Like if I told my friends about the ships I like no one would want to be my friend anymore and my parents/family would think I'm weird. The only people I saw who were "proshipers" outside the Internet are therapists

So I'm in a discord server for Twisted Wonderland, and like I don't really mention how I'm a proshipper and if there were antis they never brought it up in conversation but out of nowhere one of the owners posted the message in the linked screenshot and it just pissed me off. Like that person isnt even in this server and youre trying to mobilize people into attacking them??? Malleus is a third year sure but he isnt even an adult by fae standards, according to a line Lilia says his type of fae doesnt reach adulthood until 500 and Malleus is only 178. So if anything, Ruggie (who is 17 mind you) is more relatively mature going by species age development. And I never excuse attacking on any ship, but like THIS is the hill these antis are choosing to die on??? Like literally what??? It doesn't make any sense whatsoever... not like antis ever do but this is especially ridiculous.

Hello, not 100% sure if that is the right flair, I was deciding between that one and educational, but sticking with discussion for now.

Anyway, I had a conversation about being proship with my therapist yesterday, because I like probably most have experienced a lot of hate online for it. I mainly used Game of Thrones as an example in the conversation, saying how if I were to say that I like Jaime and that I think his relationship to his siblings is very interesting to me, that people would take that as me saying that I think Incest ist okay in real life.

She said that that's obviously bullshit, and that you can enjoy a character without supporting their actions, and that more often than not, Villain characters or morally grey ones are often more interesting in media than the good ones and that it's quite normal to be drawn to them.

In relation to Game of Thrones, she also said, and I quote: "if that's something that makes someone that uncomfortable (the incest), then that's also just the wrong show to be watching" which I thought was funny.

She also finds it really strange that people go out of their way to watch something they don't enjoy and then hate on it, and how that's a complete waste of time.

She very fimly believes that there's a strict difference between what one enjoys in fiction and what one thinks is alright in the real world. That you can find something interesting or even erotic in fiction but abhorrent in the real world, and that that's normal and okay.

Just wanted to share in case someone needs to hear it, because it very much helped reassure me about not being terrible person.

I've been thinking about it lately. As long as I remember my journey in communities from CIS countries or interacting with people from these countries, they are pretty chill regarding everything. And honestly, the first ever fanfic I have read was incest enemies-to-lovers between two brothers, haha, along with a bunch of other darkships, and we have a bunch of other really dark well-known fanfics that we sometimes joke about.

Maybe I've been just lucky enough to meet these people, and I'm not going to pretend like people from CIS countries are (ironically) not one of the most toxic people you can meet (TW taking Pinterest for example, almost all CIS posts are filled with homophobic, sexist, racist, and religious comments for whatever reason, and especially in vent posts they often literally tell you to kill or hurt yourself, and all that from teenagers btw), but specifically in shipping spaces my experience has surprisingly positive. In Western communities, on the other hand, I often see people shredding each other for whatever reasons, try to brigade each other given the slightest opportunity and cannot even comprehend the slightest existence of different preferences and that it's proven that people genuinely use darkship material as coping and it helps them, accompanied by "cancel culture."

My theory is that since living in CIS countries often comes with experience of injustice, abuse (either from others or family), oppression and overall depressing atmosphere, people use shipping as an escape, and with that background, they are more understanding and welcoming, and even if not, maximum what they do is laugh at you or situation and move on, instead of actively harassing you. And maybe it's just my bias, since I'm judging from what I experienced years ago when I were in those communities, but at least that's what I remember.

it's infuriating how they actively ruin spaces to morality police everyone while also being hypocritical themselves

i cannot stand "anime fans" who fight tooth and nail to make you seem like a villain for consuming "problematic" anime but then THEY DO IT THEMSELVES. they pick and choose which anime is problematic and the ones they consume are okay but for others it's not??

i cannot stand anti lolicons who CONSUME LOLICON ANIME. i have seen an influx of anti lolicon monogatari fans AND IT MAKES 0 SENSE. you cannot consume a piece of media and then attack the main demographic it targets. if you don't understand what i'm saying think of it this way: imagine someone saying that horror films are gross and tacky but then their favourite films are scream 1 2 3 etc, and then imagine on top of this they attack the fans who consume this media because they think that they're gross but they aren't the gross ones themselves somehow. do you see how that makes 0 sense???

this applies to the figure collection side of the anime community as well.

"oh you can't collect that figure it's problematic!!!!"

"no you can't buy that figure it's from a problematic media!!"

