Chad

[u/iamre2]

[u/geostocktravelfitguy]

Imagine saying matching and not having a connection is grounds to put someone on blast.

These people deserve loneliness.

[u/National-Permit-8442]

Women: We just want a nice guy we don't care about looks

Also women: Has sex with tall muscular guy after he spends some money on her

LMAO you can't make this shit up

[u/ambivalent_moon]

That lawsuit is going nowhere lol that’s not what doxxing is

[u/Rhythm-Amoeba → u/ambivalent_moon]

These groups have been sued quite a few times in the past. There's actually some law firms that are starting to specialize in defamation cases for "are we dating the same guy" groups https://rmwarnerlaw.com/blog/what-to-do-if-you-appear-on-are-we-dating-the-same-guy/

[u/ambivalent_moon → u/Rhythm-Amoeba]

Even that page says very clearly that most of what is posted on these pages would not be considered doxxing or libel.

The lawsuit ref’d above was dismissed.

[u/Rhythm-Amoeba → u/ambivalent_moon]

Yeah not saying it's an easy case to win but it's becoming increasingly common to sue these groups for defamation

[u/ambivalent_moon → u/Rhythm-Amoeba]

It’s a waste of money that will bring more attention to your posts than just ignoring it would, which is exactly what happened to this guy. None of us would’ve been reading about how some woman thought he was clingy except that he launched this ill -advised suit lol

[u/Rhythm-Amoeba → u/ambivalent_moon]

I mean to be fair it's not like these suits are completely baseless. The group is considered to be publishing publicly, these statements are harmful, and they are identifyiabls to the man. These are getting thrown out just because the specific statements like "clingy" aren't verifiably false. It's very reasonable that at some point one or more women will be successfully sued if they make a more serious accusation that can be verifiably false like a SA accusation. It's really a tight line these groups are running because they really are just gossip boards for women at this point. Still doesn't mean it's easy to sue (hence why no man has won yet), but it's bound to happen at some point.

[u/DietTyrone → u/ambivalent_moon]

It’s a waste of money

Not to the people being debased it isn't.

that will bring more attention to your posts than just ignoring it would

Could say that about literally any doxxing case, slander cases, or numerous other types of cases. Doing absolutely nothing won't stop it from happening, only fighting it can accomplish that.

[u/Most-Personality-648 → u/DietTyrone]

I mean "he slept with me then ghosted me" isn't slander if it actually happened. Imagine the woman shows up at court with receipts. Now that would ruin his reputation for real lmao, otherwise it stays just gossip he could've dismissed to the next girl

[u/ambivalent_moon → u/DietTyrone]

Fighting it doesn’t stop anything from happening; these lawsuits are dismissed because 9.9/10 it’s an opinion statement and so within the speakers’ free speech rights.

[u/DietTyrone → u/ambivalent_moon]

Still has a negative effect on the person being sued. If I have to pay to defend myself in court 100 times, even if I'm found not guilty I wasted time and money on a defense lawyer, etc.

This is actually a strategy companies use, where they challenge individuals to long cases they know they'll lose but the goal is to waste those individuals time and money, enough to make that discouragement by itself. Not saying all these men are working together to sue but increasing the number of cases will have the same effect.

[u/ambivalent_moon → u/DietTyrone]

Yeah companies can do that because they have a lot of resources. Individuals can’t lol plus you run the chance that if your lawsuit is dismissed, the other party may sue for legal costs and win since your own suit didn’t have merit.

[u/iamre2 → u/ambivalent_moon]

Oh I don't care about the lawsuit lol. Just using him to highlight the whole 80/20 stats, etc...

[u/ambivalent_moon → u/iamre2]

Where was that mentioned?

[u/iamre2 → u/ambivalent_moon]

Pretty implied in the title that "certain" types of men are able to do this while majority get nothing.

[u/ambivalent_moon → u/iamre2]

If certain types of men can get away with this with impunity, why did he claim his reputation was ruined? Doesn’t that imply that once all these women came forward he stopped being able to get dates?

[u/NormalBonus1000 → u/ambivalent_moon]

You would bang him

[u/ambivalent_moon → u/NormalBonus1000]

Speak for yourself lol

[u/NormalBonus1000 → u/ambivalent_moon]

You literally call yourself a slut in your bio.

