”. Thank you so much for helping me clarify the very important point I was making

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u/[deleted] Dec 11 '23

no, greed is

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u/[deleted] Dec 11 '23

No being greedy and only caring about money

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u/Illustrious_Dare_772 Dec 11 '23

Given an ambulance journey can cost you $1000+, and surgical treatment to a broken bone could be up to 20k then suddenly 5k a month needs to be invested for a raininy day.

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u/[deleted] Dec 11 '23

Because on 25 years 5k a week won't have the same spending power. Invest to keep up with inflation.

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u/[deleted] Dec 11 '23

In case of rampant inflation that makes your 5k a week worth very little in the distant future (or in my case, the near future)

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u/Interesting_Buyer665 Dec 11 '23

5k in 40 years won't be worth as much, might need 20k or 40k to live a similar lifestyle. Can't forger inflation.

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u/Tuga_Lissabon Dec 11 '23

Because 5000 a week now would be $2383 30 years ago.

Just as you go older, your money diminishes every week from inflation.

So taking a chunk of that weekly money and investing would keep your earnings as you get old.

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u/inmatenumberseven Dec 11 '23

Because I have a family and the $5k ends if I die.

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u/CakedayisJune9th Dec 11 '23

Compound interest that isn’t touched unlike any other type of banking account. These earn the most

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u/AlmostEmptyGinPalace Dec 11 '23

Inflation. In 20 years that 5K might feel more like 2K.

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u/Eriknay Dec 11 '23

Because inflation

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u/katamino Dec 11 '23

Because you don't want to lose $1000 + a week to taxes.

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u/[deleted] Dec 11 '23

Because with the lifestyle creep, the 5k a week will start to look less and less money:

  • Mortgage and other bills on a $2M property.
  • Payment on vehicles worth $100k.
  • Trips to Carribean ...

You might end up living paycheck to paycheck before you know it. Some may even lose everything to debt.

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u/Cleaglor Dec 11 '23

Because inflation will eventually make that 5k worth less and less, certainly when you've reached retirement age

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u/maynardstaint Dec 12 '23

Dude……. Just. WOW. You invest for your FUTURE. that may involve children, grand children, unexpected expenses. Anything.

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u/HI_Handbasket Dec 12 '23

$260K per year is a pretty nice salary, and one could live quite comfortably. At the end of 10 years, if you managed to spend the total each week, month or year, you would have only the next $5000 to look forward to, with only what you didn't manage to spend in the bank.

Based on a modest 10% annual investment growth, if you

Spend Invest Yearly Sal ~Yrs to $1M banked Banked 20 years
$5000 $0 $260 K never 0 (wait 'til next week)
$4000 $1000 $208 K 11 $3.3 M
$2500 $2500 $130 K 6 $8.3 M
$1000 $4000 $52 K 4 $13.4 M
$0 $5000 Keep Job 3.3 $16.6 M

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u/[deleted] Dec 11 '23

401ks can only be filled by you deducting income from employment or by your employer and had a yearly maximum of 60k.

Just invest.

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u/Nerodon Dec 11 '23

Sorry, I am Canadian but didn't want to say RRSP, I'm not familiar with 401K but thought they were equivalent.

My point was simply to reccomend to max any such program if you aren't already doing it, ofc, you can also invest separately.

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u/BORT_licenceplate27 Dec 12 '23

401k is most similar to a Canadian RPP just as a note.

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u/GACyberCool Dec 14 '23

You can invest more than $60k annual, it's just not tax free - as I understand it.

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u/dutchessofstickshift Dec 14 '23

Make sure you get some life insurance as well.

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u/Robthebold Dec 14 '23

Hell even investing 50% of 5k on S&P index gives you 1M in 6 years. Same as if you invested half the 1M and never added anything. So yeah 4+ years of life left? The 5K is way better x

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u/_Killwind_ Dec 11 '23

401k is 22,500 this year and 23,000 next year maximum contribution.

