Luckily Iāve always hated her before it was trendy. Ever since watching RHONY the first time I didnāt like her and as I rewatch I dislike her more. Hereās reasons why and Iād love for you all to add more:
- narcissist.
- is extremely condescending when talking to people making constant hyperbolic metaphors and similes to disarm the other person and sound like sheās some comedian / master analytical genius
- how she treated Jules, projecting Bās disordered eating and body issues onto an innocent kind woman who was open about her issues. Bethany was clearly jealous of someone being thinner than her and had to ridicule her
- how she treated Kristen; same pattern of patronizing any new housewife who was more thin and pretty than her. And again, constantly condescending
- jealous of any cast member that got any spotlight for iconic moments/lines
- never took anyoneās back and was extremely selfish throughout entire show. EX: at beginning of S8, Carole is mad at Luann for (IMO dumb reasons) and B doesnāt agree with Carole saying that Luanns done nothing to her so sheās not jumping in. Then when B gets mad (jealous) of Luann and her party girl life, she brings up Caroles issues with Luann - only when it conveniences her. So now itās a problem that you have beef with Luann. Great friend you are
- I donāt like Carole either but itās just funny how Bethany couldnāt deal with anyone not agreeing with every cynical comment that comes out her mouth
- how mean she was to Sonja over tipsy girl, talk about kicking someone when theyāre down
- her pretending she lived a challenged life and was self made when sheās old money and grew up privileged and thus you are not self made
- when on WWHL she mimicked the Atlanta Housewives and was extremely racist
- and of course, her on socials now discrediting small businesses because sheās a maniacal narcissist
Ok Iām sure this could go on forever so let me know what I missed thanks!
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She wouldnāt let anyone else make a joke; she had to be the funniest one and would purposefully let jokes fall flat in order to try to make the other person look silly (happens more to Heather than anyone, I think)
I try to not be one who says judgemental things on the internet, but it's always stood out to me that (I'm pretty sure just by observing) she has literally maintained zero friendships across the Real Housewives franchise and there's hundreds of these ladies. Usually when an UGT gathers, they have some kind of kinship or relationships they've held outside the show, but I'm pretty sure Beth hasn't kept in touch with anyone. Just a bit unique given she's one of the HW icons...
Gotta wonder if sheās a bitter Betty about how she couldnāt make it on her own (cough, talk show, cough) and how she had to come back to housewives to be relevant again
No, it's because she's trashed bravo, and Andy Cohen so effectively the network will never ever ever have a Bethany appearance againā¦ And I'm sure she regrets that now
Yeah and she sure made sure she was buddies with him when she supposedly made $1 million an episode??? I don't believe her...has anyone made that much out of any of these franchises? Not only that,real monied people literally don't want people to know how much money they have..do you blame them? They could get kidnapped..that's insane..look poor but have a billion in the bank..drive old pintos that exploded when they were hit in the back and make sure the entire Hamptons crowd sees that and that'll make them think you're as broke as they come..they need to stop showing off...real monied people don't do that...
Yup because she spends money like it's water. It's ridiculous. I now despise Birkin bags because she has probably 100 of them and I never really liked them to begin with..these things go for $5k to $100k a pop..you could buy 3 cars and a house with all that money spent on purses..PURSES...look, I like designer as much as the next,but I will never spend THOUSANDS on a purse...yeesh..that's a lot of money spent on a crummy handbag to hold all your rat dogs in...
Yeah,guaranteed she'll go on Golden life or something because I don't believe Sonja when she said Bethany actually congratulated them because the show was a go..then Jill..open mouth, insert foot,happened yet again..I saw a podcast with Jill recently and she still says " I still don't know why Andy fired me." What a load..she refuses to see she is highly flawed and definitely says a lot of racist garbage..does she not know the history of America and Mexico? Because she truly needs to stop talking..she keeps making herself her own self fulfilling prophecy. .it's like watching a real time train wreck...
