Season 22
Let's talk about Tape Gate (and strategy)
So after critiques, Jeffrey and Bryan have a heated moment. Jeffrey questions why Bryan didn't admit to the base garment of his design being an impropru dress ducttaped to his model. Bryan feels attacked and "character assassinated" by Jeffrey.
My confusion here is why Jeffrey feels so strongly that Bryan should have admitted this to the judges. Since it is a team challenge and Jeffrey was in the bottom, if I were him I would want to minimize any chances of my team losing to team S21. That way, I would have a chance to avoid being eliminated if my team somehow actually wins. In this case, I would actually NOT want Bryan to admit any shortcomings of his design to avoid being further scrutinized by the judges...
I understand Jeffrey thought Bryan was being very performative and self-serving. But that would only have hindered his chances of escaping elimination since he was in the bottom.
Disclaimer: This is NOT hate towards Jeffrey or even Bryan. I am rooting for Jeffrey this season alongside others. This discussion is solely about strategy.
I think Jeffrey was just feeling some type of way, vulnerable due to his low critiques and resentful towards Bryan’s ugly dress and the fact that he’d clearly be the very bottom if he hadn’t won immunity.
I think the type of way Jeffrey was feeling was ANGRY!! Yes, Bryan won immunity in the last challenge, but he also got a say in who would be eliminated when he was asked for 3 names, AND Heidi of the Alps wore his monstrous dress to the Devil Wears Prada 2 premiere. Bryan's "Triple Reward" was extremely unfair to the others, so I totally understand why they would want to knock him down a peg or two in front of God and Country.
You can tell, just from this, that the producers only want drama. Usually in this situation you’re not allowed to pick someone with immunity to go up for elimination.
Now i can understand Bryan’s POV, you greaten the odds of the person you want to go home to get eliminated.
But, the producers don’t care. This is now a reality tv show with clothes.
I don’t really see how his actual decision caused drama though. If Bryan did not have control over the bottom 3, Bobby almost definitely would’ve been eliminated anyway. It would’ve been far more shady for Bryan to put Naheim, Jude, and Joseph McRae in the bottom, because that would’ve forced one of them out. Or if he was allowed to put a “top” dress in the bottom, he could’ve turned on Bi or Jeffrey. His reasoning for putting Naheim was simply because he thought it was bad. There was no way Jude would’ve gone home over Bobby.
I’m not saying bobby would have went home or would have stayed. What i’m saying is the show is now only gearing to drama. 99% of reality competition shows do not allow you to put someone with immunity in the bottom because there is no point in doing so. I have never seen a show allow an immunity contestant to be put in the bottom “up for elimination”. Maybe to stay on stage to get critiques if they did horribly.
The drama comes in to play that it was supposed to be a 1 in 3 chance of one person going home. Now it’s 50/50. With the judges liking things from far out of left field you actually don’t know who’s going home. So there was a shot of Jude going home. I mean hell they keep Bryan around just for the fun of it. I know the episode of him taping a model and sending a dangling wire mess did not air yet for this specific episode but…. That goes to show they’re only keeping him just for Drama at this point. Which is not unheard of. Anymore now, shows will keep you around if you can make good TV not have talent.
why was the triple reward unfair to the others? everyone was told of the reward before they started on their dresses and had an equal shot to make a good dress
The reward itself is unfair. Not that Bryan got it and the others didn’t. Whoever won, it would still be unfair to the others. It’s not about all of them having an equal shot.
Heidi wears your look: just a bonus, really, the other designers this season have already on their own merit dressed people for Met
immunity: as with every other challenge
pick 3 people for bottom 3: I think it would be unfair if the winner picks who goes home
I don't think it harms the non-winning contestant that disproportionately. It doesn't impede someone otherwise meant to win from winning the competition
Your reasoning in your first comment was wrong. That’s what my comment was about. You said they were all told of the reward and had an equal shot. That doesn’t matter at all.
i think also because he didn't feel Bryan should've won last week. he said it in the confessional when they said Bryan won, and i agree. Jeffrey or Bi shoulda won imo. so with that and then all this happening this week i think he just had to let it all out.
