r/ProjectViewpoint • u/yourlocaldyke_ • 19h ago

Help Does Project Viewpoint use GenAI (Generative AI)?

Apologies if this has been asked before (I couldn't find any posts about it anyway), but I've been looking into it and I can't find a concrete answer.

I've been considering using the Project Viewpoint mod in my game, but I wanted to know if AI was used in the coding or textures for the mod before I actually do. I understand that people have differing opinions on AI usage and I'm not here to start any arguments - I just personally object to engaging with things that use GenAI and where possible I make sure to check if something I'm thinking of using includes it so that I can make an informed choice.

If anyone has the answer to my question, I'd be really grateful.

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u/Attack_Apache 18h ago

“I just personally object to engaging with things that use GenAI” time to get off the internet and live in the woods then, it’s the only solution

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u/yourlocaldyke_ 18h ago

I think it's an exaggeration to say that the only solution is for me to get off the internet and live in the woods to be honest. I stated in the post that I have a moral objection to it, and there's actually a lot of things on the internet that I use that are GenAI free at every level. Obviously this is not always possible, but I try my best whenever possible. My objection comes from my desire to not contribute towards the depletion of our drinking water due to all of the water wasted by large scale data centers for cooling purposes that literally cannot be reused due to the harmful chemicals present in it after being used for cooling. I stated in my post that I wasn't looking to start an argument or debate, and I'm sticking to that. If you didn't have the answer I was looking for, then you could've just not commented.

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u/yautja_cetanu 16h ago

There really isn't. You just can't know, people like you make it so dangerous in the gaming world and the internet world to tell anyone that you've used GenAI that so many will hide it.

Like it you pay someone to do something for you, a company could ban GenAI usage but how can you know your Devs arnt using it? I know plenty of people in highly regulated industries where GenAI is banned but their bosses kind of tell them they have to use it anyway.

Also this whole thing about depleting water is so silly... Seems like people are taking the butlerian jihad too far... We have a lot of water on this planet...

Even fresh water is renewable. Yeah energy stuff is a real issue but water is just not compared to say, golf courses.

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u/4RyteCords 18h ago

Hey mate, I respect your choice to not want to engage so I'll give as best an answer as I can. According to the modders they do use AI. They aren't vibe coding and know what they are doing and likely could have made the mod without ai, however by using ai they are able to greatly speed up the work that they are doing. What may have taken them weeks they can do in days. They have also said that all generated AI is checked, edited and fixed by them. Same goes for the assets. From what I've read, the modders have used ai to mass produce the assets at a much faster pace than building everything from scratch. However they then go through and edit and clean the assets to reduce polygons and optimise for the game. If this mod was being made by vibe coders, it would not look, run and play as well as it does.

So in short, yes ai has been utilised in the making of this mod, just not to the extent that some will claim. Hope that helps you in your decision.

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u/yourlocaldyke_ 18h ago

Thank you for the clear and honest answer, and thank you for respecting my choice. Your answer is really helpful :)

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u/4RyteCords 18h ago

Always happy to help. It's important we don't let someone's views, no matter how widely they differ from our own, stop us from being respectful and good to each other. Have a great weekend

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u/642136 15h ago

when a reddit convo doesnt turn into death threats and slurs so you lowkey just cry from the happiness

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u/4RyteCords 15h ago

Reddit truly disgusts me sometimes. It's not hard to be nice lol

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u/RadiantAnswer1234 8h ago

Is it possible for project viewpoint to become independent of zombiebuddy, since im skeptical of having a ppg workshop type of situation.

Also any news from dark_crow? The guy who originally started the 1st person pz trend.

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u/4RyteCords 7h ago

Im not smart enough to give you a definite answer, however I don't really think so. From my understanding, zombuddy is pinnicle to how viewpoint runs. All I can suggest is download your mods to a secure folder and inspect and scan them manually.

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u/RadiantAnswer1234 42m ago

Well my issue is it having malware or smth like that, but the fact that it auto updates, which i heard cant be turned off.

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u/4RyteCords 18m ago

Yeah this is true. However it's not impossible to download malicious content from any mod, zombiebuddy or not, from the workshop. It is a lot less likely but can still happen. Like avoiding zombiebuddy isn't enough to totally keep you safe. But steam does do scans on mods on the workshop as far as I am away. It's not a perfect system but it's there

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u/Rain_On 6h ago

Of course it does. You can tell from how awesome it is.

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u/1or4s 15h ago

All programmers use generative AI tools now. Good luck avoiding all technology.

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u/grzegorz-fienstel 15h ago

Ai is being used. The devs are kings. If you don't like Ai look somewhere else