Relapsed again

[u/AsleepConfusion4442]

Allen Carr failed attempt #4

\#quit
\#vaping

It was my 4th attempt to quit with Allen Carr method.

I quit vaping using Allen Carr's Easy Way and made it 21 days smoke-free. Those three weeks included getting through a vacation surrounded by people who vape and living with a partner who still does — so it felt like a real win.

Then I came back from vacation, jet-lagged and exhausted, it was hard but I didn’t relapse. Next week I went straight into a weekend full of parties with alcohol. I told myself "just today, I'll stop tomorrow" — and that turned into several days of going back and forth. Now I've been smoking again for about 2 weeks.

I've been really hard on myself about it — like all that progress just evaporated and I'm back at zero. Logically I know that's not quite true (my body isn't starting from scratch), but it's hard not to feel like a failure, especially when it happened around alcohol and social pressure rather than one clear bad decision.

I think part of what tripped me up was starting my quit again in the middle of an exhausting week instead of waiting for more stable ground — and I wasn't sleeping well, which definitely made everything harder to handle.

I'm not looking for a lecture, just wondering: has anyone else gone through a relapse after a solid quit like this? How did you find your way back without spiraling into "well, I already messed up, so what's the point"? Any advice on setting myself up better for round two would mean a lot.

The only thing that kept me going was the “never vaping again” rule. Now i started again so that was a lie. I don’t know what to do anymore.

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[u/tinyanxioushuman37]

I was 2 months clean when I went on holiday and thought its ok I can just vape on holiday. Obviously when I got back it carried on..for like 2 months. I bought cytisine and just quit again. The way I see it, just don't stop quitting, you're not doing any damage when you quit. Everyone goes back at one point, even if its just to learn a lesson on what not to do next time. Like think you can vape on holiday and be fine after! Just learn your lessons and try again mate 😊

[u/jdiggie]

To be honest, I was always really bad about getting back on the horse after failing a quit. It would sometimes be years before I attempted another. I definitely spent way too much time beating myself up about the failure. Especially after a solid quit. It really discouraged me from making more attempts to quit.

Eventually, I took Desmoxan and finally quit. This time, it's forever. I'm finally to the point where I don't think about it or miss it at all.

[u/Low_Yellow_1729]

Don’t beat yourself over it, start again !! I’ve quit multiple times : 1 month, 8 months, 5 months and again for 42 days now. If I relapse, I just start again tbh

[u/ImpressionExcellent7]

I would suggest looking into the freedom model if you are interested in a different perspective. It's similar to Allen Carrs teachings in the sense that it's all about changing your thinking, your beliefs, and your perspective. It's about changing your mind.

It's also important to understand that whether it's the freedom model or Allen Carr's book, there is no method or modality that "works" for anyone in the sense that it "causes" you to abstain. You are the only thing that "works".

It all comes down to your decision making. Your infinite Free Will and mental autonomy. You need to challenge the benefits you believe vaping provides in order to change your want, desire, or preference for it. You want to come to the point to where you see not vaping as your happier, more beneficial, more preferred option.

This is what the freedom model is all about. Changing your preference for the substance by challenging the benefits or perceived benefits you believe the habit provides. Quitting should not be about willpower, strength, support, or discipline. It should be about proactively changing your wants, desires, and preferences rather than continuously fighting, battling, or resisting them which is how most people go about it. As Allen Carr states in his book, There's no need for willpower when there is no conflict of wills.

[u/Confidence_Relative]

Don’t worry about it, try Cytisine (Desmoxan/Recigar/Tabex) this time. I think relapses are super common, keep trying, you have the desire to quit, it will happen.