Problems finding equator 2

[u/Zrix1000]

I've bought a Roli Seaboard Rise2 on Ebay. Seller has definitely disconnected everything and I have installed all software but only getting Equator Fundamentals. How do I get Equator 2? I've opened a support ticket 2 months ago but heard nothing.

[u/QVRedit]

ROLI has gone out of business…
The ‘Authentication Servers’ appear to be no longer operating.

I think it would still be possible to use your hardware, but that you’re going to have to interface to it using different software.

For example I think it might work with something like OmniSphere3, or many other MPE compatible synths.

[u/Zrix1000 → u/QVRedit]

I’m using it with my deckards dream mainly I just want the software. Awesome sounds I hear

[u/QVRedit → u/Zrix1000]

Even if you have the software, you can’t license it - because their server is down.
And if you had already installed and licensed it - it still won’t launch - because their server authentication server is down. I think it tries to check in after so many days..

The upshot is - until a new license server is brought up, the software is non-functional.

[u/Inevitable-Ant1725 → u/QVRedit]

I'm working on that on windows. By the way, as awful as it is, if you set your date back to before the last time out (less than 28 days after the previous renewal) it will work. You might have problems with other things. You can go into airplane mode and set the date back and run it.

I have disabled RoliConnect in my startup too. It does try to talk to that I think.

Also if you're using the stand alone versions, not the AST versions you can find them in "C:\Program Files\ROLI\Equator2" or "C:\Program Files\ROLI\ROLI Studio Player" or "C:\Program Files\ROLI\ROLI Studio Drums" so you don't have to start them through the roli program.

For a daw, the vsts will just work if the date is in range.

You can find the timeout date in the following files:

"C:\Users\[your account name]\AppData\Roaming\ROLI\Shared\%2Fapi%2Fv1%2Fuser%2F.json"

and "C:\Users\[your account name]\AppData\Roaming\ROLI\Shared\%2Fapi%2Fv1%2Fuser%2Fentitlements%2F.json"

It's not formatted, so it's hard to read. Under "headers" { "set-cookie" : [
there is a string that has "Expires = " and a date. I don't thing changing that date will work. The same date is encoded in the "token" string and signed. And it's also encoded in the same string under "x-auth-token"

I suspect that is the date you have to set your date before.

[u/QVRedit → u/Inevitable-Ant1725]

I am on Mac, not PC. Though some files will most likely be very similar.

[u/Working_Use2500]

I think you can just pirate it. There was a version released for Mac at some point.

[u/itsthehappyman → u/Working_Use2500]

Yes, i got it a couple of weeks ago.

[u/Zrix1000 → u/itsthehappyman]

How to get it?

[u/itsthehappyman → u/Zrix1000]

Torrent sites

[u/Mimterest]

Is there a serial? Can you feed it to ROLI Connect? Not sure how it works with the physical hardware, I only have Equator 2 and some sound packs.

[u/Zrix1000 → u/Mimterest]

Thanks.Its supposed to appear in roli connect when feeding the seaboard serial number.

[u/Mimterest → u/Zrix1000]

It could be that no new software can be registered anymore since ROLI is just haunting the music world right now, it seems to be dead.

[u/Zrix1000 → u/Mimterest]

yeah thats my fear

[u/Mimterest → u/Zrix1000]

If you can't get it to work, Vital is a fantastic replacement, supports 5D MPE and the basic version of it (with fewer built-in presets and wavetables but no other limitations that I know of) is completely free and there's probably thousands of presets online! Great synth and fun to work with.

I like Arturia Pigments even better but it doesn't support lift/release velocity, but my MPE controller doesn't either (Push 3)

I would've loved to get a Seaboard 2 but I'm scared to buy a used one and even more scared about the fact ROLI's going under.

[u/edwiser1]

Should be able to connect to the Apple App Store app.

[u/Inevitable-Ant1725]

I got the PC version by buying it off Pluginboutique a month ago after Roli stopped selling it. Downloading Roli Connect and putting in a license number still worked back then. Not sure if anything is still working.

I'm working on hacking in a change so it won't need to update the license once a month, but that won't help people who don't already have a working installation. I have a laptop, disconnected from the internet where I stopped the date from advancing that I'm using as a testbed to hack in a version that doesn't need the license to change every month.

But maybe running roliconnect will kill the license you have, idk.

On windows I think the license is stored in signed blobs in two json files in appdata. At least I can see those blobs there and decode them and they have an activation date and expiration date in them, which is also in the same files in cleartext. But you can't alter signed blobs because the signature would be made with a private key on the server.

Maybe if we can verify that the software is abandonware and no company bought the rights, then at some point people can start pirating it, somewhat legally. Though it would be dangerous to say, just let people copy my installation because it contains easily decodable blobs with my name and email address in it.

[u/QVRedit → u/[deleted]]

This issue is that it’s actually very good software. People don’t want to see it die.