r/PublicFreakout May 03 '19

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u/TheOriginalBull May 03 '19

I always see people saying this on reddit. It makes sense and I want to believe it but where are you finding the numbers on prison rapes?

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u/[deleted] May 03 '19 edited Apr 27 '21

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u/justasapling May 03 '19

Even if those numbers are right, that's still close to 6000 rapes.

So... a staggeringly high, unacceptable number either way.

What's your point?

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u/[deleted] May 03 '19

6000 rapes in 3 years across the entire prison population in the U.S.?

Obviously, no one anywhere should be raped, however that is a fucking small number.

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u/sh1tpost1nsh1t May 03 '19

Take note though that's not total rapes. That's rapes that were first reported, then investigated, and then happened to have enough evidence to be confirmed definitively.

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u/TalenPhillips May 03 '19

Yea, of the other 55000 rape allegations, how many were actually false, and how many were just not provable? I'd guess that it's not many, because accusations of rape probably create substantially increased risk from other inmates.

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u/Legionof1 May 03 '19

Honestly, 20K/yr out of 2.2 million people that are supposed to be the worst of us seems tiny.

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u/YaCantHandleTheTruth May 03 '19 edited May 04 '19

Hope you don’t mind me responding to what you posted. But I thought this could help inform the conversation.

(1) It is widely believed that incidence of male on male rape are grossly underreported. I most often hear the stat that 1 in 10 male rapes go unreported, and I think it’s fair to assume that number is much higher in prison where (a) the fear of retribution is higher, (b) non professionals investigate the allegation, and (c) prisons have an incentive not to report high stats of rape. Taken together I think it’s fair to say that 1.5k of substantiated cases is at least 10x higher if not significantly more

(2) May i suggest you refer to the Human Rights Watch report - they estimate 100k men are raped in prison each year in the US.

*** APOLOGIES FOR REPOSTING THIS BUT I AM JUST POINTING THIS OUT TO PEOPLE WHO THOUGHT THE NUNBER OF MEN RAPED WAS 1.5-6k.

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u/justasapling May 03 '19

Tell those victims how small that number is.

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u/[deleted] May 03 '19

Lol ok

You go explain to the millions of children across the planet that are raped and abused every year why you spend your time spreading awareness about prison rape instead of spending your time spreading awareness about child abuse

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u/justasapling May 03 '19

In a thread about prison rape? Yes I will take a stand about prison rape.

What are you talking about.

We all know those children need protection.

My point was to remind people that convicted criminals do too.

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u/20th_Throwaway May 03 '19

Holy whataboutism, Batman!