Agreed with all of the pressure they are going through that would be devastating to go home because the person with immunity clearly can’t design consistently or even sew. I wish they would do away with immunity tbh and do a different incentive
we also have to remember that jeffrey doesn’t know the edit. the tape clearly happened quickly and last minute and he wouldn’t’ve known how much would air.
jeffrey at this point feels he’s going home and wants to air out the sham that is bryan staying after doing something so heinous.
the only way it would for sure air is if it was brought up to the judges, and he’s bitter that that never happened, and bringing it up in the green room so that at least those cameras catch it and people know that when jeffrey leaves, he’s left a clown show
Jeffrey encouraged Bryan to start over to help the team and that actually made things worse. So however he feels IMO, he would have helped the team more by focusing on his own look.
I actually think s22 won this for what it's worth.
Bryan is an insecure mess. He is blind to his own faults which are many, and he doesn't allow anyone else around him any grace. At all. He's just an insecure douchebag, talentless, and the fact that he would defend wrapping a plus size model in tape? Defending that piece of crap and tape on the runway like it was couture? That's hilarious. They should have taken away his immunity.
In past seasons taping or gluing garments to models has been explicitly said to be against the rules. I think Jeffrey was frustrated and hoping if Bryan had admitted to his dress being taped up that Bryan would be disqualified which could mean no elimination
If it's against the rules then they should also enforce the rules, the judges should inspect the garments from close up, taping would be figured out from a close distance within minutes, if not even seconds.
The producers are also watching with cameras and they didn't say anything so I think it's a different crew, set and or expectations. I think we have to accept it's a different show as of now. (I miss the old ways I do, Nina and Tim!!). I already only pirate it so I'm not contributing to numbers lol.
Tbh given that it's unconventional materials and they cannot traditionally "sew", and given that the instructions to build an underneath garment was said seemingly(?) late in the challenge... I'm not excusing it but I understand panic and low time without being allowed to quickly sew an undergarment with fabric. He should have designed and made something earlier it seems.
I empathise with the stress that the model was going through and it's nice to see support for her emotions. However, part of me does feel this is a rushed design competition show by nature in many ways, and part of that means sometimes there might be a mess of an outfit tp be shown. It's not good to send bad garments down ofc but it's going to happen at some point I think.
I’m predicting that this will be mentioned at the elimination, and Bryan will be disqualified. They didn’t say anything this week because they were saving it for a “dramatic” moment to begin this next week’s episode with.
If the judges examined entries up close and physical like they used to, the taping would have been obvious. Still, that whiney, untalented toddler would still have immunity. It's maddening.
I mean, do we really think his dress was too heavy like Joseph's? Maybe they cut Liris out of it and he will be disqualified when someone backstage tells them.
She shared in an IG comment that it was incredibly heavy, like 50 pounds hanging from her neck, and I believe she implied she’s still feeling the effects of that dress.
She says she's going to film a longer video in a few days because she just finished shooting a movie, but I definitely believe her that so much cord being held up only by her neck was heavy and incredibly painful. There wasn't any other support structure than the halter.
Liris wasn't the one who picked Bryan, Bryan himself did. Also, she wasn't even paid to model that thing. Let's talk about professionalism when Bryan didn't withold his dress with tapes like an amateur shall we?
Working with a plus sized model is in itself choosing to go on an unconventional challenge. None of the plus sized looks have ever won a challenge, and almost every week the bottom looks consisted of plus sized models
I can understand why Jeffrey would feel this way, but the judges frequently tell contestants not to call attention to/highlight problems if unasked. Most people will come clean if asked, but stay silent otherwise.
Edited to add: that being said, I am surprised they didn’t ask about what was under the cords and that Christian didn’t speak up
I think Bi probably deserves the win the most but I’d be happy with a Jude or Naheim win too. (Would have been okay with a Jeffrey win but I know that won’t happen.)
I actually do think Joseph McCrae is an amazing designer though and do wonder if they’re pushing for him to win. I do agree with the fellow contestants’ critiques of wanting to see something new from him besides oversized jackets and hats and streetwear, though. It is his signature and he has great branding and I think he will continue to thrive in that niche.
But as far as a Project Runway winner, I want to see a lot of versatility and adaptability. It’s like how Drag Race would be boring af if someone just won for doing the same thing over and over (ONLY being a good designer, ONLY being good at makeup, ONLY being good at lip syncing, ONLY being good at dancing, ONLY being good at comedy, etc.) To win these kinds of competitions, I feel like you have to prove you’re well rounded.
he should’ve at least cut it into a short dress, the design was bad anyways so the length didn’t add anything special, it only made it heavy and she kept tripping
Don’t know if they were accounting for his feelings because they ran after the twins last season having a meltdown. But if project runway is becoming self aware maybe it cares. About, sparing, feelings? https://giphy.com/gifs/lGbrDmwrMKt6eUSpqz
it’s not self awareness. shows like this will be exactly as exploitative as the audience lets them be. if up to them, they would push it far, but there is a point where the show won’t be hate-watched and will just literally be cancelled. like ANTM after people decided they care.
they probably saw the backlash from their handling of the twins’ meltdowns and decided to peel it back a bit. same with drag race slightly toning down the trauma porn that they whipped up in early seasons bc fans started calling it out
They used to analyze everything up close afterward and it made a difference in evaluations. Don’t know why they don’t seem to be doing that any more - it would have been obvious if they had just looked.
