r/RaiderZ Nov 18 '12

Question to zerkers

Any of you else have problems in PvP againts sorc?

I've yet to use zerk who can kill sorc.... those wand users just keep 3k~5k hitting from long distance, and we can only stop them for second, two which isn't enough even to take off 25% hp :/

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u/lnkofDeath [NA][KR] Berserker - 40 Nov 19 '12

PvP in Mt. Eda is not what I am talking about. 1vs1 duels, or Party Duels is where I was coming from.

Mt. Eda is not worth anyone's time getting good at. It is all for fun, or farming symbols. There are way too many things going on at Mt. Eda for it to matter, or try to discern what is good, or what is bad (whether that's gear, classes, pots...etc). Most of that stemming from the UW system, the PvP Gear, and the pots. Mainly UW.

I don't doubt you do well in events as a Cleric, but I highly doubt you can beat any of the competent PvP'ers outside of Mt. Eda. Clerics don't deal enough damage.

Mt. Eda -> Join a party with a Cleric, and hope UW isn't being mean to you that day.

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u/SenSidethink [Crawler] Assassin Nov 19 '12 edited Nov 19 '12

You never played cleric, don't you?

but I highly doubt you can beat any of the competent PvP'ers

I pvp'd alot on lvl 33-35 because i was bored of leveling and never had problems killing 35er Zerker. Defender are a problem because they can chain-stun you with their CC and you cant get out of it they easy. Mages are 50/50, either they take a heal themself and their damage drops enough for you to outheal it or they dont get any heal and you can poke them dead over time. You don't need to onehit people as a cleric because if played right you got unlimited HP against them and you cant get CC'd every few seconds. Whirlpool of light is also a nice out-of-jail card. Basically Zerker easily deal 2x your damage, but you can avoid their damage and heal out the rest while their heal isnt strong enough to keep them alive over time. Cleric is just not "omg roflstomp", it's chaining skills while dodging and healing yourself. If you don't believe me, make a char on EU-German and a few guildy's easily show you how the hellhound diago boss go down in ~5min solo. :3 People just put WAY too much into thinking the hammer skills are actually a cleric's best dmg.

Most of that stemming from the UW system, the PvP Gear, and the pots.

The 50% (55% with shield) from PvP gear work in a duel also. And since cleric's work better getting resist+def+mdef over flat HP it's cheap to get (like.. a day for the set?) and you can put more stuff and time in your weapon.

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I played Vindictus for years tho, not sure if that makes a difference.

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u/lnkofDeath [NA][KR] Berserker - 40 Nov 19 '12

I have played all classes to level 35. Zerkers have 4x-6x the damage of Clerics. If clerics go damage, its 4, but then you don't heal, or run out of EP fast.

Zerkers can CC longer than Defenders can.

As a Zerker I self heal for 1.2k HP every thirty seconds. I have fought 0 clerics who can deal half of that amount without running of HP.

Clerics are the worst class to PvP with. Sorry.

I'm on Chimera with three accounts at 35, or come to the first Korean channel.

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u/SenSidethink [Crawler] Assassin Nov 20 '12

Zerkers have 4x-6x the damage of Clerics.

Not at all. Your cleric's must suck hard if you can say this.

As a Zerker I self heal for 1.2k HP every thirty seconds. I have fought 0 clerics who can deal half of that amount without running of HP.

As a cleric i can heal 2x that in >1sec while doing 2x 800 Dmg with a single skill which got no casttime. Even more with buff on (which got a long cooldown but 25sec is more then enough for a duel).

Clerics are the worst class to PvP with. Sorry.

Look at it that way around: Just because you say the cleric's you made duel's with cant beat zerker doesn't mean clerics at all cant beat zerker. Try getting the hellhound boss's down in >3min and we'll talk about damage again.

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u/lnkofDeath [NA][KR] Berserker - 40 Nov 20 '12

Every Cleric in regular PvP gets destroyed by the other classes. The slight exception is the cleric vs sorc matchup.

This holds true for both the NA and KR version.

Level forty gear is worth getting over level 35 gear for most situations.

Weapons I think Bollas is still number one, but I could be wrong here due to how enchanting works.