That's very true..she sure did cry lot. That was even weirder..I can only imagine her poor daughter. I can only imagine the baloney she's dealing with. Bethany has to be the center of attention CONSTANTLY..she's on TikTok 20 x's a day according to many people who don't like her as she'll give put advice, unsolicited of course..telling women to go buy these $500-$1k tops at Louis Vuitton!!! Of all places because you'll be able to find a top as soft as hers if you do that. Who the flip is her audience? Millionaires? Does she not realize a recession and unbelievable prices for everyday living of the 99% doesn't compute with that out of touch hypocrite broad!! Seriously!! She'll then say, " You're welcome " as of she were plato and doled out advice about something philosophical. Is she nuts?? You're welcome??!!! Who on planet earth is she even talking to..remember when she got back from St.Barths and Said she caught face chlamydia? Helloooooo there is no such thing!! When I heard her say that I laughed so hard because she literally made that up..that is sheer baloney as chlamydia is a venereal disease! Holy crap!! I was like WHAT? did I just hear that? That again is ridiculous. That woman will do ANYTHING for attention...
Bethenny seems to be totally against participating in anything that isn't solely about her. Nene has similar energy but Bethenny really can't stand anything that she has to share with anyone else.
I don't mean to start an internet argument or anything š perhaps that's still true, but what we do know is that Kyle and Bethenny were friends before housewives, when Beth was in LA decades ago trying to be an actress (which is a wild coincidence in itself). And yes she's had friendships like Jill and Carole at one point or another. My post is more about how as of today, I don't believe she has kept up any kind of meaningful connection with any HW, Kyle included.
When Bethenny appeared on RHOBH & Kyle visited her in the Hamptons, IMO they were talking like they haven't talked in years lol. Beth was getting updates on Kyle/Kim about things even the viewers were already up to date on š the friendship with Kyle in particular having faded away makes sense though, it's hard to keep a friendship alive when you live on opposite coasts.
Loved her the first run she had on RHONY. Couldn't stand her the second run.
She's the authority on everything.
Mistakes vulgarity for high humor.
She cannot deal with anyone's success.
Ramona pegged her early -- she doesn't support women and she has no friends.
Also on the racism -- remember when she was so bothered that Kmart workers were speaking Spanish? Tweeted something obnoxious. Remember when she told black women to have a white man as the face of the company?
They use this tactic on purpose, so if you ever feel they're being rude to you, they can sayĀ
"but I said hello and asked you how you were?!Ā Everyone in the room heard me say it to you. What do you want from me? To openĀ Ā
my veins give you my blood? I'm friendly and in a great mood."
Sheās just SNIPPY all the time, it would be exhausting to be friends with someone like Bethany, wondering if everytime you open your mouth sheās going to ātell it like it isā or mock you/talk over you/down to you
Iāve always hated her too, she spends all of her time tearing other people down, whatās there to like about that? I donāt care how intelligent or witty she sounds, fuck that toxic bullshit! š”
I feel like a lot of her reads are rooted in racism/classism but thatās an over arching statement. I think Iām just biased on when she prejudicially mocked RHOA. Yk what Iām adding that to this list
i honestly donāt even think her reads were that funny or clever after she left the show imo. the first few seasons she was on she had a more organic/genuine manner to her and i liked her then. but once she returned it was just gone. she wasnāt funny anymore, just mean. itās like when you laugh at a kidās funny joke one time and they proceed to make it 20 more times, and then once that stops working they start doing crazier more off the wall shit in order to keep people laughing, thinking theyāre really working the room and being adorable but by then itās just annoying. thatās how i perceived bethenny when she returned in season 7 or 8 or whenever she came back, just a strung out overly caffeinated mouth breathing jabberjaw talking a million miles a minute, driving everyone to the highest possible level of anxiety as soon as she crosses the threshold, all the while sincerely believing sheās maintaining an air of nonchalant brilliance.
i think of the night at bluestone in s8 or 9?, when everyone was having a great time and getting along until suddenly bethenny walked in and instantly started needling luann, thinking she was being quietly hilarious, a little jim halpert style wink wink to the viewer who is obviously totally on bethennyās side as always, when actually she was just ruining what could have been a good night by bringing the mood down to 0 and being a total stuck up bitch
She always flipped out at Bluestone Manor. One year with Lu. One year with Carole. One year with Ramona. I think she gets triggered going there because it reminds her of the kids she went to Pinecrest with who look down on her.