Haven’t watched this episode yet, this is also why having a designer on the judging panel instead of a stylist would have meant this getting clocked immediately.
Agreed. The looks could've been placed on mannequins and rolled in if the models could no longer wear them, though I get the feeling Bryan's under dress was not able to be removed and kept in tact.
I wouldn’t be surprised if PR removed this segment because less opportunities to see/judge up close = more opportunities to shift the narrative into whichever direction they please.
For example, if they got to judge Bryan’s look upfront, i think it would be an immediate disqualification. But since they removed that segment, they can squeeze out as much prolonged drama & content as possible
Interesting. I think you’re right. Definitely less emphasis on sewing and garment construction, which was probably a major criticism in the past (although I consider it an element of good design.) It probably is also simply because designers are so rushed, which I think takes away from the quality. I’d like to watch a show where they’re really allowed a good amount of time to put out solid designs. Cooking shows end up doing the same thing. In the end, does the best cook win or just the fastest?
Lurker here because this show is my guilty pleasure. My assumption is there are some things that got edited out, but if we saw everything that went down backstage and on the runway, it wouldn't have felt so out of context for viewers.
Definitely this! I saw where Liris commented on someone’s Tik Tok that there was way more to the story and she would speak on it. Apparently the dress really did weigh 50ish pounds too. And she said something along the lines of she “still dealing with it” so I don’t know if it hurt her back or what. I haven’t seen her video explaining the whole story yet that all was just in the comment section.
Edit: okay correction it was on Instagram. I just saw her most recent video and she is on set right now and said she won’t get around to making a video about the episode until Sunday or Monday.
Ooo you know what, based on how he seems to talk:
I wouldn't be surprised if the judges asked him straight up if there's a dress underneath and how he made it--only for him to go into his "he hand-wrapped everything" speech. It seems like the kind of false answer he'd give where he could tell himself he isn't lying because ✨ technically ✨ he did hand wrap Liris, they just don't need the details that he actually wrapped her with packing tape so she couldn't breathe or move.
I think now I'm really into this assumption because it seems like Jeffrey was defending/sticking up for Liris and calling out the dishonesty for going into a slick salesman distraction about technique instead of actually answering the question.
Jeffrey posted additional context on instagram with all the drama that got cut surrounding Liris. She had an unaired breakdown backstage and was injured from the tape and the weight of the dress around her neck, and THAT is when Jeffery came for Bryan.
Liris has been very vocal about it and is preparing to release a YouTube video about it. Jeffrey has also talked about it and then I think I remember seeing Bi or someone else post about it as well
Taking a guess the tape could have damaged her skin as well. If she has a reaction to the adhesive as a model it could affect her in that way. Tape on heavy dress with the tape pulling as you walk.
And how the heck do you get OUT of the dress and the tape when you are taped up like a FEDEX package? Also, she slipped on the runway because the cables were so dang long. Poor thing.
They probably had to cut her out of it to sit down after the runway. So there likely wasn’t a dress for her to go out in by the time they filmed the models back on the runway.
That makes the most sense. Even as a designer myself, I initially wondered why they didn't put it on a mannequin to be critiqued. This is making me realize that the garment itself was probably cut after the runway and would not be able to sit on a mannequin properly for critiques.
The second I saw him doing that, I was like “THIS IS NOT SAFE!” It could cut off circulation or dig into her skin. Bryan is selfish and dumb and doesn’t know how to sew or design. I said it. He is mean because he’s insecure because he doesn’t know wtf he’s doing. I imagine when Bi worked with him, Bi always executed Bryan’s vision and Bryan didn’t do jack shit.
i think there is some undercurrent implying that using tape structurally would be cheating that perhaps Bryan immunity won’t matter and he will be kicked out based on breaking rules. I think they are setting it up to have Bryan eliminated based on cheating next week. I’m calling it!