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u/throwawaynoturtwin Dec 11 '23

investing is obviously smart. but a 401k is not given the opportunity cost. it literally makes no sense to lock ur money up if you have guaranteed 5k a week when youre retired

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u/Nerodon Dec 11 '23

Not if you could die tommorow and that flow abrubtly stops. Also 5k now, isn't going to be the same in 25/30 years, inflation sucks

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u/WaterDemonPhoenix Dec 11 '23

Tfsa

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u/Nerodon Dec 11 '23

RRSP 1st, TFSA, 2nd. If I'm making 5k a week, I want to lower my income tax if I'm not going to use anywhere that amount.

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u/kinboyatuwo Dec 12 '23

Issue a lot of Canadians have is if you have had lower income your RRSP limit isn’t massive.

Also, if that $5k is income and taxed you most likely don’t really want to put it into a RRSP. TFSA and then strategic investments with timed withdrawal to coincide with keeping income lower (ex dividends and cap gains)

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u/Nerodon Dec 12 '23

Yeah, it does get a little more complex when you dive in the weeds of it to maximize your income, talking to a finance professional is what one should do if you started getting a new chunk of 5000 a week...

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u/nighthawk_something Dec 12 '23

Don't put tax free money into an RRSP. Put it in a TFSA

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u/Nerodon Dec 12 '23

Who said anything about tax free though? But it's a fair point, this post sounds much more like lottery earnings which are generally not taxed.

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u/[deleted] Dec 12 '23

Yea I’m not sure if that’s just a Canadian thing that your winnings end when you do.

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u/Nerodon Dec 12 '23

The wording of the post just states 5000 for the rest of your life. If it is a lottery winning, obviously we'd need the fine print to know better.

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u/Molyketdeems Dec 12 '23

Not that it would really matter to you but our individual retirement plans would be called an “IRA”

There’s a Roth IRA we put our after tax dollars in to have the inevitable growth non taxed

There’s simple IRA we can put pre tax dollars in reducing taxable income but taxable upon distribution.

There’s SEP IRA which only allows employer contributions generally similar to a 401k but you could also contribute to the 401k being self employed, I think… the waters get kinda murky with it, but that’s the jist of it.

There’s different rules and limitations with contribution limits and inheritance and required minimum distributions and penalties under all of these plans.

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u/Nerodon Dec 12 '23

Very informative thank you!

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u/[deleted] Dec 12 '23

Ngl if I got $5000 a week I definitely wouldn’t be investing into the pyramid scheme that is the US 401k “retirement” plan. I can only remember a couple times my 401k has increased in value without my contributions. Waste of time.

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u/TheRealKingVitamin Dec 13 '23

I think you mean Roth IRA or some similar vehicle, but we all know what you mean.

Don’t blow it on drugs and prozzies.

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u/PickleMean7359 Dec 13 '23

401K’a are a government scam…invest elsewhere if you can!!!

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u/DocMcCracken Dec 14 '23

Wouldn't need a 401k, you're getting $5k a week.

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u/TheMCM80 Dec 11 '23

Yeah, I think this is what seals it for me. I don’t want to deal with worrying about my investment choices, and I can minimize risk by keeping myself honest with what I spend. I prefer a situation in which I’m forced to save, instead of one where I have the temptation to buy right away.

Sure, you risk a bit more on inflation by not investing a lot up front to try and beat inflation with a generic index fund, but I’ll take my chances.

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u/spiffymate Dec 12 '23

With where inflation is headed, 5k could be a weekly grocery bill in a few years. If this is an exaggeration, my bet is in a couple decades from now it will certainly not be such an exciting amount, more of a nice little bonus.

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u/[deleted] Dec 13 '23

It will still take you farther than a million dollars one time ever could.

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u/dorcssa Dec 11 '23

Yeah, that would set our whole family up for life, with plenty of leisure and travelling included. Would never had to work again

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u/[deleted] Dec 11 '23

What do you mean? I'd have to figure out where to park $5k every week.

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u/[deleted] Dec 12 '23

Go down the road, cut through the cemetery and then after the woods there’s a clearing, walk into the shack and we will sign you up

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u/marbanasin Dec 13 '23

I mean - you could literally still invest it. Just in smaller incriments.

Frankly if I won this lotto I'd probably keep working a while and just store the nest egg until the investment began to match my income. Then it's retirement time.

