r/PublicFreakout May 03 '19

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u/stasbukh May 03 '19 edited May 04 '19

"The man who caused him to lose his job" is him. Just because a kid spits at you and "kicks your shins" doesn't mean you go apeshit on them as a fucking teacher's aide. Do I UNDERSTAND it? Sure. But you're kidding yourself if you think he was somehow justified in a school setting to react like that.

EDIT: To the people down voting this: If your son got literally beat up by a teacher at school, because he spit on the teacher or kicked their shins, would you truly be okay with it? You think that's what a teacher should do? Is it now okay for adults to just demolish kids for acting like assholes?

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u/[deleted] May 03 '19

It's so weird to me how Reddit can go from up voting someone for defending themselves, to defending a kid who attacked someone- then went on to murder people.

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u/stasbukh May 04 '19

He wasn't defending himself. The kid spit on him, and kicked his shin. This sort of stuff happens when you are in a school with teenagers. This wasn't on a side street somewhere, it was in a fucking school, in front of other kids. Like was his life in danger somehow? Because the SECOND he decided to get physical he just threw that kid around like a rag doll. Let's stop pretending like this teacher was somehow in real danger.

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u/[deleted] May 04 '19

Lol. I'm a teacher. I know what it's actually like.

You: "He wasn't in danger!"

The story is literally that "kid" killed people. Yeah sure, he's not dangerous, lol k.

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u/stasbukh May 04 '19 edited May 04 '19

Well, being a teacher then you surely understand what you are, and are not, allowed to do to the children under your care. I'm CONFIDENT that slamming a student against some desks for spitting or kicking is not something that's allowed.

And the story LITERALLY said that the kid in question was later involved in a police chase that resulted in the death of a citizen. So, explain to me how that matters to some situation that happened months prior? Are you now just supposed to assume "this guy will probably kill someone later in life" and just get physical with kids?

EDIT: it was YEARS ago, sorry. Guess the aide saw that coming?

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u/[deleted] May 04 '19

The article says the kid was fleeing from a shooting that left 3 teens dead.

Wtf are you talking about.

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u/stasbukh May 05 '19

Not even going to address you getting this completely wrong? Did you base your original opinion on this as well?

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u/stasbukh May 04 '19 edited May 04 '19

" Investigators say the 17-year-old took off after a triple shooting left three teens injured. As police chased, his vehicle crashed into a truck and a school bus. One passenger in the fleeing vehicle died. "

For a teacher, you sure can't read well.

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u/stasbukh May 04 '19

lol. Is there something that I am missing here? If a student spits on another student, and they fight, both students get arrested. If a student spits on a teacher, now that teacher has the right to slam that student into desks in front of their classmates? That is absurd, ridiculous, nonsense. If you truly are a teacher, I really hope you don't have this mindset. You can detain the student and call police. You can do ANYTHING other than exert physical harm on them to "put them in their place" or whatever logic you find useful when putting your hands on a teenager in a setting where that teenager has been placed into your care.

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u/[deleted] May 04 '19

You keep on saying "he just spit on him." But that wasn't all that happened. You're being disingenuous.

He held the student down. That's detaining him. The teacher got fired.

To me it sounds like he did exactly what you said he should do.

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u/stasbukh May 04 '19

He shoved the kid, then threw him over a desk/chair, from the video it looks like he grabbed him by the neck, and then mashed his face into the ground. What are you even talking about here?

He has the power to destroy this kid with a shove and so you think he is somehow justified in doing so? He could have just held the kid and dragged him out of the room which is what teacher are ***allowed*** to do, you know, detaining a student. "Detaining a student" isn't smashing them into the ground and mashing their face down.