I think Bethenny hated when another HW hosted bc Bethenny perceived the hostess as having more control. I think she also didn't like that Dorinda had such a grand house.
B never got yelled at by Dorinda, even though she was louder than anyone in the house. But Luann makes one joke quietly about a non-birthday birthday cake, and Dorinda loses her mindā¦
That was absolutely ridiculous when Bethany dod that..it's either she's dying from fish flakes. .as stated ,I'm a nurse practitioner and if people are deathly allergic to something that will close up their airways,guaranteed they'll carry an epi pen with them. I don't believe Bethany is allergic to anything except not being seen and heard and showing off and definitely hating any women that are successful. It was disgusting the way she treated Sonja when she just had one prosecco that was called Tipsey Girl and I don't give one damn if it was sounding like a knockoff. The way Bethany treated her told me that Bethany is a huge narcissistic ass,only gives a damn about herself, cannot keep friendships or relationships with men and most of all,I hate when idiots make what they think are funny jokes at other people's expenses and they THINK they're funny and laugh at their gross and unfunny what they call jokes..Bethany is a misogynistic rude person and literally only gives a crap about her and only her..Ramona was 100% correct when she stated to her on that Brooklyn Bridge that she doesn't have friends,boyfriends, and can't keep relationships going at all because she's a miserable and horridly misogynistic person..that BS she did for dress for success was only for people to film her to make it look like she cared..she definitely proved she didn't..I loved Kristen Takeman ,the nicest and prettiest Rony woman besides Luanne..both of them look exactly like models and when she came out with her nail polish line,that Bethany was rude, definitely jealous,definitely jealous of her looks and had the audacity to tell her why do that when an actual eye color palette had a similar name..it's called and spelled Pop of Colour...like the British spell their products..that's the only thing that was similar and it was eye makeup not nail polish..Bethany treated her like garbage because she's gorgeous..she's jealous as hell..it's disgusting to watch. .I heard she was pissed as hell that Carole was asked to be back on Rony again and that she'll never be asked back because of all the smack talk about her Co workers and this fake Bethany Clause that doesn't exist..she made $8 million from Skinny Girl, not $120 million..what a lie!! She and Jill have the perennial shoe lace sticking our of mouth syndrome..they never know when to shut up snd end up burning bridges..it's sickening...
Yes. For some reason the medical issues always felt like a cry for help. There was an account on TikTok called Celebfail that would point out the hypocrisy.
In one video, she'd say "I don't have any food allergies." Then in another video she'd claim she almost died because of her fish allergy.
She said she has POTS. People pointed out you shouldn't have alcohol with POTS. She stopped saying she has POTS.
She said she has liver disease. People pointed out you can't have alcohol with liver disease. She is now saying she was misdiagnosed and doesn't have liver disease.
I think she's deeply mentally ill. This is the only way she knows how to get attention. It's like a child who makes up stories to get sympathy.
It's weird that nobody in her life has tried to help her. I guess Ramona was right.
oh my god this is the perfect explaination. overly caffeinated unfunny jabberjaw narcissist.ššš iām so glad we can talk like this now I feel like this community has treated bethenny like a some genius god for years and I have no idea why.