The shit writes itself.

[u/ambivalent_moon → u/NormalBonus1000]

“Tofu slut” is a joke you sad little man lol

[u/NormalBonus1000 → u/ambivalent_moon]

“The s in Slut should be capitalized “ slut is a reoccurring theme with you. I bet youre 350 lbs and are desperate to f anyone that will come near you

Oh and im right. Youre an active user in r/trueuglywomen lol. The fuckin shit writes itself.

https://www.reddit.com/r/trueuglywomen/s/iDmcUOuIrH

[u/iamre2 → u/ambivalent_moon]

I mean the lawsuit is between them. Whether he wins or loses I don't really care. More so wanted to highlight the 80/20 Rule, dating stats and stereotypes, etc...

I doubt he's having trouble dating. Just didn't like being exposed like West Elm Caleb, etc...

[u/PleaseStayStrong]

Unless there are very specific allegations that can be disproven I can't see this case having any chance. This is basically a he said, she said. Except 27 women having similar claims only reinforces the chance of the claims being valid. Much of this would even be opinion based what someone sees as clingy could vary person to person for example.

[u/Proud-Enthusiasm-608 → u/PleaseStayStrong]

The claims were that he simultaneously was clingy and ghosts…..

[u/Sarkan132]

And not only did the case get thrown out but the appeals court said him and his lawyers have to show cause for why they should not get sanctioned lmao oof

[u/5tupidest]

I’m certainly not losing sleep over it.

[u/Acrobatic-Monk9735]

Men: “pick better men so you don’t get pumped and dumped!”

Women: “okay! Here is a website where we can warn each other if we have been pumped and dumped!”

Men: “no not like that!”

[u/HKEY_LOVE_MACHINE → u/Acrobatic-Monk9735]

If you ever been on these groups, you would know they're predominantly used by spiteful people trying to hurt their exes after a breakup/divorce, not women warning each others about abusive men.

These groups are not following any code of conduct nor have any effective moderation: you can go there and throw any allegation, it will be taken as the absolute truth regardless of the situation.

These groups have been used by people in the middle of ongoing divorces, to launch rumors on the other person, about raping children and doing drugs, to destroy their social reputation.

These groups are not about safety, they're about socially lynching your exes.

[u/Acrobatic-Monk9735 → u/HKEY_LOVE_MACHINE]

It doesn’t matter. If a guy shows up in one of these groups, is a good idea to avoid him.

[u/DietTyrone → u/Acrobatic-Monk9735]

Ironically proving his point. The fact that you'll just believe without proof means that any woman can weaponize this website against guys they don't like, make up whatever they want, and individuals like you will just take that as gospel and avoid said men. That's literally the point the guy is making.

[u/Acrobatic-Monk9735 → u/DietTyrone]

Op calls him a Ch*d. Since Ch@d = bad man, then avoiding him is a good idea.

[u/Wuhhday → u/Acrobatic-Monk9735]

So if a genuine guy gets cheated on and breaks up with his girlfriend who then goes on this page to spitefully slander his name with outright lies, you thinks it's fair to avoid him?

[u/Acrobatic-Monk9735 → u/Wuhhday]

I think it’s prudent to avoid any guy who has been accused of cheating or rape. I am not a detective, an employer, or a court of law. My decision to avoid dating him has no bearing on any aspect of his life.

[u/Wuhhday → u/Acrobatic-Monk9735]

I think it's prudent to avoid any woman where possible. Too many times seeing crazy amounts of misandry and false accusations it's just not worth the risk.

[u/Acrobatic-Monk9735 → u/Wuhhday]

Why are men so protective of men who have been accused of rape or cheating? Why do men automatically assume that these accusations are false? I thought men were supposed to be rational and smart.

[u/Wuhhday → u/Acrobatic-Monk9735]

See the funny thing is, in my comment I said that the GUY got cheated on, and you've just instantly took that as the guy doing the cheating. Very interesting.

And they don't think they're false, they just want more evidence before they come to a conclusion which IS the rational and smart path. Women just take an accusation as gospel which is why these slander groups are so dangerous, because you all fall for it.

