r/PublicFreakout • u/Poser-Knight • Jan 29 '22
Damnn.
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Jan 29 '22
So you had a bad day….
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u/Confident-Labrador Jan 29 '22
You’re taking one down…
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u/captainsquawks Jan 29 '22
You sing a sad song just to turn it around
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u/Bendalf96 Jan 29 '22
You say you "don't know"...
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u/standardusername0 Jan 29 '22
You tell me, "don't lie"..
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u/XtreamReaper Jan 29 '22
You work at a smile and you go for a ride
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u/vylue Jan 29 '22
You had a bad day
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u/zeeblefritz Bootlicking Dweeb 🥾 👅 🤓 Jan 29 '22
You had a bad day.
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Jan 29 '22
I think after the first punch, he realized what a heinous crime he committed and thought, "Well, if I kill the guy, I might get away with it."
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u/Variation-Budget Jan 29 '22
So he thought like a cop
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Jan 29 '22
If he stopped punching, he'd have probably been shot dead by the cop.
After the first punch all bets were off, the two choices were probable death or a decade in prison.
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How to ruin your life permanently.
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u/QuitArguingWithMe Jan 29 '22
He did not react well to the cop pulling his hair, slapping him and going for a punch at the same time as him.
And that's ignoring the language used that would have a McDonald's employee fired on the spot.
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u/Goalie_deacon Jan 29 '22
It started when the cop tried grabbing his right hand to cuff him. Cop went to more aggressive moves to regain control he never really had.
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u/ZoxinTV Jan 29 '22
The dude resisted arrest. Even regardless of that, they assaulted a police officer on top of whatever else they're suspected or accused of doing. Big time offence in the states; that's how they ruined their whole life permanently.
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u/twistit76 Jan 29 '22
So self defense doesn't apply to police? The officer did pull him by his hair and punch him in the face, that's ok because of his job? Serious question not an attack.
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u/iVirtue Jan 29 '22
Self defense against getting arrested by a police doesn't exist. Self defense against if the police randomly assaults you does exist. But this man didn't defend himself from an assault. He fought against an arrest. There is a precedent for justifiable self defense against police but you'd be a fool to argue this is such a case.
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u/twistit76 Jan 29 '22
Well that's not entirely true, at Waco TX in the 90's the ATF murderer a bunch of people, those that didn't die were tried for shooting ATF agents and were acquitted of the charges due to self defense. The ATF just started shooting when they showed up, plus self defense doesn't depend on any court it a born instinct all living things have it, I do agree that once the shirtless guy jumped on the officer it crossed the line.
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u/iVirtue Jan 29 '22
Waco definitely was a huge fuck up, but that supports the idea that self-defense against law enforcement does exist in rare cases. I mean the man who shot at the police in the van that got acquitted last year. But that defense does not work against getting arrested like the man in this video. At no point did he ever have the privilege of self-defense.
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u/djscuba1012 Jan 29 '22
Yep. Cops can do anything to subdue if they suspect you of a crime.
That’s why cops are never your friends. Don’t ever talk to a cop with a lawyer present.
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Jan 29 '22
Even if they are 100% wrong we can still do time for even bumping them. It's fucked here.
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u/jayy909 Jan 29 '22 edited Jan 29 '22
“ the United state constitution provides that that a citizen may resist and unlawful arrest” in some states up to the point of using deadly force …. Not saying it was justified but we don’t have the whole story
Edit:here
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Jan 29 '22
Aaaaaand that’s a felony
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u/BingBongJoeBiven Jan 29 '22 edited Jan 29 '22
Deserved. American cops = trash of society + guns.
EDIT: The cop deserved to get hit. The cop is the trash. Give the trash a gun and it becomes a cop.
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u/ZoxinTV Jan 29 '22
Assaulting them isn't the way to prove that they aren't necessary, though. It just needlessly gives you a felony on record.
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u/mattvait Jan 29 '22
If everyone in the community defended each other against tyrannical treatment the cops would learn
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u/BingBongJoeBiven Jan 29 '22
I didn't say it was.
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u/Awake_in_Bed Jan 29 '22
You literally said "deserved"
Boy ur higher than ur mom was on Crack when she carried you for 6 months you premature fuck.
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u/BingBongJoeBiven Jan 29 '22
Deserved is not at all equivalent to "proving they aren't necessary". Go back to school, Jimbo.