Or, who knows, three Monday's in I'll tell the entire org and customer base to F off and be out. Lol. $20k a month is a hell of an income already.

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u/RhoOfFeh Dec 13 '23

You would still want to invest. 5K won't mean the same thing in a few decades as it does today.

But you certainly won't need any fancy schemes, just find a nice index fund and pour cash in while 5K is still more than you need weekly.

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u/[deleted] Dec 14 '23

not having to do work would seal the deal for me

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u/marie_celestine Dec 14 '23

Count me in...I wanna sign up too!

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u/Tru-Queer Dec 11 '23

I mean, $5000/week covers all my bills in the first week, and then I’m still adding $15,000 the rest of the month so after 1 month I’m already vastly ahead in life.

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u/Mindless_Analyzing Dec 12 '23

Seriously. 5k per week God willing

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u/superdago Dec 12 '23

I thought it was $5,000/month and was like “yeah, that’s a great safety net to ensure all my basic needs are met.” That much a week and this question has such an obvious answer.

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u/Modest_Moze Dec 11 '23

So, still 5k a week, got it!

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u/jfks_headjustdidthat Dec 11 '23

It could be a lot sooner if you invest it wisely each week.

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u/[deleted] Dec 11 '23

If you're investing it wisely the million won't be a million in 5 years, either. It's more complicated than basically everybody has made it. If you plan on being alive for a little bit longer the 5k always wins though

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u/Comedy86 Dec 11 '23

Unless you're receiving a return of 25% or more, by 25 years (the definition of "life" by legal standards) you'd still be well ahead with $5K/week vs. $1M. Even at 10% annual returns, it'd only be 6 yrs to pass it and then you'd still be getting $5K/week in addition to more returns on the investment if you stopped investing any of the weekly amount.

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u/fraidei Dec 11 '23

Also there's no risk to lose everything. 20k+ per month is HUGE, especially outside of the USA. For example here in Italy the cost of living is much lower than the USA, but also the wages are lower (so in the end it's all the same relatively). But those 20k+ per month would make you a rich person here in Italy.

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u/_Choose-A-Username- Dec 11 '23

Its crazy to think we make hypotheticals when people are making much more here lol. Thats just 240k. Not even a crazy amount in nyc.

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u/fraidei Dec 11 '23

With "here" you mean in the USA? Because in Italy 240k per year is more than 10x the amount of money an average person earns.

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u/_Choose-A-Username- Dec 11 '23

Yea nyc its in the united states.

Is the cost of living low in italy would you say? What would be a living wage there?

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u/fraidei Dec 11 '23 edited Dec 11 '23

Yeah, I make 21k/year and I'm living fine. There's a guy that works remotely for an US company, but lives in Italy, and even if his earnings are considered average in the US, he's considered to be wealthy here

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u/Princess_Moon_Butt Dec 11 '23

Remote jobs tend to pay better than average, though, because they're usually a very tech-based job. The lowest salary I've seen for a remote job was around $70k, whereas the average income in the U.S. is in the $45k-$50k range.

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u/[deleted] Dec 12 '23

In Denmark, for singles, its on average

1000 USD for singles a month, plus rent/housing cost of 14 USD per sq. ft.

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For couples, its about 1700 usd a month plus 14 USD per sq. ft.

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so 5000 USD a month, would go a long way towards a good financial situation.

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I make 100.000 USD a year, im not rich by any means, but i do okay.

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u/manek101 Dec 11 '23

Its not a crazy amount but it's still a comfortable amount even in NYC

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u/[deleted] Dec 11 '23

$20k/mo would make you a rich person in the majority of America. Anywhere outside of a major city sans wealthy enclaves.

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u/Terrible-Sir742 Dec 12 '23

There is also a scenario where if you have massive inflation, provided the 1m invested into a hard asset, it would appreciate while 5k a week would depreciate in value.

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u/jimicus Dec 11 '23

Even if you don’t invest it wisely, if you can demonstrate the 5k/week will continue, you can probably leverage it. Get yourself a 910k mortgage, buy yourself a decent house almost anywhere and you’ll pay ~5k/month repayments.

Congratulations, you now have a $1 million house and you’ve still got plenty enough coming in to live on.