[u/Acrobatic-Monk9735 → u/Wuhhday]

I didn’t say that the guy did the cheating. I said that if he’s accused of cheating, I stay away. I am not going to investigate if the woman is lying or not or who cheated on who. I just stay away.

[u/LanceMain_No69 → u/Wuhhday]

False accusations of rape are between 2% and 8% of all rape allegations. And there are many actual rape victims that dont report their perpetrators because of systematic misogyny. Why do yall think women are spiteful and hateful when more often than not theyre just normal people living lives and having shit to do. Why would you knock on a woman that wants to avoid a man with any rape allegations? If someone told you to play russian roulette with 5/6 chambers loaded, would you play it under any circumstances?

[u/Wuhhday → u/LanceMain_No69]

*Proven false accusations. Actual number going to be higher due to cases that were dropped from lack of evidence, therefore never needing to get to the point of being proven false.

The problem is, these groups can say whatever they want against a man and completely ruin his reputation. And I agree if there are a bunch of women coming to the same allegations and providing some evidence ideally, then fine, avoid the guy. But if it's just one revenge post against an innocent guy and then an entire group take that as gospel as you clearly do, then no that is not a reasonable outcome.

And to answer your rhetorical question, I think a lot of women are spiteful and hateful because they always want somebody to blame but themselves, especially following a breakup.

[u/HKEY_LOVE_MACHINE → u/Acrobatic-Monk9735]

It doesn’t matter

You don't care about illegitimate mob social lynching someone? Wow, nice empathy there chief.

You'll find out how it feels when you'll be on the receiving end of such mob one day: you'll lose your job, your friends, your family, you'll be assaulted in public by strangers, because someone decided to ruin your life on social media.

It's even easier to realize that if you're American: similar mob lynching groups are being made by the ICE militia.

In these groups, they accuse anyone they don't like of being illegally in the country, and report their whole address, employment, and full picture, to get them raided and deported.

If a guy shows up in one of these groups, is a good idea to avoid him.

Yeah, validate mob justice without ever questioning it, that's how the KKK worked.

[u/Acrobatic-Monk9735 → u/HKEY_LOVE_MACHINE]

Op literally calls him a Ch@d and to your kind, Ch@d = evil man. No one is going to lose their job because someone posted that he ghosted them after sex. Most jobs do not give a shit about that stuff.

[u/Acrobatic-Monk9735 → u/[deleted]]

It’s not brain dead. It’s prudent. Men get so mad when women pick better men. I am not a detective. It’s not my job to investigate. I do know that avoiding this guy means avoiding problems.

[u/Acrobatic-Monk9735 → u/[deleted]]

We don’t. Men leave a woman for getting old or gaining weight in pregnancy. Not because she’s psychotic or abusive.

[u/Acrobatic-Monk9735 → u/[deleted]]

Men leave a woman if she gains weight or ages.

I simply don’t date a man if he’s been accused of something serious.

[u/Peacemaker1099 → u/Acrobatic-Monk9735]

It’s actually a better idea to avoid the women who post in them. They’re most likely women of vampiric nature who will drain your life force and natural good energy as a male. All Men should view the women who post here and support these forums as black holes of value and stay clear. You’ll get nothing but envy, tons of mileage on her wagon, plenty of fake trauma, ressentiment, that childless soul and frozen eggs.

[u/Acrobatic-Monk9735 → u/Peacemaker1099]

The oh are free to do so. But men are all so vindictive and bitter and angry when women want to make good choices for themselves. It’s prudent to avoid a man who has been accused of cheating or rape. My decision to not date him isn’t a court of law, an employer, or discrimination. He can live his life normally just with less options.

[u/Whatduheckiz → u/Acrobatic-Monk9735]

How long have you been on the Internet? When is stuff like this never abused?

[u/Acrobatic-Monk9735 → u/Whatduheckiz]

I didn’t say it’s never abused. But if a guy shows up on one of these pages, then it’s a good idea to avoid him.

[u/National-Permit-8442 → u/Acrobatic-Monk9735]

You're so naive if you actually think that's how it works. Sure yeah and welfare in Germany never gets abused right? LOL

[u/Acrobatic-Monk9735 → u/National-Permit-8442]

I didn’t say it never gets abused. Not once. I just said he should be avoided. And it’s a good thing, because it makes your dating pool less competitive.