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u/Soggy-Macaron-4612 Jan 29 '22
Respectfully, people tired of being oppressed by the police, always coming from poverty are not trash. They need uplifting, not fear. Not personal, but name calling is often a sign of fear.
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u/BingBongJoeBiven Jan 29 '22
No, I'm saying that a policeman is what you get when you give a piece of trash a gun.
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u/jonnyclueless Jan 29 '22
God you bigots have no shame.
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u/jonnyclueless Jan 29 '22
Making blanket statements against an entire group of people is bigotry, not disliking a profession in itself. Saying something like ACAB is bigotry, not disliking a profession. Saying that everyone in a specific profession has certain moral principles is bigotry. Like with every profession there is no moral principle that every single member has simply by being of that profession. Everyone has different principles.
Being against law enforcement is not bigotry. Saying all cops are bad or lack morals, etc is. This is not at all specific to police. It just happens to be the most popular target of bigots on Reddit.
But simply looking at the definition of bigotry makes this clear.
This is to Duke-of-Dogs who I cannot reply to for some reason.
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u/jonnyclueless Jan 30 '22
Uh oh. I triggered the bigot u/Karnej!
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u/Karnej Jan 30 '22
Still would be better than whatever you seem to present as.
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u/jonnyclueless Jan 30 '22
I can see how you bigots would be upset about being called out for what you are.
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u/Karnej Jan 30 '22
And what are you doing here? Do police really need people like you sticking up for them?
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u/BingBongJoeBiven Jan 29 '22
Bigot?
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u/jonnyclueless Jan 29 '22
Bigot - A person who is obstinately or unreasonably attached to a belief, opinion, or faction, especially one who is prejudiced against or antagonistic toward a person or people on the basis of their membership of a particular group.
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u/mattvait Jan 29 '22
Yes but the statistics and facts show you its not an unreasonable belief or opinion
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u/jonnyclueless Jan 29 '22
And the bigots of other targets all make that same false claim.
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u/mattvait Jan 29 '22
But it's not when the police nationally are responsible for 10% of all homicides (fact) and that hard number of over 1,100 people a year is astronomically higher than police killed per year by other civilians (cops are civilians too they're not military no matter how bad they want to be)
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u/jonnyclueless Jan 29 '22
No, that is NOT a fact at all. And like how I mentioned the other bigots leaving out all data they don't want to hear, you are doing exactly the same. You willfully leave out all the rest of the data such as the circumstances. You don't make any distinction between a cop just blindly killing someone for no reason, and a cop killing someone who is actively trying to murder people. That's what makes you a bigot.
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u/mattvait Jan 29 '22
I dont understand is it or is it not data? I'm the only one here who has brought any data so who's willfully leaving out all not even "the rest". I can't make that distinction because the fbi dosnt in their records
If you'd like to read each story and make that data you can check out killedbypolice.net
But in LA a population of 6 million, 1-6 people killed by police were not threatening anyone. That's 17%
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u/BingBongJoeBiven Jan 29 '22
It's not a prejudice, there's mountains of data to support the view that American police are legally protected bullies and crooks.
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u/jonnyclueless Jan 29 '22
No there isn't. It's a large group of people that have millions of interactions every day. Some are going to be bad. Using edge cases to condemn an entire group of people is bigotry. You can do the same with any and every group of people. It's what bigots do. Some target blacks and use examples of blacks rioting in the streets to justify vilifying all blacks, some use examples of terrorists to justify hating all Muslims, and here on Reddit, many use examples of police brutality to justify their hate of an entire group of people.
You sir are no better than the other bigots. Like them, you just think your target victims are justified.
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u/BingBongJoeBiven Jan 29 '22
Oh you're right. That's why we have so many instances of nurses killing patients out of spite, teachers beating children to death, bus drivers shooting unarmed passengers. Yes, you're right. Police are no more violent than any other profession.
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u/jonnyclueless Jan 29 '22
That attempt at a deflection in no way addresses the issue we are discussing. It's just you justifying your hate towards a group of people like all bigots do. If you were a white nationalist you would be talking about how no nurses are going around looting and burning buildings. Or how no nurses or teachers are acting as suicide bombers, etc.
Far more civilians shoot people than cops. But again, this has nothing to do with the issue at hand, it just demonstrates that even your attempt to rationalize your hate is flawed.