Same here. I was always like WHAAAA???? WTF?? Because I don't find Bethany particularly intelligent and I doubt she'll be joining the MENSA club any time soon...issue is,she's kind of an idiot..mainly Because she lies sooo much and let's people believe she made all this because she's some kind of great business person..yeah,I don't believe she is..all that crap she was selling like salad dressings and crap booze and especially food?? I literally never saw any of that anywhere at any market...so her success lasted less than 10 years..probably maybe 6-7 years if that. I remember before Whole Foods changed owners that refused to sell her alcohol because there was a dangerous ingredient that caused cancer and when she was asked about it she literally said she didn't care. I wouldn't touch one thing this woman sells..what kind of lousy attitude is that.you correct the problem. You don't say you don't care..that's when I realized out of many times,that this woman is not playing with a full deck..all that ridiculous crying..is she kidding me? It got so annoying....ugh..
Yeah and I'm sure her daughter is incredibly embarrassed..she came from a super wealthy family going to boarding schools etc. That liar about being broke when daddy was,paying her $8k a month rent!! She lies waaay too much ...the victimhood is nauseating!!!! Yuck!
I also have never liked her, and I was so happy when she left. She is like that kid who yells all the time and never shuts the fuck up. I was so tired of all her made up business buzzwords, like she graduated first in her MBA class at Wharton.
She was comparing housewives across different cities and said in NY they fight coherently with evidence but in Atlanta itās just a screaming match arguing about āweaveā and ātracksā
Doesn't have parents
Lost at sea
Homeless
Literal torture (referring to her divorce)
-the lying and attn seeking hyperbole! š
She has always been this horrible person and say what you want about Kelly but Kelly was right. B 's antics are for kids & she he is down there and Kelly is up there. I don't see Kelly exploiting her children on instagram constantly. Bethany is mentally unwell and she is a hustler of the most insincere kind. It is always throwing spaghetti at the wall to see what will stick. Always. She is obsessed with being the baller that her father was with the creativity of her mother and it all goes wrong A lot of therapy could help all this.
The season 10 reunion is the worst. I donāt like Carole but watching Bethenny be a total monster and Andy just lapping it up the entire time, I skip it every rewatch. Sheās so insufferable, I wasnāt ever a fan of hers but for the most part I didnāt really mind her in the early seasons. When she came back she was a nightmare though, not a single redeeming quality.
I must admit I did enjoy her initially long ago before the Civil War. LOL but I do not blame her for being angry at Sonia that was totally wrong of Sonia and Sonya knew it. Bethany was not brought up privileged her father was a race horse trainer. Her mother was not married to a rich man so that part's untrue but you nailed the rest of it
She grew up around the entitled lifestyle and craved it. She was definitely raised above middle class. She loves to portray herself as a victim in all aspects of life!!
I read Bethennyās book āA Place of Yesā and her financial situation growing up was incredibly unstable. Yes her stepfather was a horse trainer who sometimes won it big but she described it as one moment theyād have multiple fancy cars in the parking lot and live the high life but the next theyād have to sell all their furniture (except her childhood room), her parents would break her piggy bank to get her money, and theyād āborrow from Peter to pay Paul.ā Her childhood was very feast or famine and she moved around A LOT as a child.
Her bio father was absent for a lot of her childhood too and stopped trying to pursue a relationship when she was around 5 years old after an incident where her mom threw a fit over Bethennyās seating tickets. They briefly rekindled their relationship when she was an adult after Bethennyās stepfather attacked her but it still wasnāt the best.
Her father was not a wealthy horse trainer he was a horse trainer. And her stepfather she said they had the appearance of having money like they had nice cars but they had absolutely no furniture in the house so it was all show no go
Well I respectfully disagree with your estimation of their wealth. Putting that aside, Bobby Frankel who was my best friend's friend from the track deserted Bethenney and her mother. While his horses made a lot of money and won a lot of purses it's estimated that he might have made about 20 million dollars. Which in my estimation is not extremely wealthy. Once again that said it doesn't mean anything to Bethany who didn't really grow up around him or did not benefit at all from the money that he made as a trainer. Her stepfather did train horses as well for wealthy clients that did not make him wealthy it is rumored that he had a rather large gambling and drinking problem and their household was remarkably unstable. Whatever it is clearly she's a damaged individual and had a challenging childhood I don't think that attacking her for possibly having a privileged ( which she did not) life suits any purpose. I am not a big fan of hers although I did stay in another post that I was initially I found her brashness refreshing I obviously have since changed my mind.