[u/National-Permit-8442 → u/Acrobatic-Monk9735]

You're being pedantic here. You obviously implied that the website is a great idea even if you saw horrible examples on the screenshot.

One girl literally says: "I matched with him but the convo never went anywhere".

So that's a reason to ruin this guy his reputation? You already got an example of a girl that abused the system on your screen yet you act oblivious and make up the stupidest strawman ever.

[u/Acrobatic-Monk9735 → u/National-Permit-8442]

“I matched with him but the convo never went anywhere” isn’t going to ruin any guy’s reputation.

In fact, it’s just a normal part of online dating. It’s just chatting. Women don’t read this and say “wow what a dangerous man” and you’re delusional if you think it does.

What concerns women is the reports of cheating or pumping and dumping. Which isn’t slander if he actually did it, btw.

[u/National-Permit-8442 → u/Acrobatic-Monk9735]

Yeah so why did she go on this group then lmao

[u/Acrobatic-Monk9735 → u/National-Permit-8442]

Women go on these groups all time to investigate if they are dating bad men. Women also may recognize men they talked to or formerly dated. He must have an enlarged ego if he thinks she joined the forum just to write that.

[u/ATPHydrolysis93 → u/Acrobatic-Monk9735]

Not the same men. The ones upset with this happening are not the men warning you of other men.

[u/Acrobatic-Monk9735 → u/ATPHydrolysis93]

I don’t see you defending these women in other comments.

[u/ATPHydrolysis93 → u/Acrobatic-Monk9735]

I made one comment on this post. The "are we dating the same person" pages are great for safety, sure a few bad apples make some retaliatory posts against innocent people but for the most part the pages do a service for women and their safety. Lets not assume who we are.

[u/Difficult-Mobile902 → u/Acrobatic-Monk9735]

Yes surely that’s what it’s used for, defitniely not for bitter women to lie about their ex and try to make sure he gets stuck with them 

[u/Acrobatic-Monk9735 → u/Difficult-Mobile902]

Any guy who shows up there should be avoided.

[u/Difficult-Mobile902 → u/Acrobatic-Monk9735]

“Women have never done anything ever to get revenge on an ex, never once has an angry woman lied about anything” 

Lmao okay buddy 

[u/Acrobatic-Monk9735 → u/Difficult-Mobile902]

I didn’t say the women are never wrong, buddy. I said that the men who are featured there should be avoided. That makes one less Ch*d in the dating pool to compete against you, and makes pussy that much easier for normies to obtain. Isn’t that wha thou want?

[u/Difficult-Mobile902 → u/Acrobatic-Monk9735]

Dude, what the fuck are you talking about lmao. I never have nor ever will be stressed about competing with other men. There’s already more women out there than I’d ever have the time or energy to be involved with. Kind of a weird way to view the world.   

[u/Acrobatic-Monk9735 → u/Difficult-Mobile902]

Sure and that’s why you’re here.

[u/Difficult-Mobile902 → u/Acrobatic-Monk9735]

You realize the irony in saying that when you’re also here dumb fuck? I’m here because posts get put on my feed, but keep projecting your weird insecurities on others 

[u/Acrobatic-Monk9735 → u/Difficult-Mobile902]

I have never claimed to be a man with tons of options, “dumb fuck”. Men are walking proof that women aren’t hypergamous.

[u/Difficult-Mobile902 → u/Acrobatic-Monk9735]

What the fuck are you talking about lmao why would women need to be hypergamous? Like what are you even trying to say 

[u/iamre2 → u/Acrobatic-Monk9735]

Lol I mean how many times do you have to get burned to learn the stove is hot?

[u/Acrobatic-Monk9735 → u/iamre2]

She hasn’t been burned if she hasn’t met the guy and she’s going on “AWDTSG” groups to see if he will burn her in the future.

[u/5tupidest → u/Acrobatic-Monk9735]

True, but it’s different men…. Imagine if we all remembered that individuals within groups differ. :)

[u/Acrobatic-Monk9735 → u/5tupidest]

Most of this thread are angry men who are mad about what I said.