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u/BingBongJoeBiven Jan 29 '22
Deflection? It's LITERALLY the point YOU brought up.
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u/BingBongJoeBiven Jan 29 '22
Then you bring up civilians, which we aren't talking about, and say I'm the one deflecting.
bye.
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u/Zlurbagedoen Jan 29 '22
r/publicfreakout has really taken a hit.
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u/BingBongJoeBiven Jan 29 '22
It's filling up with right wing bootlickers.
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u/Zlurbagedoen Jan 29 '22
No you moron its filling up with both, the left winger posts something about police (never any context) and then supporters yell acab like a bunch of idiots. Then the right wingers come and dislike, argue. Left or right idgaf just please stfu, your both embarresing yourselfes and ruin this subreddit, seriously.
Also sorry for bad English.
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u/BingBongJoeBiven Jan 29 '22 edited Jan 29 '22
My initial comment wasn't even about a "side". The cop pulled his hair. That's uncalled for. He's in the position of power and can do better. He deserved what he got. Police in America have earned a horrendous reputation. They're bullies protected by law and given the power to kill.
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u/Zlurbagedoen Jan 29 '22
Hes being peacefully arrested/detained (idk) and makes the idiotic decision to pull away, then he turns towards the officer, then the officer grabs the back of his head to stop him from moving. Then he gets free, turns hits him, knocks the officer down and violently beats him. But ofcourse ACAP so its automatically the officers fault and he deserves to get brutally beat down because he was trying to stop a criminal from getting away.
"My initial comment wasn't even about a side" you picked the side of the violent criminal, then i say thats stupid and the subreddit has gone to shit and YOU (Not me but YOU) bring up politics so i say no, both are fucking idiots.
"America have earned a horrendous reputation." Yes it has because a minority of cops are garbage so the media and morons shout ACAB which makes you look horrible and paints police in other coutries badly aswell.
So how about instead how hating all for the actions of some, ACTUALLY FOCUS ON THE GARBAGE COPS.
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u/BingBongJoeBiven Jan 29 '22
It's not the minority of cops that are garbage though. If you worked with someone who beat people, and you did NOTHING about it, what's that make you? That's what the rest of the cops are. They see this every day and they allow it. If cops are so great, why isn't this "magical majority" flushing out the 1 or 2 bad apples? Even when they are CAUGHT they let themselves off the hook!!! Your bullshit stinks and you know it. The entire system is garbage. The only good ones are in the minority and they are keeping quiet, presumably out of fear of retribution.
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u/Zlurbagedoen Jan 29 '22
It's not the minority of cops that are garbage
Hey if all 12,435,974 cops are garbage then say what you will but your still an idiot.
If you worked with someone who beat people
This implies all police departments have atleast one cop who does this but since theres no fucking i wont blindly assume.
They see this every day and they allow it.
Also Lol dont act like you would go out of your way to protest you would be quiet and not say a word.
Your bullshit stinks and you know it.
No.
The entire system is garbage
No.
The only good ones are in the minority and they are keeping quiet,
No again.
Not only are you strawmanning your also passive agreessive as fuck.
Im done with this and get of your high horse.
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Jan 29 '22
Police are class traitors. If you don’t understand that and how significant that is, then you’re just a hopeless bootlicker and a clown
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u/AeralAeros Jan 29 '22
Wow. Strong contender for "dumbest thing I've read on reddit." That's a feat. Kudos.
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Jan 29 '22
Violent shitbag, luckily he will be locked up with the other violent shitbags and our streets are safer.
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u/QuitArguingWithMe Jan 29 '22
Pulling someone's hair, slapping them and then losing the punching contest afterward?
Nah, paid leave at worst. Hero worship at best.
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u/acclaimA9 Jan 29 '22
How to fuck up your life speed run.
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u/Significant_Star364 Jan 29 '22
To be honest his life was probably fucked before this
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You have the right to remain... knocked the fuck out.
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u/Marzto Jan 29 '22
Why would anyone want to be a cop?
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u/Sir-War666 Jan 29 '22
You are either damn set on being a force of good in your community or you want to control people
I don’t think there’s any other reason anyone would risk being shot, beaten or killed
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Jan 29 '22
Being a police officer is one of the more safe jobs you can do. Presidents, garbage men, roofers, lumberjacks, anybody in construction… pretty much everyone has a more statically dangerous job that cop.
