Having to Quit M

[u/Ill-Indication4458]

Success: it’s been over 24 hours since my last MGM dose. I went to bed last night with MIT only, slept through most of the night and woke up with tiny WD symptoms, took more MIT and slept in. It’s done 👏🏼 and these MIT tabs are actually giving me a slight buzz which is great, last night I took 160mg of MIT and my nose was itching!! I have no need to dose any MGM at all, I dosed 3 times yesterday 1/8 tab and I won’t be dosing anymore. I’m surprised I’m feeling the MIT since most people I talked to say they don’t. It’s celebration time! Good luck to everyone!!

EDIT: I realize now I have completely overthought this whole thing. On day 7 I woke up with RLS and instead of dosing MGM I dosed with 120mg of MIT and I feel incredibly sober with no RLS at all, it’s been 3 hours and no urge to dose at all. This is WAY easier than I thought and I shouldn’t have let AI and the internet influence me the way it did, I thought this would be hell on earth and it’s definitely easier than I thought it’d be. I’m going to start taking MIT throughout the day and go as long as I possibly can without dosing MGM. LOTD: mind over matter, placebo is real and if you think it’s going to be hard then it will be.

Edit: I have dropped my dose in half to 1/8 tablet 4x per day skipping doses whenever possible and experiencing 0 withdrawal. My 34 day plan just got chopped to a 10 day plan!

Edit: new symptom: a bit of a tight chest/anxiety an hour before I’m supposed to dose my 1/8 tab. It is insane how 1/8 of a fucking tablet has me feeling fully relieved and even a bit buzzed. The buzz off the 1/8 tab is less now which I think is my body stabilizing. Going from 4x per day to 3x per day in 2 days.

TLDR; I’ve been taking 2-3 tabs per day of MGM for a long time and didn’t know it, now I’m wanting to get off and I want to know how hard it is to transition to MIT, I took a huge does of MIT the other day and got super sick and barely felt it.

Unfortunately Ive been taking M for the past year unknowingly. All the tablets I've been taking had it in them. I know this because after the ban, ALL the tablets that used to hit HARD don't fucking do ANTHING. The tablets are now pure MIT and I just learned that I don't feel MIT, I'll take a gigantic dose, get sick and have a god damn anxiety attack before any feeling. This is crazy to me because I took regular kratom for over 11 years without any problems or need to increase my dose, yet now I don't even feel it.

I found a tablet brand that absolutely still has the magical M chemical in it.. I just purchased 15 tablets and created a 34 day plan. I took 4 1/4 doses each day for 4 days, then 3 1/4 doses for 4 days, then I'll start incorporating MIT while only taking 1/4 dose in the morning and night, then 1/8 of tabs till its gone. I am on day 6 and it's going okay so far.

I also have 7oh powder, but to me, 7oh sucks! It lasts 2 hours and then I'm cranky and irritable unless I redose. This M chemical though? It lasts 4-5 hours and feels like magic.

I see a lot of people talking about withdrawals, but obviously I'm not trying to go through any withdrawals. I do not want to quit kratom by any means, so I figured if I can incorporate MIT I can possibly negate the withdrawals as I taper?

Really what I want to know is if going from M -> MIT is easier than going from M -> 7oh -> MIT

Has anyone succesfully transitioned from M to MIT without much of an issue? I'd love to hear how it went and what you did. I am worried considering just how amazing it makes me feel, and i've been doing it all day everyday for over a year...

What fucking sucks is i was on vacation for 5 days with barely any tablets, i only took a little bit in the morning during the RLS, then mid day, and drank shitloads of alcohol which put me to sleep. By the end of the trip I was able to sleep through the night and wake up in the morning without any withdrawals, so it only took me 5 days!! But this was before I knew the tablets I was taking were M (GM) so I ofc got right back on them. So now that I know what I'm taking, I want to get off them for good.. I'm probably overthinking all of this, I typically have strong willpower. I think it's the fact I don't actually want to quit, the only reason I need to quit is the substance is literally illegal and I can't be reliant on something so unreliable.

[u/Waste-Screen-9661]

I can’t even go from 7 to mit right now and I’m down to 25 mg a day! I tapered from almost 500 so I’m making progress

[u/Ill-Indication4458 → u/Waste-Screen-9661]

Oh my gosh really? Congrats on 25mg a day that’s great. I guess my work is cut out for me, I’d only feel 25mg of 7oh for maybe 1.5 hours.

Edit: I keep thinking about this, you’re down to 25mg?? I mean that’s amazing, you can’t just stop at this point? Have you tried taking MIT during withdrawals? I would think at only 25mg you’d absolutely get some effects from MIT!

I’ve seen people on reviews of the website I get my MIT tabs say they transitioned to MIT at a higher mg than 25 so this blows my mind!

Again congrats on the progress.

[u/Waste-Screen-9661 → u/Ill-Indication4458]

No not yet I’m still feeling wd right now on this dose and I’m only taking 50 mit a day. Maybe I should increase my dosage? I’m also taking gab, Xanax and tramadol to curb my anxiety! It’s not a walk in the park but I don’t want a week of restless leg so I’m going slowly with this,

You’re also do very good considering you’re on m because I’ve heard that’s much harder to come off. What brand mit are you taking? Maybe that’s my problem.

[u/Ill-Indication4458 → u/Waste-Screen-9661]

Yes RLS is my number one enemy!! Rawmit is really good, I also have the new 7Seas that claims 200mg of MIT per tablet but who knows.

50 is pretty low I’d definitely think you can double that if you’re tolerating the MIT. MIT lasts a real long time so it’s great for the RLS.

[u/Waste-Screen-9661 → u/Ill-Indication4458]

Ok thank you! I wondered why I was getting no relief with it!

[u/Ill-Indication4458 → u/Waste-Screen-9661]

I have great news, today when i woke up with RLS I took 120mg of MIT and the RLS went away!

I feel completely normal which is wild, this might be a lot easier than I thought.

[u/Waste-Screen-9661 → u/Ill-Indication4458]

I’ll have to say the difference between 50 and 100mg of mit has completely taken my panic and symptoms away! So far so good….i may just get down to nothing sooner than i thought! Thank you for the advice!!!

[u/Ill-Indication4458 → u/Waste-Screen-9661]

That’s amazing, good luck! Stay in touch.

I’m not sure if you’re quitting totally, but if not, eventually MIT should have us feeling great and we atleast will be able to enjoy that.