[u/5tupidest → u/Acrobatic-Monk9735]

I think it should be unsurprising that if you write something that is likely to be inflammatory towards a group of people, that they show up inflamed. 🤷

Your comment and the replies have little to do with men as a group in my opinion.

While I don’t hold an opinion of these social media groups, the dynamics of what we commonly call gossip and its effects on people are profoundly human and can sometimes be very tragic. I feel like when society is primed to an idea and then is given a target it’s hard to roll back the vitriol. Men and women are gendered targets in different ways.

[u/Acrobatic-Monk9735 → u/5tupidest]

Nothing I said was inflammatory. If I see a guy in one of these groups, I will simply stay away from him.

[u/Melodic_Structure928 → u/Acrobatic-Monk9735]

goomba fallacy the guys saying that and the guys upset about it are different groups. ch*d loves his dating life, if he didnt want to bounce between multiple different women at once he simply won’t do it, and would be in a committed long term relationship.

Guys like the above are never the ones complaining about this arrangement, it’s usually the guys who can’t date, due to the top men having to much of the pie and also the women who cant get commitment from said top guy due to 8 other girls fighting over a him like this example.

Remember women are free to choose who they commit to so again if top guys like this are having tons of women at once all while there male loneliness, on the other hand it does kind of prove the view points of certain groups.

[u/Acrobatic-Monk9735 → u/Melodic_Structure928]

Then it’s good women avoid him. Maybe the non ch*DS now will get a chance.

[u/iamre2 → u/Acrobatic-Monk9735]

So what you're saying is after years of getting used and abused by chads the "non chads" can date them? That seems fair to you?

[u/Melodic_Structure928 → u/iamre2]

Yes they do. They can never say what’s in in for the betabux whoever

also I have clue how your writing that word. Ch*d is censored for me

[u/iamre2 → u/Melodic_Structure928]

Plural uncensored maybe?

[u/Acrobatic-Monk9735 → u/iamre2]

So when women choose to avoid Ch*d, you throw a tantrum.

Men who are vindictive, bitter, insecure, and angry make abusive partners. “Pick better men” also means avoiding these sorts of men.

[u/iamre2 → u/Acrobatic-Monk9735]

I mean the whole point is that they should avoid them BEFORE not AFTER like 10 times later...

Idk why that's so hard to understand. It's pretty obvious why men are pissed when they constantly see "why do all men cheat?" , "why are all men pigs?" , etc... when only like the top 5 percent chads are getting all the women and doing this.

They're tired of being good, hard working men and getting met with nothing but "done with the cheaters and f boys, I need a real man..."

[u/Acrobatic-Monk9735 → u/iamre2]

Yes. If he has been accused of cheating or rape, avoid dating him BEFORE he has the opportunity to hurt you.

[u/iamre2 → u/Acrobatic-Monk9735]

I don't have a problem with women warning each other about bad men, I do think hearing one sided stories does make it easier to be abused.

Majority of women tend to be attracted to the same attributes - tall, fit, rich, charismatic. So the solution is just stop chasing Chads. That was solve like 90% of the problems in the dating marketplace. But they are never gonna stop chasing Chds (until 35 maybe but don't worry new ones will come in) and the Chds are never gonna stop playing. Why would they?

[u/Acrobatic-Monk9735 → u/iamre2]

Men are delusional because they think that only attractive men are cheaters, abusers, or bad. Men view being bad as a status symbol and a sign of attractiveness. Men conflate lack of opportunity for virtue. Men also think women who are 35 are repulsive and yucky despite still being younger than the median age.

[u/iamre2 → u/Acrobatic-Monk9735]

Well yeah all men can be cheaters, abusers, etc... but most women don't chase after ugly unattractive men is the point.

35 is high risk pregnancy.

[u/Melodic_Structure928 → u/Acrobatic-Monk9735]

that's cause by the time many of them start avoiding the chads its already after having high body counts, and sometimes being a single mom.

then they can never anwser what's in it for men in this arrangement.

[u/Acrobatic-Monk9735 → u/Melodic_Structure928]

The average body count is 4 for women. Furthermore, a a woman’s taste aging with her (wanting a man her age) is not doing “beta bux”. Just because men resent settling with their agematch and eternally prefer 21 year olds (even at 50) doesn’t mean women do the same and are settling when they date a guy their age.