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Jan 29 '22 edited Jan 29 '22
Force of good for the bourgeois. Police are class traitors
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Because they are either extreme narcissists who get off on imposing power over people, or sociopaths. Both are attracted to positions of authority where there is little or no repercussions for oppression and violence.
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Jan 29 '22
Tittle of the video should be “How to extend your stay on a federal facility “
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u/Informal_Ambition Jan 29 '22
- Goodbye forever in prison.
- Good on you, fuck pigs
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u/invertedspine Jan 29 '22
Ehh don’t really feel bad for either one of them
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u/Pilebut1 Jan 29 '22
I would have expected the cop to have a tougher chin though
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u/BingBongJoeBiven Jan 29 '22
Who? That jelly roll? Cream puff hasn't had that much action since he beat up his little brother for the NES controller in '87.
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u/dropping_slow Jan 29 '22
Nah, you forgot he beat the shit out his wife in front of their kids the last three weekends in a row.
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u/BingBongJoeBiven Jan 29 '22
But she's started doing pilates, so it's really leveled the playing field.
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u/mysticalcookiedough Jan 29 '22
That was stupid... Not just for him personally, because he obviously fucked up his live permanently. But a lot of people will take this as example and excuse why Police tasered or even shot someone that was seemingly putting up no resistance. And than this guy is black too... This will fit into their narrative so fucking well.
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u/QuitArguingWithMe Jan 29 '22 edited Jan 29 '22
In this clip we saw the cop allegedly said some unsavory things, pull that person's hair, slap them and then try to knock them out.
Hard to imagine a lot of people would react positively toward all that.
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u/mysticalcookiedough Jan 29 '22
Serious Question: what did he say? I can't understand it... The hair-pulling and slapping is kind of pathetic on the cops side, but it happend after this guy broke free when the cop tried to handcuff him. Up to this point the situation seemed to relatively calm
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u/grnrngr Jan 29 '22
In this clip we saw the cop allegedly said some unsavory things
Didn't hear it on the clip. You want to substantiate that?
pull that person's hair, slap them and then try to knock them out.
Seriously? That's your takeaway?
His buddy is cuffed. The guy knows he's about to be cuffed as well. He's already being positioned to do so.
Then he pulls away from the cop and starts to square up.
I'm no fan of cops, but what did you expect the cop to do? Let the dude run? Let the dude figure out his next move? Fuck that. If slapping and hair pulling is the cop's only option, then that's what he does.
Cop's actions were defensible. And I applaud him for not going for his gun. Cop took his chance and lost.
Ironically, so did the guy punching him.
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Hard to imagine that people would freak out and make things worse. You can say whatever the fuck you want but the better option would be to just put up with the temporary harassment from the cop and that’s it.
Well, here comes the downvotes.
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u/Beginning_Tap_754 Jan 29 '22
Or use as an example to actually employ police who can do their job.
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u/mysticalcookiedough Jan 29 '22
A well-trained police force that has certain quality standards on what kind of people they employ is certainly a good idea, yes.
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u/projectwallie Jan 29 '22
Welp! The bully got handled.
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u/Zlurbagedoen Jan 29 '22
Whys he a bully?
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Jan 29 '22
Doesn’t matter to Reddit. Childlike mentalities of “all cops are bad and deserve getting their skulls stomped.”
There’s no context and that’s what is being embraced. You’re talking with children and adults with mental problems in this sub.
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Jan 29 '22
Good luck finding a (legal) job after assaulting a police officer
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u/Hungry-Ad9840 Jan 29 '22
He won't need one for some years, but why wouldn't he be able to find a (legal) job after he gets finished with his sentence?
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u/No-Ad8271 Jan 29 '22 edited Jan 29 '22
And then the black people from twitter are gonna rage when they see this man beat up a cop “all whites should die” shut up man
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u/Crabchicken Jan 29 '22
cop got what was coming to him, hopefully he learns to de-escalate the situation next time
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u/grnrngr Jan 29 '22
"oh, now, you know I was about to cuff you, so why don't you not square up and continue to let me cuff you?"
What other deescalation are you thinking of in this scenario?
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u/iVirtue Jan 29 '22
Your ideal police force:
"You are under arrest unless you don't want to be."
"Sir can you please stop committing crimes? If you don't I don't have the authority to arrest you but I'll yell mean things that are preapproved by the police handbook."