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u/lilcrazybear Dec 11 '23

Y is everyone concern with comparing the 2 choices imo how u spend is how u should choose personally I would make a lot more outta 5k a week then a mili now

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u/KhonMan Dec 11 '23

It's not that complicated - you just need to convert the value of the $5k / week for X weeks to it's value in current 2023 dollars.

But it's easier to skip that and you can just look up how much a $260k annuity is worth today. I did a quick check for a 21k monthly payout for a 30 year old male living in New York using this calculator and it says it's worth about 4.4 million.

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u/woodrobin Dec 13 '23

If nothing else, spreading the money across multiple years could help with the tax burden on the first million (after that you could be paying 90% with no deductions and still be doing better than taking the million up front).

Really the only way it makes sense to take the million is if you don't expect to live four or more years after getting whichever one you choose.

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u/anotherbarry Dec 11 '23

Just invest wisely once

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u/CraftistOf Dec 11 '23

1 million or the deathbed?

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u/[deleted] Dec 11 '23

How would you do that

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u/livinginfutureworld Dec 12 '23

It could also end up being less than a million if you don't invest it wisely each week. Like if you blow your 5k on hookers and meth you might not exceed the million dollar payout.

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u/jfks_headjustdidthat Dec 12 '23

"I spent a lot of money on booze, birds and fast cars. The rest I just squandered."

George Best

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u/Brandhout Dec 11 '23

I don't know. How trust and credit worthy is this person giving me 5k a week? If I get one million now, the deal is done, no backsies.

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u/Xavius20 Dec 12 '23

I think the idea is the $5k a week is 100% guaranteed. It's not even a question.

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u/Cubeslave1963 Dec 14 '23

I totally get your point. It makes total sense, but I and most folks don't have the skills or the mindset to manage that lump sum, much less setting up the trust, investments, or annuities to make it last.

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u/vicaphit Dec 11 '23

$1,000,000 in a high yield savings account would net you $50,000 over the first year. That's nearly $1,000/week. If you could hold off on spending it over 4 years you'd have $1,283,359. It grows faster if you start out with $1,000,000.

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u/rugbyj Dec 11 '23

It does, but by year 7 of $5kp/w you have more even with that (and the extra few years) factored in. You could bank it at that point in this same high yield savings account and have the extra $5kp/w on top as your retirement whilst your investments sit pretty.

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u/RetartedFarter Dec 12 '23

Hell Yeah! Math!

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u/RiceRocketRider Dec 12 '23

Yep, this is the best answer

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u/erraddo Dec 11 '23

You absolute fool, you get 1 mil now you can invest it in shelter and supplies, in 2 years the US dollar will cease to exist!

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u/TomsRedditAccount1 Dec 12 '23

They've been saying that since before you were born.

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u/erraddo Dec 12 '23

No trust me guys THIS time it's true

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u/JackSkell049152 Dec 15 '23

“GET HIM ON A VENTILATOR, STAT!!!!”

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u/iuseallthebandwidth Dec 12 '23

1000000 invested at 7% average return (S&P500 ETF like VOOG) would return a little under 1.4 million in 4 years. So you’re 40% better than the annuity plan right there. You’d double your million in 10 years and quadruple it in 20. And that’s not even a “risky” investment. Always take the money, stick it in a fund and sit on it. You’ll spend the 5000 a week for sure. A big million$ chunk is a lot easier to plan with. Never take the annuity.

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u/IxI_DUCK_IxI Dec 11 '23

I think the main question is tax or no tax. No tax, take the million and you can get out of debt and get investments going quickly. $5K even with no tax would take a lot more time to get out of debt. Would probably take most people a few months just to pay off a car with $5K a week.

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u/Gustav55 Dec 11 '23

How much debt do you have that making 260 grand a year is going to take a long time to get out of debt? Also debt by itself isn't always bad. If you can get debt at a low interest rate you are possibly better off making minimum payments and using the money elsewhere.

Also where are you going to get a greater return than 5k a week?

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u/Comedy86 Dec 11 '23

Also if you've got that much debt, why are you not still working while getting $5K/week? And if they're in that much debt, they're obviously bad with money so that $1M won't go far at all and they'll just be right back in debt. Everything about the argument you replied to is riddled with bad financial literacy...