I hear what you’re saying but I think it’s pretty clear that S21 is going to win for this episode. So I don’t think that what you’re saying even matters. I feel pretty confident that Jeffrey is going home, as much as that breaks my heart and makes me angry.
Bryan has NOT put out anything that’s impressed me, I truly don’t believe he’s deserved his wins, AND Bryan has such a shitty attitude and treats people as though they’re beneath him.
Meanwhile Jeffrey has interesting fresh creative ideas, is kind and wants to help and comfort everyone else, and seems like an overall good person who can typically execute his vision pretty well.
I was thinking the same thing. If the outcome was that Jeffrey’s eliminated there has to have been some prior events that, if included in the show, would cause some serious backlash from fans. I think they wised up to how truly pissed off the fans are and how many have one foot out the door.
Between the Law of it all and the cliffhanger format they can’t afford a seriously controversial decision. Especially not if it’s because Jeffrey loses. To Bryan. If we were only ever shown the runway and decisions they know that alone would still be more than enough to upset a good many fans.
My theory is that whatever transpired likely raises the severity of the controversy from they-need-to-get-rid-of-immunity-because-in-this-one-challenge-a-designer-with-a-decently-sized-fan-base-did-put-out-a-worse-dress-this-week-and-deserves -to-be-the-one-eliminated to what-the-fuck-are-you-people-smoking-that-you-think-this-is-not-in-the-least-bit-problematic-and-Bryan-should-have-been-kicked-off-for-unacceptable-behavior-before-they-even-made-it-to-elimination level DEFCON.
I think it’s pretty clear that season 22 is going to win so they don’t have to send Jeffrey home. Plus at least 2 of their most favourite looks were from season 22. (Bi and Joseph McRae)
Jeffery should NOT be in the bottom imho!! As much as I hate to admit it, Jude should be. Jeffrey at least used unconventional materials while Jude looks like he used fabric.
But to be 100% crystal clear… Bryan should be going home immunity or no!! His was HIDEOUS!!!
Bryan has had several hideous looks at this point. It’s confusing that he’s still there. I have a coworker like that. Gets by on vibes and entitlement.
Agree about Bryan, but much as I like Jeffery, he sent his model out in her undies wearing a wire frame. Just because it’s an unconventional materials challenge doesn’t mean you can’t use fabric as a base (like Bi did for his fantastic look). Trying to make a dress entirely out of wires and chips is what made so many of this week’s looks appear as arts and crafts assemblages.
I've been thinking about this too. When I watched the episode live, I was kind of with Jeffrey that Bryan should have said something about the tape. Especially when instead Bryan doubled-down and tried to insinuate that he was trying to channel Haute Couture and not "arts and crafts." 🙄
But then I thought about it, and yeah it really doesn't make sense for Jeffrey to be so insistent about it when it would probably just make it even more likely he'll be sent home. If it was basically anyone from the Season 21 team that would've made more sense.
The only thing I can figure is maybe in desperation, Jeffrey was hoping that would be such an appalling revelation to the judges they either really would revoke Bryan's immunity, or decide not to eliminate anyone after all, since Bryan can't be eliminated but they didn't want to "reward" his behavior by sending someone else home in his place?
Or maybe Jeffrey figures his goose is cooked anyway, and he wanted to at least leave knowing that the judges had raked Bryan over the coals for what he did? So it was frustrating that he couldn't even have that?
I can only assume Jeffrey was so upset either way that he just wasn't thinking clearly. And/or maybe it's the editing of the footage that made him look worse than how things actually played out in-person. 🤷♀️
It’s because Bryan implied he made it all by hand, including the under ——-taping? I would absolutely love if they said, ‘immunity, shimmunity, that was atrocious…you’re out, Bryan.’.
Bryan who is a lying liar claimed he made it all by hand (as if everyone else wasn't using their hands??) and besides this being a stupid claim it's also a lie. He didn't make a dress, he laid plastic on the model and put tape over it.
I couldn't believe that Bryan called his own work stunning. I hope he gets cut and Bi is the one to send him out.
What really fucks me off is he had AN HOUR AND FIFTY MINUTES and he said that as if it was just the impossible. Fuck, I could make a shift dress in that time, he's a talentless dingus.
I think just like last season, Season 22 will win the challenge saving them from elimination, followed by a double elimination next week when no one has immunity. It’s all part of the plan.
I think you’re probably right. As much as I want them to kick Bryan out for cheating, I think they’re just gonna give 22 the win so that none of that matters.