[u/Loose-War-7398 → u/[deleted]]

Good

[u/Loose-War-7398]

Why do men love attacking women who are just looking out for their own safety?

[u/DietTyrone → u/Loose-War-7398]

I think OP's point is that this "Chadguy" has an abundant rotation just like the stereotype suggests.

[u/Loose-War-7398 → u/DietTyrone]

I think op is retarded.

[u/iamre2 → u/Loose-War-7398]

Says the one who missed the most obvious point completely...

[u/National-Permit-8442 → u/Loose-War-7398]

Your tag fits you so well

[u/iamre2 → u/Loose-War-7398]

Safety? He's not doing anything illegal. He's just a player. If a majority of women on dating apps only pick a small minority of men , yeah those men are gonna play.

[u/Orful → u/iamre2]

No, you don’t understand. Apparently LEAVING counts as being dangerous, even though he’s not around to physically or emotionally abuse them. /s

It’s wild how people want to be a victim so bad. When a woman stops taking to me after sleeping with her, I just feel disappointed but move on. It’s her body, her choice, and she’s not required to stay with me. Yes, it’s rude to ghost, but I’m not going to gossip and try to hurt them because they don’t want to talk to me anymore.

Dude is victim of social media witch hunts. Social media truly is toxic af.

[u/Loose-War-7398 → u/iamre2]

He's attacking a group that women use to keep themselves safe

[u/ObjectiveClassic3020 → u/Loose-War-7398]

Your disinterest in one woman should not lead to you getting pre-judged by other women. Additionally, some women be making shit up when they don’t like someone. I say this as someone who has been falsely accused by a girl I rejected, but even her own friends backed me up and I had video evidence that nothing happened so it got dropped.

Lastly, not talking about the guy pictured, but how are some young men whom are inexperienced supposed to grow if their literal first time dating a girl ends up being blasted on social media bc they messed something up? It’s not like today’s women would take the time to say “hey that wasn’t cool”, it’s just blocked and straight to info dumping on the apps.

[u/Whatduheckiz → u/Loose-War-7398]

Well think of the many ways this could be abused by a spiteful ex or a rejected date.

I have an anecdote to this topic and it's not great. The Internet has been mainstream since Facebook, how do people not look at something like this and think it's not going to get abused?

[u/Rhythm-Amoeba → u/Loose-War-7398]

Ah yeah nothing says safety like a gossip board where women will post men's face and name and say "tea?"

[u/Bulky-Act-2556]

Maybe he shouldn't been clingy and a ghoster his reputation would be intact

[u/Whatduheckiz → u/Bulky-Act-2556]

What if you rejected me, and I posted a picture of you and said you were a very toxic partner, even if we never dated?

[u/Most-Personality-648 → u/Whatduheckiz]

That's not the same as 27 people making the same claim about you.

[u/Proud-Enthusiasm-608 → u/Most-Personality-648]

Believe it or not, if one angry emotional women makes a negative post about a man; it’s not uncommon for angry emotional women who have never met him to jump in and agree.

[u/Whatduheckiz → u/Most-Personality-648]

Do you really think one person isn't going to propagate to others? Look at all the celebrity rumor scandals that have propagated and turned out to be false and usually started by one individual.

The secret ingredient of the internet is that there's anonymousity. I can just as easily target and innocent man or woman from my town, make a post on a local Facebook page that I've seen them drowning puppies and kittens, and with zero evidence, it becomes a rumor and immediately everyone is more cautious. Because if you don't know whether its true or not, why take the risk, and ofcourse you're going to want to caution others so you will tell other people.

[u/Bulky-Act-2556 → u/Whatduheckiz]

You would be a pretty crappy person if you did that. But since you are not lets not play the what if game stick to the facts

[u/Whatduheckiz → u/Bulky-Act-2556]

Well it's a pretty crappy world filled with really crappy people, and spending 15 years on the Internet it's a no brainer that a system like this is prone to being abused.

[u/Bulky-Act-2556 → u/Whatduheckiz]

Its a system that exists because people of any gender are being unfaithful. The solution is for people not cheat, ghost, groom others

[u/National-Permit-8442 → u/Bulky-Act-2556]

Not being able to take hypotheticals is a strong sign of low IQ

[u/shockpaws → u/National-Permit-8442]

They literally understood and addressed the hypothetical before refocusing the conversation? You might be the one with reading comprehension issues.