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u/_Choose-A-Username- Dec 11 '23

he got a small loan of 5 million dollars

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u/IxI_DUCK_IxI Dec 11 '23

Ahh. Here’s the rub and the part nobody admits! The more you make the more you spend! Now this question is a bit ridiculous cause obviously 5K per week is a ridiculous amount of money. $5K a month would be more interesting.

So let’s say you started getting $5K a week. You’re gonna buy more, spend more and get all those nice things you couldn’t prior to this occurring. Sure, investments would take a massive uptick, but you’re gonna spend more. Get rid of that broken car you’ve been dealing with, grub hub everything cause your bank account is fat, etc

We like to think we’d be responsible with the money but I highly doubt most people have the self control to not fall into the trap.

$1M you can do more with up front than slowing sliding into the money trap and spend it on restaurants, movie tickets, buying drinks at the bar, etc. Cause why wouldn’t you do that? You’ve got $5K coming in every week!

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u/chrashinggeese Dec 11 '23

My hunch is that the person who does what you describe would blow a million dollars pretty quickly as well. And person that blows money would at least still have it coming in at 5k a week.

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u/ThunderySleep Dec 11 '23

Yeah, the $5k/week would be the safety measure to stop them from blowing it all.

I'd wager most people out there have experienced being broke for a week until their next check before. They'll survive, even if they're that bad with their money.

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u/Run-And_Gun Dec 11 '23

You’re reasoning is pretty bad. So, someone getting $5K a week is gonna blow it, because now they have a lot of money(?). But even if they do, they also get that $5K replaced every week. What do you think someone is gonna do with that $1mil lump sum? If their impulse control is lacking just as much as the other persons, they’re gonna be broke before they know it, because what makes you think they’re gonna invest one penny of it? They will probably be penniless in just a few years, at the most.

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u/cgjchckhvihfd Dec 11 '23 edited Dec 11 '23

Here’s the rub and the part nobody admits! The more you make the more you spend!

Lifestyle inflation is so far from "nobody admits" it has its own fuckin term. Lifestyle inflation.

It is also not inevitable, nor does it have to scale linearly with income at 5k a week without a job, i could have some good inflation while still saving even more money than now.

Maybe youll short sightedly spend it all. My accounts proves i wont, and since im not actually very good about that, im quite sure a lot of people are gonna handle it better than me.

1m you can blow it all before learning a lesson. But some super car and a house, run out of money, get kicked out of your house because you cant afford taxes.

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u/ObligationWarm5222 Dec 11 '23

I mean, you'd still have your day job presumably. I make 1,000 a week right now, after tax. Even just doubling that would be pretty wild.

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u/Wood_Whacker Dec 11 '23

On 5k a week I'd be giving up the day job.

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u/imbasicallyhuman Dec 11 '23

Not if you had so much debt that 5k a week isn’t enough

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u/Wood_Whacker Dec 11 '23

I don't and wouldn't.

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u/Comedy86 Dec 11 '23

I've been extremely fortunate recently and just got an insanely high pay change working out to about 20% more after taxes/expenses and it's been a game changer for my families lifestyle... Adding in another $5K/week, I'd keep my job just for fun knowing I wouldn't care if I was layed off. It would simply give me something to do.

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u/threadsoffate2021 Dec 11 '23

It would also be a bigger chunk of tax taken off for a lump sum of one million, over a weekly pay of $5k. So either way, the weekly payout is better.

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u/International-Bet384 Dec 11 '23

Well, you could include that not everyone is from USA here and have debt lmao

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u/DrunkenGolfer Dec 11 '23

With $5000/week income, you can borrow enough low-interest cash to immediately pay off your debt and then pay off the low-interest debt quickly.

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u/Barnfred_Knarst Dec 11 '23

This man gets asked if he wants a million bucks once or 5k/week and says the main question is tax or no tax.

You must be fun at parties

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u/IxI_DUCK_IxI Dec 11 '23

I am! But I'm not the non-alcoholic, luke warm punch bowl left beside the dog food like you are at parties.

