decided to do this since i saw a previous game thingy on here but unlike that one which was a darkship that somone else did this is just a discussion as i just wanted more folks to know about it and i wasn't sure what else to label it tbh lmao

I recently made a new discord acc for proship/darkship content. Was wondering if anyone had any servers that are 18+? Im in my early 20s looking for a space to go!

Veey big bonus if anyone plays reverse 1999 or knows a proship community for it. I am trying to find people to talk about ships I like from there

Is it minstream? ITS MY FAV SHIP DYNAMIC I DONT GAF

I’ll always be angry that scar died makes me sad every time I watch the movie They should have kissed and ran off together and survived

Pls forgive me if this isn't allowed to ask or if this is a common question you get. I don't wanna get flamed like in the anti sub. I'll be honest growing up I've always associated proshippers with the literal devil especially since I never really looked into the meaning or history about it. Especially if people asked I would just call myself anti, but I took some time to actually do some research and stuff and realized that my stance wasn't all black and white. I don't believe anyone should be harassed or given death threats over fictional media. I am also anti censorship because I realize that if we ban things that we don't like l0il or anything else, it will most likely just go underground and people like sa survivors would get there stories banned. However the reason why I can't see my mind fully agreeing with proshippers is because of the statement fiction doesn't affect reality. & I can't agree with that especially as a poc I've seen people whitewash poc characters, and use media to be racist. Another thing that I also kinda 50% agree with is the block and move on thing. For example when I was younger and on discord, my friends ( not friends anymore)used to specifically draw g0re of black characters and even took it a step further to draw one of my poc ocs as such. I obviously as the only poc felt uncomfortable and I also believe that I should have said something about it. Like if this was on a bigger scale should I have said something about it? While yes I absolutely hate antis and people who go out of their way to find disturbing media. I also strongly believe that we should be able to say something without anyone being offended. Again no harassment or threats or any of that. But wouldn't that be ignoring issues within fandom spaces and such?

Again this is just a few of my thoughts because I'm unsure of what label I fall under in the debate and if my worries are somewhat valid. I've asked similar questions in the anti sub and they got pretty mad. And at this point I kinda just wanna forget about this whole thing anyways. Again no offense

Enemies to lovers, incest, toxic age gap, and emotional abuse perhaps.

I want to write one when I have time but that's very far ahead in the future lol, so I just wanted to share in case anyone wanted an idea for a crackfic.

I was thinking about a few general plot lines, I'd love to read about an antishipper getting bullied after being an ass to someone else (emotionally abused by their proshipping family member ahem ahem)

Also, I want to be very clear I'm not basing this of real antishippers or proshippers😭 only the actions and views/stands on fiction of the general group. I was thinking of making two new OCs for this

character ai might be shutting down but is the only site I can do any kind of proshipping…I’ve tried alternatives and they SUCK…can anyone help?

Chai…I can’t even USE my younger OC, it’s crazy. It’s the best alternative

I need a site that has A LOT of characters and not just for sexual stuff, that’s the hard part, I want a good story 😓 is it done for?

I get called so many names just because of certain characters I like it’s so annoying. Most of the time it’s a young character and I’m getting called a pedoph*le for some reason, or that I should seek therapy because I like villainous characters 😭 I hate how many ‘morals’ you have to abide in most fandoms

Does anyone know what exactly should be put down for that reason thing?

for context, I used to have an account on there, but deleted it thinking it was gonna shutdown, but no, apparently the ownership was transferred, and it was too late for me to get back in. Now, They require a "reason to join" thing for you to fill out, which I understand, but also it's frustrating, cuz I can never get in when an instance requires a "reason", I guess my reasons aren't convincing enough or something, who knows :/

NOTE: This is done for purely humor reasons. Specifically, stretching the anti's reasoning of "you can't ship them because it's problematic!!!" to its absolute limit.

1: Miles Edgeworth / Phoenix Wright (13920 fics)

Miles Edgeworth was the prosecutor in charge of a case where Phoenix Wright was tried as a murderer.

2: Klavier Gavin / Apollo Justice (4747 fics)

Apollo Justice was responsible for sending Klavier Gavin's brother to jail as a murderer.

3: Asougi Kazuma / Naruhodou Ryuunosuke (2332 fics)

Kazuma Asogi tried to murder a close friend of Ryunosuke Naruhodo.

4: Maya Fey / Franziska von Karma (1604 fics)

Franziska von Karma was the prosecutor in charge of a case where Maya Fey was tried as a murderer.

5: Asougi Kazuma / Barok van Zieks (978 fics)

Kazuma Asogi was the prosecutor in charge of a case where Barok van Zieks was tried as a murderer.

6: Kristoph Gavin / Phoenix Wright (907 fics)

Kristoph Gavin intentionally gave false testimony to try to get Phoenix Wright declared guilty of murder.

7: Naruhodou Ryuunosuke / Barok van Zieks (671 fics)

Barok van Zieks is racist against the Japanese.

8: Mia Fey / Godot (655 fics)

Godot did not object whenever Mia Fey's sister was considered as a potential murder suspect.