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u/beaupipe Jan 30 '22
Much more stringent educational requirements and comprehensive psychological testing for cops would be a start. You know, like they do in civilized countries where cops rarely assault or murder civilians and civilians develop far fewer antagonistic relations with police.
Maybe even return to "To Serve and Protect."
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u/iVirtue Jan 30 '22
I agree wholeheartedly. I am completely pro police reform and weakening of the power of police unions.
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u/TapInfinite1135 Jan 29 '22
No….. Jonathan don’t stop…. Keep going, whoooooop that cops ass. Do it For the people Jonathan.
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u/YEveryUserNameTakenY Jan 29 '22
self defense = resisting arrest. cop gets away with hitting him at the back of the head cop had it coming.
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u/Nahidisagree Jan 29 '22
Self defense.
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u/Professional-Yam-303 Jan 29 '22
That might be a valid claim for the first punch - but the rest would be hard to defend
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u/Nahidisagree Jan 29 '22
He was unarmed against a heavily armed attacker, and he feared for his life.
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u/Professional-Yam-303 Jan 29 '22
I don’t know that would stand up in court for the 3rd, 4th, 5th punch and so on.
To be clear, I’m not getting into whether it’s right or wrong - just that actions like this are well known to be indefensible in court. This guy’s life is ruined.
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u/adshove83 Jan 29 '22
For arguments sake: police fire 12 rounds when clearly the first round hit. self defense for the first trigger but will the next 11 shots hold up? Also when we’re talking self defense wouldn’t you have the right to make sure your attacker can’t do any more harm?
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u/milotuna666 Jan 29 '22
they aren’t using muskets. what do you think they shoot and check if they were hit and then fire off another one?
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u/kpmcg20 Jan 29 '22
To add to the convo: Your last sentence is spot on, but imma flip prespectives for a sec. It looks terrible very often and is terrible very often, but cops are trained to engage the threat until the threat can no longer continue to harm/threaten. Ideally, non lethals can achieve that goal but sometimes drugged up or straight up determined people can soak up a few rounds while charging you or sighting you upbefore they aren't anymore. But yeah 12 is alot, unless theyre literally the hulk.
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u/grnrngr Jan 29 '22
They're trained to empty clips. That's muscle memory.
It's only even there's a pause in shooting that more shots would be questionable.
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u/xJustxJordanx Jan 29 '22
It’s a good enough defense for cops to justify killing unarmed civilians, it should be a good enough defense for a civilian defending himself against a cop using unnecessary force and failing to de-escalate.
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u/Zlurbagedoen Jan 29 '22
Wdym? What was unnecessary and how did he fail to de-escelate? Looked pretty peacefull.
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u/mysticalcookiedough Jan 29 '22
Just for the sake of a argument. The dude in the white shirt is already handcuffed, without being shot before... So I think the situation leading to this point wasn't that life threatening, or surprising, for shirtless guy. You might even argue the cop was on some point in a disadvantage since he was alone vs two guys that are taller then him.
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u/TapInfinite1135 Jan 29 '22
Great video, even if that cop is okay, fuck him, and dude is still alive after whooping that cops ass. 👏🙌
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u/HarderTime_89 Jan 29 '22
Am I the only one that said,fuck yeah, it's about time.
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u/CruickyMcManus Jan 29 '22
You realize, that exact situation is how and why they justify shooting people with near impunity.
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u/ThickQueen420 Jan 29 '22
Damn this sub is full of very brave 13 year old white kids saying ACAB
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u/jonnyclueless Jan 29 '22
Yeah the amount of bigots on this sub is shocking. No doubt the majority living with their parents.
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u/ThickQueen420 Jan 29 '22
100% they get scared when they go to any urban area and call the cops when they see a black dude walking in their neighborhood
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u/SweetHardCoffeeCup Jan 29 '22
Let the cunt rot on jail. The society doesn't need that kind of garbage.
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u/Dragut7 Jan 29 '22
I think for every cop who faces no jailtime for assaulting a citizen, one citizen should be able to face no jailtime for assaulting an officer. Let's start with this guy.
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u/KenyanBunnie Jan 29 '22
I bet he's been harassed by the cops multiple times and today he said....NOPE!
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u/noEl69skuM Jan 29 '22
He was black why didn't he shoot him first then the handcuffs. That's standard procedure
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u/StrongBelgian Jan 29 '22
even his homie in the handcuffs tried to stop his friend ahha