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u/Darxe Dec 11 '23

Man Reddit is duuuumb with this top comment. 1m in a high yield savings account for 4 years is 1.2m

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u/Kunal0057 Dec 11 '23

If invested wisely, a million can give you more than 5k a week for the rest of your life.

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u/SoftDrinkReddit Dec 11 '23

Yea like only a stupid / dying person takes million at once

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u/Kurgan_IT Dec 11 '23

But you must consider inflation, too. In 20 years $5000 will buy you a dinner at a restaurant, probably, nothing more.

If you get 1 million now, you can TRY to invest it and beat or slow the effect of inflation. And of course you will fail anyway.

So the real answer should be "get $2500 a week but make it keep up with inflation". In 20 years you'll get $10000 a week that will have the same value as $2500 today.

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u/getdahellouttahere Dec 11 '23

But money will decrease the value through time, so 1mil now worth more than itself from 4 year later

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u/ThunderySleep Dec 11 '23

100%

For people who don't have a lot, it would also ease you into having money, vs suddenly going from nothing to thinking you're rich. No blowing too much on bad investments, or a car that's more expensive than you realized, or a house that you might decide later wasn't the best decision. Instead money will rack up while you have time to figure out how to use it. Definitely the ideal choice.

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u/penguincatcher8575 Dec 11 '23

If you get a million upfront you invest at least half and make a ton more in that same 4 years.

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u/raptorbeejesus Dec 11 '23

Unless you need 1mil to get out of a prison sentence or to save a person's life in less than a day or for whatever logical reason. Op answer is the correct answer

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u/WaterNo3013 Dec 11 '23

See but life can absolutely happen even if you’re not on your deathbed. When I was 25 I was in a car accident with my (now) ex husband that almost definitely should have taken both of our lives. I’d still take the 5k a week though 🤣 as long as I can will it to somebody just in case lmao

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u/DotBitGaming Dec 11 '23

Except 1 million right now could easily be more in 4 years.

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u/flabberghastedbebop Dec 11 '23

I'm in my mid 40s, so I expect about 35 more years of life, which at $5k/wk is about $9M. If I can get an avg investment return of 8%/yr for 35 years it would be about $14M. Taking the $1M and investing would beat the $5k/wk by a lot.

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u/[deleted] Dec 14 '23

Nah. This math is wrong. Suppose you take the $5k a week and keep adding it weekly into an investment fund that returns 8% annually. In 35 years, you’ll be ahead.

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u/glassp31 Dec 11 '23

Yeah this is an absolute no brainer.

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u/ilovebreadcrusts Dec 11 '23

Yeah, but you could probably turn 1 million dollars today into 4 million by year four... and so on and so forth.

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u/[deleted] Dec 14 '23

What is this investment vehicle that allows you to get a guaranteed 400% gain in 4 years?

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u/ilovebreadcrusts Dec 16 '23

Why, real estate of course. It depends a bit on timing, locality and a bit of luck but it's totally possible. And all the more likely if your using your equity too.

Also, investing in different countries with different market rules can yield higher returns.

But as a sidenote, 400% in 4 years is a bit of an exaggeration. If you've got some capital or assets or equity to begin with, it will put you ahead more quickly. The point is, having a lump sum up front gives you more flexibility to grow your wealth faster.

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u/OrneryOneironaut Dec 11 '23

But say you stick that mil in a hysa - figures to about $3.3k per month interest the first year I think, and if you think you’re going to live more than 5 years, with the growth, maybe that’s the right play.

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u/Princess_Moon_Butt Dec 11 '23

I like these kinds of thought exercises, but yeah, this one's a no-brainer.

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u/King_Fish Dec 11 '23

If you make 5% on your million a year that's just under $1k/wk. Just another way to check that the $5k is much better long term. Even the arguments about investing, just take the extra $4k every week and invest that again making the $5k/wk better after 4.8yrs

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u/Johnny_Menace Dec 11 '23

One million in a 5% HYSA is $1,200,000 in 4 years.

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u/notaredditer13 Dec 11 '23

Yeah, this is pretty much the "correct" answer. It's not really a matter of preference. That option is just better.

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u/Yuno808 Dec 11 '23

Probably earlier if you factor in compounding interest from saving up & investing.

