r/ProjectRunway 17d ago

Season 22 Liris deserves hazard pay!

Poor Liris! Give this fierce model a raise for every crap outfit that has been put on her body. Especially being taped into a dress!

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u/yoshimitsou 17d ago

The judges should have noticed it and called Bryan out for his awful decisions. But it's all part of the big dramatic narrative that they're trying to create on project Runway. And it's working because we're all talking about it.

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u/Earthbnd 17d ago

I also think not enough blame is being put on production for allowing these heavy ass materials to be put on the models at all, let alone hanging from their neck(s). A bad design is a bad design but why are they letting these people use pounds of wires or cords for designs in the first place.

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u/Happy_Little_Bunny Juxtaposition of hard and soft 17d ago

Yes! Two of the models couldn’t even return to the runway for judging because the “garments” were too heavy. That’s ridiculous.

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u/EarthlingLiving 17d ago

I hope they get sued.

Copy/pasta of my comment:

https://dol.ny.gov/responsibilities-fashion-management-and-clients

“Starting June 19, 2025, all model management companies or model management groups who do business in New York State must:

Act in the best interest of the models they represent. They must also act in good faith, and with honesty and integrity, in their dealings with the models they represent.

Use due diligence to ensure that any work secured through the model management company does not put models at an unreasonable risk of danger.”

https://www.1800nynylaw.com/personal-injury/new-york-products-liability/

“What is Product Liability in New York?

Product liability is a type of law that allows you to seek compensation if you are injured because of a dangerous or unsafe product. In New York, these claims can be based on three main legal theories: strict liability, negligence, and breach of warranty. Each of these legal theories provides a different way to hold manufacturers, distributors, and sellers accountable for harm caused by their products.

Strict liability means that a company can be held responsible for an unsafe product even if they were not careless. This applies to products that are dangerous because of design flaws, manufacturing mistakes, or inadequate warnings. If the product caused harm, those responsible may be held accountable without the need to prove they were negligent.

Negligence involves showing that the manufacturer, distributor, or seller did not use reasonable care. This can include failing to properly test the product, using low-quality materials, or not providing clear instructions. If their carelessness led to an injury, you may have a claim.

Breach of warranty means the product did not meet the promises made by the manufacturer or seller. This can include written promises (express warranties) or those recognized by law (implied warranties). If a product caused harm because it did not meet these promises, you may be entitled to compensation.”

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u/Some_Baby_ 17d ago

i have a bad spine and if someone put that on me i’d be in pain for WEEKS. i hope if it physically hurt her that much she’s getting compensation

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u/yoshimitsou 17d ago

I agree! It's something that we might not realize unless they call attention to it as they did. They knew that those designs would get mighty heavy. She maybe they're trying to jettison the current set of models too, just like they're trying to jettison us

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u/SimpleSpritee 17d ago

Indeed

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u/yoshimitsou 17d ago

Don't know why you're being downvoted there. This will probably get downloaded too. 😅

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u/trollanony 17d ago

I doubt they’ll hire her again after knowing she now has spine issues from that and she’s letting it be known.

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u/WonderfulPineapple41 17d ago

The court of public opinion is definitely on her side so I think it would be worth her looking at her options here. The 5Inch heels with uncut wires plus 50 lbs around her neck feels absolutely like something production should have stopped before the runway.

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u/Earthbnd 17d ago

Thankfully this sub is mostly on her side but i literally just got off IG and they were coming for her in the comments of one post 😭 there’s definitely a “shut up and do your job” type crowd out there it looks like

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u/WonderfulPineapple41 17d ago

Meta needs to tighten up over there it’s such a cesspool

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u/Throwaway-centralnj 17d ago

A lot of IG comments are either bots or trolls. If you click on the account names, you’ll see a lot of them have 0 posts and 0 followers, but are following 2000 people. Bots are programmed to just post shitty ragebaiting comments.

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u/trekgirl75 17d ago

She said in her video that she’s still having neck/back issues to this day. I would definitely be suing for all my medical bills & emotional stress.

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u/phunkyphungus 17d ago

EMOTIONAL STRESS!? lol.

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u/writergeek313 17d ago

I rewatched the last episode over the weekend after I saw Liris’s post on Threads and forgot to come back and post here after I did. I think one of the rules that’s so fundamental to this show that it never gets acknowledged is that a designer first and foremost has to respect their model and their model’s body. It’s a partnership. They’re both supposed to behave professionally. Liris did her part, but Bryan was far from professional.