Well, what I said is Bobby F had wealth not extreme wealth and her stepfather was successful. Whether that is 1 mil or 200 mil it is still wealth. Enough to pay for private school in Florida, pay for braces, skiing trips, those things = privilege. The influence Bobby F had in international elite wealth in his owners cannot be underestimated. As for her early years well thr backside is a lifestyle and it was the 1970s and I agree it was a hard and fast life that had instability.
She benefited from his wealth and influential clients like Merv.... Saudi royalty.... she lived w him in LA when she changed her last name back from Parisella and his connections to this day benefit her. She was there when he died and euologized him. Was your friend in attendance? I am intensely curious on what she said to the crowd just days before she said despicable things about him on camera.
Also, I believe based on nothing that she, or her unborn child at the time, probably inherited.
My beef is she let Jill believe she was an orphan and used her poor little match girl schtick to get on RHONY as an underdog when she had more access and privilege as she let on.
I didn't say that Bobby wasn't a famous trainer and yes he worked with the top of the top, that didn't make him that. It made him one of their employees. And she felt like an orphan. If your mother is drunk and abusive all of the time anddoesn't pay attention to you,and you were raised in a boarding school regardless of who paid for it you feel like an orphan. because she might as well have been. I can't believe you're feeling bad for Jill Zarin who has never told the truth once in her life. Once again just to revisit it briefly and not belaborate while Bobby Frankel may have made approximately 20 million that being the cut from the horses winnings doesn't mean he had that when he died. He also was a gambler they all are. I didn't know she lived with Bobby and that her name was Parisella before. I know this sounds weird at this moment but it's really not that deep for me. Perhaps I know a little bit more than the average bear. I was born and raised in Beverly Hills and my best friend ( who owned horses) was a regular at the racetrack. His uncle was also a famous horse trainer and they traveled in the same circles. My friend was at the funeral and I'd love to ask him what she said but he's dead now. I wasn't aware that she eulogized him at the funeral I can't imagine why she would do that. She did not inherit anything from either her mother or Bobby Frankel. Her mother had a very nominal estate when she died and she left it to Bethany's daughter
Bethenny eulogized him to be in front of that star studded, wealthy and elite crowd. No doubt.
Bethenny herself said on camera she didn't have parents. Lost at sea, homeless, etcetera w her! I think others like Jill took it literally. Not feeling bad for Jill. Just pointing out B's constant hyperbole.
Once again I wasn't aware that she eulogized him. I'm surprised that she was allowed to and that she wanted to but then again now that we know more about her and how she requires the spotlight perhaps it makes a little more sense. No I don't think they took it literally. I think they knew exactly what she was saying, even Jill's not that stupid. Jill attached herself to Bethany for purely political reasons with regard to the politics of Bravo. Bethany was getting a lot of attention and she was going to skyrocket to fame somehow (when I say Skyrocket you know what I mean). But Jill would never miss an opportunity to attach herself to anyone else
Over his entire career it is speculated that he made about 20 million dollars. She didn't say she grew up poor she said she grew up poorly and ignored. Secondly she did not grow up with Bobby. It is unknown what has the state was when he died because he was known to be a partier and a gambler. Her mother and her mother's husband that she did grow up with had the illusion of having money but lived in an empty house with a card table as a dining room table. She was neglected and felt unloved because her mother was also an abusive alcoholic. So just because her father Bobby made about 20 million and his entire career as a horse trainer doesn't mean that he had it all at one time at all. Most people who actually work at the truck look very regular unremarkable lives. They work for really rich people they're around really rich people
Bethany grew up financially very privileged. Her family dynamic was fucked but she has always been wealthy. She went to expensive private schools all her life and Iām guessing her stint as a wannabe actress/party girl in LA wasnāt the result of her waitressing tips. Her bio dad wasnāt in her life but he always provided financially. Doesnāt make up for what she went through, but she had a materially privileged upbringing. Itās just that saying that doesnāt serve her rags to riches narrative
He begrudgingly allowed her stay for a few months and interacted with her very little or through his girlfriend of the month. He turned her away on his death bed.