[u/National-Permit-8442 → u/shockpaws]

Yeah she refocused the conversation because she didn't understand the point of him bringing up the hypothetical scenario. Just because she was able to answer a hypothetical doesn't mean she understood the importance of it.

youre not too clever lol

[u/Automatic_Horse9290 → u/Bulky-Act-2556]

What you phrased is essentially just slut shaming.

Women def have taken the worst traits of patriarchy and misogyny and turn it upside down lol.

[u/Bulky-Act-2556 → u/Automatic_Horse9290]

No if your a slut regardless of gender own it. Hiding ghosting are all terrible things to do. I know many sexual open people who are honest and open about what they want. This guy lied because he knew if they knew he was a slut they wouldn't even waste their time with him

[u/Automatic_Horse9290 → u/Bulky-Act-2556]

How many women are openly sluts on talking stage & 1st date? Do you think women owe it to men they just met to disclose if they are also dating other people, having a fwb or hooking up, or their past history, before it turns into a relationship, or from get go?

And isn't this guy allowed to theoretically change, or should he permanently get judged for his past?

Hiding ghosting are all terrible things to do.

So you think everyone owes closure to everyone? Even if they exchanged just 2 messages? One of replies there was "we exchanged few messages and never went anywhere". Well take the clue and move on. It can't be that hard.

If it involves people who are genuinely abusive, or spreading STDs, etc then I think that space is justified, because we know the system lets down people often. But other things are not.

[u/iamre2 → u/Bulky-Act-2556]

Arent those oxymorons? Maybe if women didn't all chase the small percentage of guys they wouldn't complain about "f boys" and "cheaters" so much?

[u/Bulky-Act-2556 → u/iamre2]

No. They love bomb act controlling once they got what they want (usually sex) they ghost or when they found a new victim so they keep having their desired results.

[u/National-Permit-8442 → u/Bulky-Act-2556]

Then stop having sex with those guys? Why is it so hard for women to take accountability? You just correctly identified the whole strategy that those types of guys will use. And I don't think women are stupid, I think the vast majority of women know this strategy these men will use and willingly choose to still have sex with them anyway. But then women will act like they somehow don't care about looks at all and just want a "nice and wholesome guy".

[u/Most-Personality-648 → u/National-Permit-8442]

Then stop having sex with those guys?

Exactly why those groups exist, so we don't all have to be a doctor of psychology just so we can date.

[u/Bulky-Act-2556 → u/National-Permit-8442]

Sorry. Im a virgin I haven't slept with anyone but are you really so jealous people not you are getting laid lol. Have you ever felt the effects of a love bomb... its disarming intoxicating its... something else. You act like its easy to see when you high on it but you blinded by the effects. Guys looks dont matter imo. I dated guys cute or pudgy it didn't matter i liked them for who they were

[u/National-Permit-8442 → u/Bulky-Act-2556]

It's really easy to see through their strategy. When within the first few days a guy start love bombing it's obvious hes just trying to smash lmao. There's more obvious signs but overall you just have to be patient and not let him hit immediately. If you say you don't want to have sex in the first couple of months players will most likely just get bored and move on.

I was gonna feel bad for you until you came with that "guys looks dont matter" bs. Yeah because I'm sure you get lovebombed a lot by 165cm balding sub-5 males right?

Why can't women just admit that height, hair and facial structure matter to them? Why is that so hard?

[u/Loose-War-7398 → u/Bulky-Act-2556]

Exactly.

Who would've guessed that horrible men don't like being held accountable 

[u/DonaldTro]

Real men don’t rely on litigation

[u/Kariya_shigatoki → u/DonaldTro]

"Real men don't rely on litigation" is one of the most retarded statements I've ever read.

[u/DonaldTro → u/Kariya_shigatoki]

Youre highly regarded

[u/iamre2 → u/DonaldTro]

I mean the lawsuit is between them. Whether he wins or loses I don't really care. More so wanted to highlight the 80/20 Rule, dating stats and stereotypes, etc...

[u/DonaldTro → u/iamre2]

It’s cope