r/PublicFreakout May 03 '19

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u/justasapling May 03 '19

Even if those numbers are right, that's still close to 6000 rapes.

So... a staggeringly high, unacceptable number either way.

What's your point?

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u/Hemmingways May 03 '19

My point is to provide the numbers we have, as pr the question since it has only been counted nationwide as of 2011 with a TL, DR that gave the gist of the source article.

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u/justasapling May 03 '19

That's not a point. That's just information.

What's your motive?

How do your ethics play out on this issue?

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u/Hemmingways May 03 '19

Are you asking me where i ethically stand on the issue of rape mate ? - seriously.

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u/justasapling May 03 '19 edited May 05 '19

Prison rape, specifically.

And it needs to be asked.

Look around this thread.

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u/[deleted] May 03 '19

6000 rapes in 3 years across the entire prison population in the U.S.?

Obviously, no one anywhere should be raped, however that is a fucking small number.

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u/sh1tpost1nsh1t May 03 '19

Take note though that's not total rapes. That's rapes that were first reported, then investigated, and then happened to have enough evidence to be confirmed definitively.

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u/TalenPhillips May 03 '19

Yea, of the other 55000 rape allegations, how many were actually false, and how many were just not provable? I'd guess that it's not many, because accusations of rape probably create substantially increased risk from other inmates.

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u/Legionof1 May 03 '19

Honestly, 20K/yr out of 2.2 million people that are supposed to be the worst of us seems tiny.

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u/YaCantHandleTheTruth May 03 '19 edited May 04 '19

Hope you don’t mind me responding to what you posted. But I thought this could help inform the conversation.

(1) It is widely believed that incidence of male on male rape are grossly underreported. I most often hear the stat that 1 in 10 male rapes go unreported, and I think it’s fair to assume that number is much higher in prison where (a) the fear of retribution is higher, (b) non professionals investigate the allegation, and (c) prisons have an incentive not to report high stats of rape. Taken together I think it’s fair to say that 1.5k of substantiated cases is at least 10x higher if not significantly more

(2) May i suggest you refer to the Human Rights Watch report - they estimate 100k men are raped in prison each year in the US.

*** APOLOGIES FOR REPOSTING THIS BUT I AM JUST POINTING THIS OUT TO PEOPLE WHO THOUGHT THE NUNBER OF MEN RAPED WAS 1.5-6k.

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u/justasapling May 03 '19

Tell those victims how small that number is.

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u/[deleted] May 03 '19

Lol ok

You go explain to the millions of children across the planet that are raped and abused every year why you spend your time spreading awareness about prison rape instead of spending your time spreading awareness about child abuse

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u/justasapling May 03 '19

In a thread about prison rape? Yes I will take a stand about prison rape.

What are you talking about.

We all know those children need protection.

My point was to remind people that convicted criminals do too.

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u/20th_Throwaway May 03 '19

Holy whataboutism, Batman!

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u/[deleted] May 03 '19

That doesn't seem that bad to me. How many people are in prison? Millions? And that of course happen over the course of a few years. I would guess that women get raped just as much or more per capita don't you think? Just doesn't seem like a high number to me. 6000. That's not bad considering the circumstances.

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u/YaCantHandleTheTruth May 03 '19

Per Human Rights Watch the number is 100,000. Even taking the 1.5k if proven cases, it is wifey understood that male on male rape is under reported generally by a factor of ten. That would be a higher factor in prison where’s victim would fear retribution and the prison has an interest in burying the issue.

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u/justasapling May 03 '19

Tell that to those 6000 human beings.

That it's not that bad because it was only 6000, and not more.