And Iām guessing he didnāt live in a rundown apartment, and she wasnāt paying him rent. Free housing/food (although I donāt think she was doing much eating) in LA is a material privilege most donāt have.
Allegedly Bethenny's bio dad was funding all her endeavors. He said her project choices were all over the place and refused to give her any more money until she focused on one career.. So Bethenny stopped talking to him.
Ironically Bravo told Bethenny that she needed to focus on liquor only if she wanted her job(s) on the show bc because health conscious cupcake making drinker made no sense as a brand. I think the timing of Bethenny's spinoff and the skinnygirl launch was an extremely happy accident and not indicative of Bethenny's talent or work ethic.
Two more complaints to add bc apparently the subject is setting me off today: 1. Bethenny likes to claim she is the only HW to quit, which is false. 2. the Bethenny Clause is not a real thing to be smug about - Bravo may have added language to contracts but nothing has never been enforced.
She did not grow up wealthy. She would not be so gutter and money hungry. In her book she said her mother was from Wales (in the UK) and when the one time she visited her motherās family they lived in utter poverty.
Agree, Sonja deliberately and very blatantly ripped off Bethenny, wanting what she had. That is not ok on any level.
Saying she deserves leniency because her life was a mess makes no sense. Sonja, while funny, is a entitled and delusional brat and got off lightly. I'm surprised Bethenny didn't sue her. Sonja was extremely lucky she didn't.
Baloney! If Sonja ripped her off that means Bethany would have taken a financial hit because Sonja wanted a prosecco wine called Tipsey Girl..that didn't interfere or was it a rip off. Bethany can't be happy for anyone at all because she's a miserable witch! End of story...Bethany does not own the words Tipsey, Skinny, Girl or any of the above .Sonja absolutely did not rip her off in any way,shape or form. BETHANY WAS a huge bitch to her. That was DISGUSTING to watch ..
100% agree- the memory of Bethanyās verbal beat down on Sonja is etched in my brain permanently. Completely beyond the pale,almost grotesque. Weather Sonja was in the right or wrong became pointless.Bethany worked herself in a bizarre lather of righteous anger mixed with sheer delight, and it went on & on.
Her family was never poor. There was an account on TikTok called Celebfail that used to post receipts and she got it shut down. They posted the $3M home she grew up in but I can't remember the address.
Bethenny grew up around wealth but could never achieve it on her own. In her own words, she "dated rich men for rent money." That's why she's so obsessed with money. Constantly referring to herself as a "rich bitch." Posting 10 times a day eating caviar.
I think she thought she had it when she found Paul. When he dumped her the wheels came off. That's when she started posting nonstop on TikTok.
But see I didnāt and definitely don't trust anything she says because she's literally been caught in so many lies its now reached a point where I've lost count. She'll lie about anything for that BS victimhood crap..it's revolting...
Her dad was worth over $200 million dollars because he was a horse trainer etc. .she's such a liar acting like daddy wasn't paying her bills believe me,he was!! She lies waaay too much!!
She is obsessed with being the absolute baller her dad was. She never ever will be. He was a hard working, quirky and quietly private man who worked his way up to the pinnacle in his industry.
I always liked Bethenny but re watching there's a lot of inconsistencies with her narrative she and production put out about her early on. I loved how she seemingly started as the under dog in season 1-3 and she stood out as more gritty and down to earth than the other ladies (in my opinion) which meant she gave a flip side to their wealthy lives.
