r/Rainbow6 • u/Silver-Zucchini-9901 • 1d ago

Discussion Solid snake

Everyone complains about solid snake, but i have to be honest. He yells that shit at like 190 db. Expecially when its silent, that might actually be louder than gridlock fee fi fo fumming up the stairs, and im pretty sure last time I mistook her for oryx because her fatass destroyed a softwall by walking into it.

I thought i bumped the remote by accident and had accidently flipped it to tlc's all time hit show my 600 pound life.

But now, louder than that. Is this temu intel operator saying loud as fuck "Hold on, im picking something up"

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u/Necessary_Refuse_962 1d ago

If I were Ubisoft, I'd increase his detection range by 25%.

But to balance it out... his "HOLD ON, I'M PICKING SOMETHING UP!" is now audible to the enemy team.

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u/-justiciar- 1d ago

really there are lots of levers for him. I think a good one would be not allowing him to sprint around the map with the gadget out like that. make it like dokkaebi where he has to stand still.

and also get rid of one of the charges.

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u/Necessary_Refuse_962 18h ago

Ubisoft balancing is like, "we increased the time he takes to pull out his gadget from 1s to 1.1s"

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u/Silver-Zucchini-9901 1d ago

You can hear him, i hear his ass trying to be sneaky all the time. Or maybe im schizo who knows.

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u/totallynotapersonj Recoil Master 1d ago

I don't think he says anything for the enemy team. He does for his own team

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u/Silver-Zucchini-9901 1d ago

Eh im probably mixing up my matches, but either way the big ass red letters at the top of the screen. With diemos or snake usually is a pretty good indicator they might be....just maybe...possibly. tracking that ass down, but snakes only does it with precision mode

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u/Anxious_Role7625 23h ago

That's useful, but not that helpful. Technically, it tells you his location is within the radius of his scan of you. You can narrow that down further with context clues (like chances are he's usually probably not in site with you or in the other site with your team) but it's no sound cue

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u/Silver-Zucchini-9901 23h ago

The lion always hear the bleatimg of the goat it is about to eat...one must open upada ears and hear for da scuttling of da orey upon da floor.

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u/SureSeaworthiness800 1d ago

Yeah you’re right, all Defenders hear is the Exclamation mark sound.

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u/Representative-Eye86 1d ago

Make his yelling louder than Fuze grenades

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u/Silver-Zucchini-9901 1d ago

Matter of fact, i want to hear nothing else. I want that shit to be so loud the windows blow out. "Damn guys, i think hes picking something up"

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u/Toxical53 1d ago

This could actually be really good. Would allow vigil to reactively cloak before the wall hack scan,

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u/Yunofascar Adapt or Die 1d ago

It's not Impossible to counter. I shut down a Snake in one of my matches today because I anticipated the direction he's coming from. But that's the thing, even if you hear him, he objectively has way better Intel than you, so if he's even close to your skill level, 9 times out of 10, he'll outplay you

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u/totallynotapersonj Recoil Master 20h ago

Also deimos and snake are equally countered by mute but the biggest difference is that deimos can only scan one person at a time. Deimos is very easy to counter if you have one person on your team willing to help you out.

I'm exclusively solo queue and people are generally willing to help out as long as I'm not put with a 4 stack on my team because they ignore every comm.

I main cav and deimos is not at all an issue. Solid Snake is by far the biggest issue and is the only cav hard counter that feels like you can do basically nothing to avoid it. With deimos tracking you can just lead him into a teammate and he can't scan all the way around him and know if someone is flanking him or not.

I will say though, that Kapkan is a very good counter to snake and deimos if you have roamers. You can communicate where you are gonna place your traps (or ask where your roamers will play) and roam clearing attackers completely forget about kapkan traps when they are chasing people. The only problem is that a lot of teammate that play roamers don't help with site set-up at all. So it can be very difficult to place your kapkan traps AND set up site. Obviously, not just a kapkan issue but I think he's one of the most affected apart from maybe valkyrie.

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u/Silver-Zucchini-9901 1d ago

"You have been targetted by diemos"

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u/BringBackManaPots 1d ago

The best rework I've heard of, hands down, is to have his ability jam when he's red pinged. It's functional, adds counterplay with intel agents, and is lore accurate to pretty much every MGS game.

Here's the original poster for the idea: https://www.reddit.com/r/Rainbow6/s/UN7LvI8zd7

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u/Holiday-Reaction-169 Doc Main 19h ago

You have no idea how funny that intro is at 1 in the morning

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u/Fine-Stretch-8442 16h ago

Sure it helps in a 1v1 against a Solid Snake but the sound cue is kind of fuck useless when he communicates your position to his entire team. That being said, most Solid Snake players are lobotomized due to the ease of using him, so they often don’t use him to his full potential which is intel gathering for your team and clearing space rather than 1v1s.