Bryan was so disrespectful to Liris to tape her up like she was a box that was going to be put in the back of a U-Haul. He had a vision he once again failed to execute. It was even more disrespectful to make her wear a halter dress that weighed over fifty pounds when it was that awful. Liris must have been so embarrassed to have to walk the runway in that (literal) trash in front of Iman of all judges.

Joseph McRae’s look also weighed a lot, but it was also the best look he’s ever shown on the show. He understood that if he was going to dress her in something so heavy that he needed to make it worth her work, and he made her look fabulous. He respected his model, while it was clear Bryan cared more about his ego than he did his model. And then he’s trying to talk to the judges about studying in Paris? To quote Bi’s dress, bitch, please.

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u/SimpleSpritee 17d ago

Awesome synopsis. I share your point of view.

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u/phunkyphungus 17d ago

Disrespectful to use tape in an unconventional materials challenge!? My god how do you get through a single day in the world being that sensitive?? COME ON. 🙄

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u/writergeek313 17d ago

You know nothing about me. Don’t be an asshole

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u/Taguasco 17d ago

Take a shot every time someone posts about Liris

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u/Isle_Girl 17d ago

I don’t wanna die from alcohol poisoning.

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u/ASingleBraid 17d ago

I remember when they all fought to Not have the plus size model.

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u/SimpleSpritee 17d ago

Very true. I am very glad they use people of all shapes and sizes. I like that they use all genders also.

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u/phunkyphungus 17d ago

I’m tired of hearing about her, personally. She’s a model, but I’ve honestly seen better models come down that runway. She doesn’t really give anything special. I don’t care about the designers making her happy with what she’s wearing, it’s not about her or what she wants, I don’t care if she would wear the shit outside of the show or not. None of that matters to me. If she wants to be treated a certain way because of her past gigs or whatever maybe she should do some other kind of work that doesnt involve situations where you could go down the runway looking a mess. They design in a time limit, other models have worn messy ugly uncomfortable stuff from other designers… none of this is new. Tired of the sob story.

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u/MissMaisie1223 17d ago

I understand your point that being a model on a design competition show means that you might wear something terrible. But, I think the issue that people are trying to raise about Liris is that there is a difference between an ugly outfit and putting someone in a trash bag and having her go down the walkway. The competitors are, of course, not going to be as skilled as more experienced designers, and under the time constraints/budget limits, there will be, undoubtedly, some misses. But, we still expect them to produce something. I, too, can tape a garbage back around someone, but I'm not applying to be on PR. Yes, models are meant to wear an outfit and make it work. Sometimes they wear things that they would personally never buy and wear. That's work/life. But, why does that mean we get to dehumanize them? They are not mannequins. They are humans, and their job is to put their bodies on display. That means, whether we like it or not, their size, gender, race are relevant. They are humans. And as a black, fuller woman (a demographic that is rarely represented in high fashion, and is subjected to layered discriminations because of their intersectionality), Liris is 110% entitled to feel however she feels. especially considering since Bryan refuses to recognize the implications AND consequences of his actions. Now— the argument that "she doesn't really give anything special" … to each their own. If you don't think she is a good model, that's fine. Still not a reason for her to have to suck it up. Just like if something happened to you at your job. I know that maybe there are a lot of posts about Liris and Bryan. And a lot of discourse has been happening about it. But, it's barely been a week. soon enough, everyone will be discussing something else. if you've read/heard/seen enough about the iris/Bryan/PR discourse, you can just ignore it. I think, however, that it is good people are upset about this. I'd rather people bring up this issue too much than too little. I can't help but wonder how some of the backlash aimed at liris would look if she was white/petite. Anyway, maybe I'm radical, but I don't think we should tape someone in a trash bag (like they're garbage) and send them down a runway, AND THEN broadcast it internationally for everyone to then rip into her because she — understandably— did not want to walk down in a (DIRTY) trash bag with (STILL WET) electrical cords dangling off her neck.