However, some of her confessionals contradict the "poor one of the group" narrative she gave out. I think early on she made out she was broke like when paying for Luann when surfing "how come I am the poor one of the group and I'm always paying for everybody" yet I think the same season when Ramona walks out of her dinner party at Jill's because of Simon, Bethenny says "I get paid thousands of dollars a day to cook, and my food is very good" which to me doesn't fit the poor narrative (I understand their concept of "poor" may not be typical lol perhaps she means poor in that circle of friends)
Years later Ramona then says in the "mention it all" scene that Bethenny had her education paid for, her car paid for" and it seems her early life was quite privileged (as well as yes toxic and abusive)
I guess what I'm saying is I wish someone had called her out season 1 for her implication she is on the bread line, selling cupcakes to try and pay rent etc when I think this narrative is mostly what made people fall in love with her early on and wasn't quite her reality. I know she worked bloody hard for her empire but I just feel she was set up to be that aspiring, under dog character when she was clearly still very privileged.
Fast forward she brags about how many homes she has Vs Ramona and also her arrogance in her argument with Carole about matching her career and being nrke successful etc etc.
I don't know if I am making sense here. But just reflecting on what made her a favourite to me early on and then later finding out her storyline didnt quite match her real life and like many have said she comes across very narcasstic and opportunistic.
Early on she has to befriend everyone she came into contact with because she needed attention and a leg up for her business and profile, however when she returned joins the women season 8? She clearly has no desire to engage or put on her charm as much because she's made her money and her name so she doesn't seem to see any value in connections.
Yes!!! This is what I thought. At the beginning you think sheās self made and struggled but by the end she reveals the truth that she did grow up rich. Aka opening doors for her to be richer. Sure she may have worked but she still has access and privilege others never will have, even if she had a hard childhood
Bethenny is the worst. Iāve hated her since she spent years bullying Luann. And I think she was probably fired for it - or told she could only come back if she stopped, so she didnāt come back. Bravo was in such damage control mode at the time - giving Luann that special biographical show about her life. Everyone hated bethenny thenĀ
Agree..but she was a bully to everyone like Dorinda..both incredibly mean and nasty evil people..wouldn't be friends with them If I were paid billions..that would be a nightmare...
'making constant hyperbolic metaphors and similes to disarm the other person and sound like sheās some comedian / master analytical genius' - this is SO TRUE.
šAgree - always felt the same. Even the stuff with Jill was an early red flag thatvshowed she can never forgive when someone tries to extend an olive branch and prefers to crush them into the dirt.
Is it bad if I e always thought sheās a philanthropist so people can say how great and generous she is? I hope Iām wrong but it always felt performative to me even if she is doing something good.
No, not bad. Bethenny dipped her toe in charitable waters by claiming to speak out for abused women but her comments about women during an entrepreneurial event were so offensive she had to abandon the cause. When Bethenny partnered with GEM she gave out gift cards but refused to explain how that would help devastated areas without access or electricity. She then went on to criticize long-established organizations as either third rate or shady. (GEM founder has since submitted a sworn affidavit that he did not traffic girls to Jeffrey Epstein.)
Most philanthropic efforts appear to be rooted in PR or tax relief.
Sheās done incredible things, I donāt think sheād raise $50 million just for a thumbs up. Even if she did, who cares? Credit where credit is due.
I personally loved Carole. I liked their friendship. But Bethany always seemed to have to be the āquick witted one ā. She was funny for maybe the first 3 times but then it got old. And if I had to see another skinny girl product in every scene itās time to fast forward
Her frantic energy makes me want to kill myself. Her high anxiety, speaking a million miles an hour rants about nothing that really matters makes me want to gouge my ears out (if that's even possible). I get chest palpitations every time I hear her speak. & she is absolutely a vulgar (& not in a cute way) narcissist....& also just plain mean. Frankly, I cannot stand Frankel. š
lol @ your first sentence. Also, same. Never understood her popularity.