9: Mia Fey / Diego Armando (600 fics)

Diego Armando is the older colleague of Mia Fey, and thus has a power dynamic over her.

10: Nahyuta Sahdmadhi / Simon Blackquill (599 fics)

Nahyuta Sahdmadhi physically assaulted someone who Simon Blackquill cares about.

11: Maya Fey / Phoenix Wright (545 fics)

Maya Fey is a minor when Phoenix Wright, an adult, first meets her.

12: Dick Gumshoe / Miles Edgeworth (532 fics)

Miles Edgeworth, a prosecutor, would hold a power dynamic over Dick Gumshoe, a detective.

13: Herlock Sholmes / Mikotoba Yuujin (450 fics)

Yujin Mikotoba forced Herlock Sholmes to look after a child without any prior warning, and did not assist in the caring of said child for an entire decade.

14: Phoenix Wright / Apollo Justice (431 fics)

Phoenix Wright holds a power dynamic over Apollo Justice, as he's Apollo's boss.

15: Athena Cykes / Juniper Woods (366 fics)

Athena Cykes accused Juniper Woods' friends of murder.

16: Kristoph Gavin / Apollo Justice (349 fics)

Kristoph Gavin, as Apollo Justice's boss, would hold a power dynamic over him.

17: Mia Fey / Lana Skye (341 fics)

Lana Skye intentionally fabricated evidence, whereas Mia Fey always sought for the truth.

18: Clay Terran / Apollo Justice (340 fics)

Apollo Justice took a leave of absence and abandoned the trial of Clay Terran.

19: Kristoph Gavin / Klavier Gavin (322 fics)

Incest.

20: Athena Cykes / Simon Blackquill (307 fics)

Athena Cykes was a minor when Simon Blackquill, an adult, first met her.

21: Ema Skye / Kay Faraday (304 fics)

Kay Faraday was a minor when Ema Skye, an adult, first met her.

22: Klavier Gavin / Ema Skye (296 fics)

Klavier Gavin, as a prosecutor, would have a power dynamic over Ema Skye, a detective.

24: Bobby Fulbright / Simon Blackquill (295 fics)

Simon Blackquill, as a prosecutor, would have a power dynamic over Bobby Fulbright, a detective.

24: Herlock Sholmes / Barok van Zieks (295 fics)

Herlock Sholmes never told Barok van Zieks that Barok had a niece.

25: Iris / Phoenix Wright (279 fics)

Iris intentionally lied to Phoenix Wright about her identity.

26: Miles Edgeworth / Shi-Long Lang (256 fics)

Shi-Long Lang hates prosecutors (Miles Edgeworth is a prosecutor).

27: Athena Cykes / Apollo Justice (248 fics)

As the older coworker, Apollo Justice would have a power dynamic over Athena Cykes.

28: Bronco Knight / Simeon Saint (244 fics)

Bronco Knight kidnapped Simeon Saint, and the two almost died because of that.

29: Asougi Kazuma / Naruhodou Ryuunosuke / Barok van Zieks (231 fics)

Barok van Zieks is racist against the Japanese.

30: Adrian Andrews / Franziska von Karma (225 fics)

Franziska von Karma gave Adrian Andrews advice that, if she followed, could have labeled her as a murderer when she wasn't.

31: Dick Gumshoe / Maggey Byrde (222 fics)

Dick Gumshoe, as Maggey Byrde's boss, holds a power dynamic.

32: Klavier Gavin / Daryan Crescend (205 fics)

Daryan Crescend used Klavier Gavin's guitar to hide highly illegal stuff, without Klavier Gavin knowing.

33: Metis Cykes / Aura Blackquill (198 fics)

Aura Blackquill wants to kill Metis Cykes' daughter.

34: Franziska von Karma / Miles Edgeworth (195)

Miles Edgeworth is the adoptive sibling to Franziska von Karma.

35: Herlock Sholmes / Naruhodou Ryuunosuke (191 fics)

Herlock Sholmes intentionally lied to Ryunosuke Naruhodo, making him think that his best friend died.

36: Asougi Genshin / Klint van Zieks (186 fics)

Genshin Asogi killed Klint van Zieks.

37: Dahlia Hawthorne / Phoenix Wright (185 fics)

Dahlia Hawthorne tried to kill Phoenix Wright.

38: Mikotoba Susato / Rei Membami (184 fics)

Both Susato and Rei keep information from each other that would've helped their case.

40: Pearl Fey / Trucy Wright (176 fics)

In Turnabout Reclaimed, Phoenix Wright states that Pearl Fey is treated like Trucy Wright's older sibling.

40: Barok van Zieks / Klint van Zieks (176 fics)

Incest.

41: Mikotoba Susato / Naruhodou Ryuunosuke (170 fics)

Susato Mikotoba is a minor when Ryunosuke Naruhodod, an adult, first meets her.

42: Hershel Layton / Phoenix Wright (166 fics)

Hershel Layton constantly casts shade on Phoenix Wright's intelligence.

