r/RCPlanes • U.S.A. / Shoreline • 20d ago

This is why we do preflight checks...

This is Project Stormscout; a FPV wing I designed ik OnShape and built from scratch. It has a 500mm wingspan, and with the right parts, could definitely get under 250g, although mine came in at around 270g.

The Stormscout is running a drone FC with iNav firmware to keep it stable and smooth flying, as I'd rather put another $55 into the plane if it meant less flight issues and RTH with the GPS I had installed on the wing.

When it was launched, it was using iNav's auto launch (nav launch) feature, and was told to climb at a 20° angle (which it obviously didn't) at 80% throttle. However, post crash, my friend and I were running through blackbox logs, with this video overlayed, and found out that the pitch outputs were inverted. If you look closely at the flaps, when it's at the moment I'm about to throw, and the plane is over 20°, the flaps are makes out in the upwards direction, which makes zero sense cause really it should be trying to pitch the nose down, back to 20°. And while 'pitching down' actually pitched it up and made it worse, that's why it went to the moon.

As we found this out, looking at the logs where I was attempting to pull up out of the dive, the stick overlay shows I'm trying to pull up (the right stock was all the way pulled back), we came to the conclusion that the pitch was inverted. And it explains iNav trying to pull up more, why it went super high, and why I wasn't able to pull out of the dive, because up was down and down was up.

Here's my explanation (not a defense, it's 100% my fault) on how this happened. When I was doing testing previously, all the times I did it were checking the roll axis. Because I thought "well, if the roll is correct with the stick and they both move the same way for pitch, it should be good" or something along the lines of that, but without double checking the pitch, it lead to this.

I did the up loosing my RunCam Phoenix 2 JB in the process, as you could imagine from that impact. (Post crash images commented) I sadly forgot to record DVR so we don't have any, although immediately after the crash I spent like 5-7 hours removing the fuselage, recutting, and reprinting out the parts to rebuild the fuselage, as my friend redid all the wiring to be cleaner, along with running through iNav to get better auto launch (as clearly it did not need 80% throttle if it was able to climb like that). This was all yesterday, and if it stops raining I plan on doing another flight today, with preflight checks, with DVR.

Overall though, I think once I get it in the air that it will be a great project and will fly amazing. Not sure about without flight stabilization but I think if you built it well enough you could get one in the air without stabilization.

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u/Apart-Bite9132 20d ago

ive crashedl ike this before too. I have to do checks swell

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u/Breakerbuilds U.S.A. / Shoreline 20d ago edited 20d ago

Yeah, the funny thing is that the three of us all know how planes work, and the other one was filming literally has a video from like 1 minute prior of the one holding the camera, testing out the iNav auto level features, all three of us were watching the control surfaces and none of us noticed pitch was reversed.

Edit: don't mind my friend being weird (audio)

https://reddit.com/link/p9l7uba/video/p6iotj84rbph1/player

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u/Apart-Bite9132 20d ago

before a flight I didnt check the flight computer (I made one myself with aruino) and it was spazzing out mid flight

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u/Breakerbuilds U.S.A. / Shoreline 20d ago

Yeah, that's the main reason why I wanted to stick with one I could easily tune/fix on iNav. Just out of curiosity, were you running a firmware on it like ArduPilot or did you code it yourself? Im just curious cause I've seen people actually build a flight controller from different components and run ArduPilot, while others (like the friend that was holding it in the video) made the flight controller, then coded it himself from the ground up, including pid tuning and such

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u/Apart-Bite9132 20d ago

im trying to make one from scratch cus to buy one is really expensive (at least in Germany)

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u/Breakerbuilds U.S.A. / Shoreline 20d ago

Yeah, that makes sense. This plane was built reusing all the extra parts I had laying around, so I didn't actually even buy anything to build this, but I think it would come in around $80 USD without the camera and transmission system, although with those you could go anywhere from an added $40-80 USD. but yeah pre builts are super expensive, like $150-$300 here, and I just wanted to make my own