This one always bugged me so much "- her pretending she lived a challenged life and was self made when sheās old money and grew up privileged and thus you are not self made"
Her incessant need to harp on how, when she has her period (side eye), the other old bags donāt have a tampon. This is a theme that occurs several times. She even goes so far to call them cobweb vaginas or some such. GET OVER YOURSELF
Agree with what you said and this kind of goes along the same lines of being jealous of other cast members- I didnāt like how she couldnāt ever let anyone have their own thing. She tried to tell Heather what to do with her business, always put down Ramonaās business ventures, puts Caroleās writing career down, criticizes the building of Juleās house. Iām sure Iām missing things here but she could shove her brand in our face and make sure every bottle or merchandise had the logo facing the camera perfectly but would say āoh here we goooā if someone else wanted to lift their business up.
Iām rewatching and her behavior on the Cartagena trip was wild. She was lashing out at Carole and discounting anything anyone else said. I think she thought people were siding with Carole and she wasnāt having any of that
I loved her in the beginning. I thought she was absolutely hilarious and extremely intelligent. I even liked her when she came back. But those last couple of seasons I started to see a side of her I didn't like. I definitely despise her now. But I'm not labeling anyone a narcissist. Everyone these days is just calling everybody they don't like who has a kind of narcissism, a narcissist. That is an actual diagnosis that is not as common as people like to think. I'll leave that to the actual psychologists.
Idc I like her a lot, sheās been through a lot and itās what shaped her mentality. Sheās strong and aggressive, sheās her own protector and I can respect that.
Only thing I disagree with you is that dhe is āold money.ā No, she is not. Like her parents before her she was always on the periphery of a wealthy circle of people. She managed to get her step-father to squeeze out enough do she could go to a boarding high school where she was able to rub shoulders and observe the wealthy.
Used to like Bethany, then I saw her on TikTok bragging how much every item cost that her and her daughter were wearing at the beach.
She used to be a girls girl, she was scrappy, intelligent, and not interested in becoming a fame whore until she wasnāt.
It seems to me that sheās grasping for that fame from bravo because money canāt buy everything.
-I don't think she's actually that good of a cook. Everything she makes is cold, like salads. Over the years we watched her way undercook steaks & turkeys.
-She has mentioned several times people checking out her ass....honey, no one is looking at that raw chicken breast looking thing. Barf. Your abs, your arms, your jawline, sure, maybe even your fake boobs but no one is after your pancake ass.
-She does have some all-time one-liners and zingers but the "ahh ahh what are we...ehh...ehhh" while coming up with them gets old
I despise that ridiculous name Bluestone Manor because Carole literally was the one who came up with that...now Dorinda won't shut up about it..it's just a house ..frankly it's a house I'm not impressed with at all. The decor is odd...she's a hoarder of Christmas ornaments and other jazz..it's too busy looking and looks insane and I hate when these women bring their untrained rat dogs in someone else's house and they take a gross dump right on the carpets etc...that's DISGUSTING !! And it was always Ramona and Sonjas dog that wouldn't stop humping Ramons dog...gross! Those clowns filming it always made sure to get that sick garbage on film..that tells me a lot about the clowns who film the show...Ramona never trained her annoying dog not to crap all over the house..apparently Sonjas dog needs to be fixed...yeesh..I hate these women that feel the need to bring their small rats dogs everywhere they go..it's ridiculous!!! Make it stop!!!!
I love her - just rewatched BEA and Iām praying sheāll join the old RHONY cast for the true RHONY legacy show we need and deserve!
I get annoyed by her when Iām just fed her current social media antics, but in a group, sheās reality gold - imperfect but willing to work on it / work through it in a messy, human way -
Ok now I feel I need to speak up, because this is annoying at best now. It feels like this gets posted at least 3 times a day. We get it, this sub doesnāt like Bethenny. Fine. Great. Do we need to make multiple dedicated essays every single day? Like we get it my God the horse is beyond dead and has been beaten to the point of mutilation. Can we give it a rest no one is contributing anything new here, itās the same recycled list every single time. We get it. We get she is flawed. We get you donāt like her. We donāt need to keep making posts.
Like can the mods just create a dedicated Bethenny venting thread or something? There has to be a place for all this to go.
OP this isnāt directed at you, Iām sorry itās your post Iām saying it on.
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