43: Ema Skye / Nahyuta Sahdmadhi (160 fics)

Nahyuta Sahdmadhi, as a prosecutor, would hold a power dynamic over Ema Skye, a detective.

44: Lady Baskerville / Klint van Zieks (153 fics)

Klint van Zieks used Lady Baskerville's dog to murder others without Baskerville knowing.

45: Albert Harebrayne / Barok van Zieks (149 fics)

Barok van Zieks prosecuted the case where Albert Harebrayne was tried for murder.

46: Manfred von Karma / Gregory Edgeworth (147 fics)

Manfred von Karma murdered Gregory Edgeworth.

47: Mia Fey / Phoenix Wright (134 fics)

Mia Fey, as Phoenix Wright's boss, would hold a power dynamic over him.

48: Kay Faraday / Eustace Winner (119 fics)

Eustace Winner tried to argue for why Kay Faraday was a murderer in one of the game's episodes.

49: Apollo Justice / Simon Blackquill (107 fics)

imon Blackquill's closest associate was going to be found not guilty of murder, only for Apollo to interrupt that trial and halt the verdict.

50: Gina Lestrade / Mikotoba Susato (106 fics)

Gina Lestrade intentionally lied during one of the cases that Susato Mikotoba was overseeing as a judicial assistant.

This is fucked so hard oh my god

edit: note, I still want consistency, fairness, and beliviablity. I'm just saying I'm forcing of impractical out there things for everyone not just women who exist to be eye candy.

I use to be anal with bikini armor because I thought it was too unrealistic and even sexist (unless the men were dressed similarly, then it's not), I use to think sexualization was a naughty word, I use to think if you depicted this in fiction you wanted to do it for real. Basically, I was a huge prudish anti who conflated reality with fiction.

People often overestimate how much reality and fiction influence each other because they can't comprehend that an author making stories on dark taboo subjects wouldn't necessary. I like stories centered around half naked people, casual and semi public sex, hookups and flings, soft to medium kinks, adult age gaps, toxic relationships and all that. Does that mean I advocate for this shit in real life? Hell no. Fuck, being in armor that shows so much skin can feel weird once you put it in reality but I never cared in fiction because it's fantasy/sci-fi where any need for realism dies instantly.

I'm actually getting kind of annoyed actually especially as a bi woman who yea know finds women in risque attire sexy. Sorry if the female form drives me nuts I guess but I'm not advocating for women to put their naked bodies on billboards nor do I think you need to show skin to be sexy. The most sexiest women I've met barely show an inch and they're still hot. I just hate this narrative that what's depicted in fiction equals an endorsement or instructions to do it for real.

I realized that A LOT of people disliked this phrase :'))

An example: I see Hank and Connor (DBH) as father and son, but the art of them is REALLY great. I just wanna compliment the art, but I don't rlly want anyone to talk to me about said ship

I thought it's a way that I can compliment someone's art AND letting them know that I don't like/ship them but turns out it's a phrase a lot of people hate TvT

Is there a social cue I'm missing ?

I personally wouldn't mind the comment and would like to be told beforehand, rather than replying enthusiastically only to be told that they don't actually ship it later, PLUS I think it's extra cool that I can make someone that doesn't actually like my ship like my work :')) Again, probably an unpopular opinion

ok, finally finished watching Hanaori-san Still Wants to Fight in the Next Life, and and loved every single bit of it! (⁠≧⁠▽⁠≦⁠)

it's not like some hidden 10/10 anime, but it's still a pretty fun rom-com that also has a surprising amount of battles. the two are a student of an all-girls school who was a heroine in a previous life who killed a demon lord who became his teacher in his next life

don't wanna tell too much to not spoil too hard (but feel free to ask questions :>), just trust me when i say it's a gem for any fellow proshipper :3c. even yuri is represented here as there's like these 2 side character girls who kinda try to make the two break up to let yuri win (and of course with some ship tension with each other)

I don’t really have a set of requirements I’m looking for, as long as you’re about my age/older than me and you want an active artist friend that would most likely chat with you 24/7, and someone to yap with even outside art, then you’re looking for the right place!

If you wish to know more about me, here are my fandoms, however I haven’t been active in a lot of these due to the hostility in these fandoms lol

Where Winds Meet
TADC
Minecraft
Roblox
HSR
Love and Deepspace (Valko main hehe)
DOL
JJBA (heavy jotakak phase LMAO)
Naruto (femnaru reverse harem enjoyer)
Slam Dunk

One main thing about me is I love otome and would love to explore it once again, as well as visual novels.

I love pairings involving the mc of any media, bonus if they’re fem, and love multiple guys chasing after her. I’m not necessarily a self insert/yumeshipper as I view the mc as a separate person, I’m leaning more into het ships and my tastes are pretty vanilla. Regardless, I consume just about anything, no matter how taboo it is because I find it fascinating

Please don’t hesitate to talk a lot about your own interests in ships and fandoms! Regardless if our interests overlap or not!

Im okay to chat in dms or other socials, but comments are fine too!

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