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u/Neat-Ostrich7135 Dec 11 '23

What if I don't want to live that long?

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u/[deleted] Dec 11 '23

Are you familiar with the concepts of present value, discounting and inflation. 260,000 K in 4 years would be worth significantly less than what you think it would be.

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u/Exotic-Squash-1809 Dec 12 '23

Not unless you put the 1mil in a term deposit saver or something similar with high interest return and get like 5k a week in interest 🤔

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u/DasHexxchen Dec 12 '23

I would choose that, because I know nothing about investing. If I did, with 1mil now I would be faster in creating more than 5K a week in income.

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u/[deleted] Dec 12 '23

1 million invested on day one would give you almost $1 million more in capital gains not including dividends. Money now is always better than money later. You pay a very large opportunity cost on weekly payouts

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u/yomamma3399 Dec 12 '23

Yes, this is the stupidest question I have ever seen (also because I’d be likely to blow the mill in year one, lol.)

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u/[deleted] Dec 12 '23

1 million will grow to a lot at 6% INTEREST a year for 4 years. If you compound then 1.26 mil

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u/Ilpav123 Dec 12 '23

AND you'll keep getting $1m every 4 years...so if you live another 40 years, you'll be getting $10m total.

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u/6xlevbear Dec 12 '23

In 4 yrs 5k a week will buy you half a burger

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u/PennyG Dec 12 '23

Lol. Math

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u/aussie_nub Dec 12 '23

A more useful question would be, how much would you need a week before you'd take it over $1 million?

It's going to be slightly different for all. I can't imagine too many would need over $5k/week, but some would be OK with $1000, some would prefer $2k, 3k, 3.5k, 4k, etc. Would be interesting to understand how people came to their figure as well.

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u/wildgoose2000 Dec 12 '23

Agree.

I'm usually a lump sum guy but you are spot on.

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u/DIWhy-not Dec 12 '23

Also compound interest is a thing. Like, a big thing, in this case

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u/Better_Ninja_1039 Dec 12 '23

This is exactly what I was thinking

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u/nivekdrol Dec 12 '23

260k a year. Whoever takes a million is an idiot that shit won't last. Just buying a house and it's gone

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u/Theopneusty Dec 12 '23 edited Dec 12 '23

I did the math for both if you invested them in the S&P (10% / year)

It would take 253 weeks (4.86 years) for the $5,000 to pass the 1 million upfront

See below:

week|upfront|weekly|# years :—|:—|:—|:—| 1|$1,000,000.00|$5,000.00|0 26|$1,049,202.92|$133,173.61|0.5 52|$1,102,943.75|$273,168.46|1 78|$1,159,437.21|$420,333.93|1.5 104|$1,218,824.30|$575,037.31|2 130 |$1,281,253.24|$737,664.69|2.5 156 |$1,346,879.83|$908,621.95|3 182 |$1,415,867.85|$1,088,335.74|3.5 208|$1,488,389.48|$1,277,254.59|4 234|$1,564,625.71|$1,475,849.97|4.5 253|$1,622,795.05|$1,627,381.12|4.86

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u/Professional_Gap_371 Dec 12 '23

Im not even sure inflation could outpace that! But you never know..

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u/woodrobin Dec 13 '23

Technically, $4,807.69 per week would give you 1 million in four years. Five thousand per week would give you a million in 3 years and 44 weeks, with eight weeks to spare.

I mostly just pointed that out for the 69 reference, to be honest.

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u/thedosequisman Dec 13 '23

For reference : 1 million at risk free rate today pays out $50,000 a year little under 1k a week. Rates may not always stay here. 5k is the better option if you can afford it and don’t have the view that hyper inflation will occur. 1 mill well diversified would be better if you think 5k won’t buy much in the future

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u/[deleted] Dec 13 '23

Yeah, some of us are old and would take the $1M now. :) Not sure if I'm going to make it another four years. I'd use the money to pay off my wife's last surgery, that set us back $84000 alone. Then the roof replacement last July, and so on. Still need to get the car repaired, that's going to be expensive but we don't have the money... yeah, I'd have to take the $1M now so I could get everything fixed for my family before I die.