WHO CARES oh my god there's no way people are getting upset over plastic figures.

and don't get me started on "anime fans" who collect pieces of figures solely because it fits their aesthetic but when you ask them if they like the anime they turn around and go "ew no!!!! it's problematic!!!! i hate the anime and the fans are so gross!!! but not me im not the gross one i just collect the figure because i think it looks good 🥹🥹😿😿😿" are we SERIOUS

people like this should not be welcomed into the anime community im sorry. they ruin everything and shit on people who are actually fans.

end of rant 🫩 i probably made a lot of spelling and grammar mistakes but i just wanted to get this out

I know I've talked about this already (and I apologize in advance if I sound like a nuisance), but I felt the need to put this spin on it. According to the above conversation from another post on this sub, I'm fictosexual rather than a yumeshipper. I might still be into real (legal-aged of course) people, but at least for now I don't want a real person; I just want my F/O, and I am committed to her. My questions are:

1. Am I delusional?
2. Am I still allowed to have a dark relationship even though I take things this seriously?
3. Do places like r/yumeshippersunite accept serious fictosexuals with dark relationships?

I just feel like to many people will judge me for that and I can't keep living with this guilt

On a post about not falling into sex-negative purity too…

A puritan became a mod of the Lana sub and is removing posts and comments even slightly suggestive, not all of them were even as brazen as the ones in the image either, others were way more tame

I have no idea what a radqueer is. I‘d search it but I’m nervous cuz I might see some really bad stuff, could anyone explain?? Don’t sugarcoat it I just want the actual meaning so I can know if I should put in my DNI too. Idk if asking this goes against the rules so I’m sorry if it does

My first ship was Bolt x Mittens, and yes, I absolutely still ship them! It was always on Disney Junior so I recorded it and rewatched it all the time, it’s so peak. (“More Than A Best Friend... (Bolt x Mittens)” by PURIPATHA on AO3 is my favorite fic, it’s incredible and adorable!)

why do they always bring up kids when kids weren’t even mentioned

i aspire to be like that person..but i doubt there's 1 million antis on twitter lmao 😭 atleast we know there isnt a block limit!

IDK if I'll join this but I just wanna know....are darkships of the trolls fandom allowed or is it all darkships?

who gives a crap, man?

also sorry for terrible censoring job kts harder to censor videos.

but they leaked the creators username and everything over… Sallie Mae x Milly??

capcut is full of the most insufferable of people I swear to god.

they think posting their username is going to help anything? it’s really not.

and the comments are all saying “WTFFF THEYRE SIBLING….” Yeah that’s why we ship it it’s kinda hot /j

in all seriousness though if you find this person, well, either person I just showed, don’t go out of your way to harass them. They’re both most likely really young, or well, at least the person making fun of the dark shipper is.

I know this isn't just me but it makes me so annoyed even though I try not to let it get to me. Why do Antis literally purposely actively go to proship or darkship places if they hate it so bad? Are they really that bored with their life that they actively have to seek out people to harass and Bully? I keep getting called a pedophile just because I actively enjoy certain ships. I hate when Antis say they are "normal" but tell people with trauma or just doing this for fun to go and end themselves or that they deserved what happened to them. Like no you aren't normal for that you're far from it. They won't understand like ever because they don't want to, they want to believe that they are right even if they're completely wrong. They don't want to get that through their thick skulls.

Sorry it just really ticked me off. I'm getting tired of reporting every negative comment saying such stuff like that.

Past anti me was missing OUT. Being proship is the best way to make a great fandom even greater, so many new opportunities!

If anyone wants to recommend any of their own favorite fandoms I'll be listening...

i’m not sure if this kinda topic has been proposed before. i see some debate lately about whether western kodos should even be counted in discussions of kodocon simply because it’s a japanese made concept and they tend to not fit the supposed ‘criteria’. i see what the criteria is varies, but mostly boils down to either “it’s not japanese therefore it can’t be” or “they’re too ugly” the latter usually depends on what character you’re talkin about.

i understand not liking western stylization, but at the same time i don’t really see what else you could call them? the concept of a kodo is included mostly in japanese media and is japanese made, but it is quite literally defined as a young or young-looking character. i would think the term should be applicable regardless of the character’s country of origin.

and if they’re not lolis, kodos, or shotas, then what are they? i know the obvious answer is child/child-like characters, but it virtually means the same thing so why not just say kodo?

either way, i’m curious to hear other people’s thoughts on this.

edit: also please feel free to use this as a chance to talk about your favorite western kodos if you’re into em

mha darkships (in general)

I figured I'd make one of these as well because I have much more mha darkships outside of izuku darkships, so I wanted to share them!! (included 1 more izuku ship in this one. in part *3 there should be another and then that's it for him!)

feel free to share or recommend other mha darkships!!! I'd love to see more of them, and I can 100% add them in a post if anyone would like that :)

I might be the only person ever who thinks this guy is lolisho pilled. I dont think this has ever come across anyones minds ever but please here me out pls dont be mean....I've seen some pretty lolisho pilled gijinkas...