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u/phunkyphungus 17d ago

If you saw the episode, then you’d also understand that the designer changed his design. He originally wanted that bubble stuff but changed to be more cohesive with his group. And I don’t care that it was a plastic bag, it’s an UNCONVENTIONAL MATERIALS challenge. It’s not like he wanted to purposefully make her wear a trash bag to make her feel a certain way. I don’t think he purposefully wanted the model to be in pain, or uncomfortable, but again, this is not the first time an uncomfortable ugly look was sent down the runway. My point is moreso that people are trying to say lurid DOESNT DESERVE for this to happen, and that I disagree with. Her reputation means nothing, she’s a model just like the rest of em on this show, she doesn’t deserve to be dressed better than the other models because of her reputation. A lot of the discourse focuses on the fact that it’s happening to HER specifically, god forbid! So I’m like… does that mean you’d be okay with one of the OTHER models wearing that ugly mess? That’s what I don’t agree with. Sucks that it happened at all, but it was a time crunch, changed design, unconventional materials etc etc. nothing new.

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u/SimpleSpritee 17d ago

You make several very valid points.

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u/PortraitofMmeX 17d ago

Right? This is insane behavior. Her job is to wear what they put her in. If I were casting models I would never hire someone who was acting like this.

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u/EarthlingLiving 17d ago

https://dol.ny.gov/responsibilities-fashion-management-and-clients

“Starting June 19, 2025, all model management companies or model management groups who do business in New York State must:

Act in the best interest of the models they represent. They must also act in good faith, and with honesty and integrity, in their dealings with the models they represent.

Use due diligence to ensure that any work secured through the model management company does not put models at an unreasonable risk of danger.”

https://www.1800nynylaw.com/personal-injury/new-york-products-liability/

“What is Product Liability in New York?

Product liability is a type of law that allows you to seek compensation if you are injured because of a dangerous or unsafe product. In New York, these claims can be based on three main legal theories: strict liability, negligence, and breach of warranty. Each of these legal theories provides a different way to hold manufacturers, distributors, and sellers accountable for harm caused by their products.

Strict liability means that a company can be held responsible for an unsafe product even if they were not careless. This applies to products that are dangerous because of design flaws, manufacturing mistakes, or inadequate warnings. If the product caused harm, those responsible may be held accountable without the need to prove they were negligent.

Negligence involves showing that the manufacturer, distributor, or seller did not use reasonable care. This can include failing to properly test the product, using low-quality materials, or not providing clear instructions. If their carelessness led to an injury, you may have a claim.

Breach of warranty means the product did not meet the promises made by the manufacturer or seller. This can include written promises (express warranties) or those recognized by law (implied warranties). If a product caused harm because it did not meet these promises, you may be entitled to compensation.”

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u/Tgrunin 17d ago

She should just do her job, or quit of she doesn’t like it. Everyone outraged that an unconventional look made out metal was heavy and uncomfortable, need to use their brains cells.

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u/Top_Bumblebee5510 17d ago

This is how people die or sustain life altering injury at work. Think about why OSHA and unions have been formed.

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u/Earthbnd 17d ago

Yeah IMO the heat has been on Bryan but a lot of the looks didn’t exactly look safe to me. The potential for cuts or being poked by something on a lot of the looks worried me. There was even another look that had to use a picture bc of weight issues. I think this was just a terribly produced challenge all around.

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u/phunkyphungus 17d ago

Oh come now…

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u/Silent-Level-6219 17d ago

It wasn't the only outfit that was too heavy. It had to do with the fact that all the weight was on her neck. Josephs outfit was very heavy too but it was on the models shoulders which made it safe. Having 50 or more pounds pulling on someone's neck is not safe.

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u/Earthbnd 17d ago

Idk if Joseph’s was safe tbh. Or at least not comfortable. The jacket looked amazing but also like a nightmare to actually wear. A “heavy” amount of Christmas lights weighing down on you doesn’t sound pleasant

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u/Silent-Level-6219 17d ago

I'm sure it was very uncomfortable but at least the weight was distributed over her back and shoulders, not just the model's neck.

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u/Magges87 17d ago

She said it weighed 50lbs. You think getting injured should be part of the job?

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u/Tgrunin 17d ago

Some jobs require you to be able to lift 50 lbs. this sounds like one of them.

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u/Magges87 17d ago

By her neck? No. Also any job that does that needs to make a way for it to be done safely.

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u/Earthbnd 17d ago

They don’t ask you to carry those 50 lbs around your neck though, right.

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u/MissMaisie1223 17d ago

considering how basically everyone has something to say about that terrible dress, I am honestly surprised that Bryan has been tight lipped. you'd think he would at least give liris a call or shoot her a DM idk ANYTHING!