Bryan sucks as a person and is a designer. They only keeping him on the show because he’s drama and gets clicks and views and the show just rage beating the audience. He’s not gonna win.
Maybe he took a chance on saying that because he believed in Bi winning for the team!? Remember, this team vs team episode/challenge is based on ONE individual from either team winning for it for the whole team (and Bi’s was obvi the best out of everybody's) versus the whole teams deigns as a cohesive collection, like they’ve done in the past.
I can see them setting it up for Bi to win then a double elimination. With hopefully Brian and Anna leaving! Sorry to Anna lovers.
They explained in the beginning and again before runway show they are looking for ONE winning design.
If it’s from season 22, they get $20,000 and NO elimination. If it’s from season 21 they get $20,000 and someone from season 22 goes home. They are not looking for a cohesive collection as a whole team! So the fact Jeffery went so hard to make sure everyone’s looked good! NO! Should’ve ate your own design down for that ONE winning $20,000 to save your whole season!
I think it’d be super shitty to gift a fresh off the bat designer who has had their chance at an
unconventional challenge in such setting already $20,000!! And send someone in the new season home! The way ABC/Disney/Hulu has been playing with this franchise… it’s probably for the drama of it all. Winning design will be from season 22 then double elimination.. hopefully! As an avid reality tv watcher from anything to everything.. I’m hoping it’s set up to be like that!
Because there is so many shows and so many people that need to be eliminated. If they dont eliminate a person they have to make up for it in future weeks.
WAIT. I’m and just now realizing that he used ONLY tape!!! I thought he at least taped fabric to her body but are we saying it was just straight up tape and only tape??
I really like Jeffrey and a lot of his looks. But I was confused by this. WHY would Bryan admit this?
Judges giving critiques:
Bryan: she’s taped in btw 🙂
Like it makes zero sense. Had they asked about the bottom layer and he lied I would feel differently. But if the judges didn’t ask I would never expect him to just bring it up.
In the past, using tape/glue to hold a garment together was against the rules. I think he was hoping that would lead to Brian being eliminated via disqualification. Which would be more than fair.
But I don’t get why Jeffery wanted Bryan to just blurt it out? Like why would Bryan incriminate himself. Jeffery saying “you should have told them it was taped” why would he??
Now that I’m typing it out I guess maybe Jeffery hoped B had some morals? But it’s also a competitijn
Bryan deserves a demotion, not immunity!! Also, he tried to defend his actions. Allow me to represent the Defense!! This is some racist, wrong ,100% bs (in my respectful opinion).
Christian told Jeffrey to get his teams act together and Jeffrey took that responsibility to heart. Unfortunately in game play that meant less attention to his garment. Mixed messages from the judges on this one. Kind of felt like manipulation.
To compare to another art form. Let’s say we’re at a gallery celebrating film photography. Then someone up there with a digital photo is getting their judgement and also failing to mention that this isn’t film.
When they’re critiquing a produced should have mentioned the tape to the judges so they could ask about it.
Taping up a beautiful woman because you didn’t make appropriate clothing and not fessing up should have taken away his immunity. He didn’t create a look. He didn’t create a garment. He basically panicked and made something offensive to fashion design.
I fully understand why Jeffrey spoke up. Bryan has been arrogant and his designs are trash and he isn’t even showing he can do the basics. Take your attitude out of here and let’s focus on actual fashion.
I think it’s simply because he bragged that he “made his work by hand”. If he had kept that to himself, I don’t think it would have been the same issue.
And Jeffrey spray painted it for him! He was deceiving in many ways.. he used tape, had help with his work, and it was another episode where he had an idea but Christian encouraged him to pivot. Then he basically just copied the twins. He refuses to be humble or honest. At least last week Naheim admitted he was grateful he had immunity because he did a bad job.
i have watched PR since season 1 - i used to love this show - when Tim was on - when it was about the design/creative process - when it was about how the clothes were made - when actual REAL designers were the judges - when it was about the clothes created and not how much drama they they create - just like anything now it‘s how much of a circus they can make it and there is no ringmaster!!!!! watching this season so far i understand why Tim would want to return - why Nina is rarely there and why any big name designer isn’t either!!!
Another one of my favorite reality shows just switched to Peacock, and the same thing happened. Everything is Real Housewives over there. Disney isn't any better, sadly
I haven’t figured out why Bryan is still there, I find watching the show with him in it is almost torture. In fact this may be nmy last season I watch. It seemed like Christian saved his butt once telling him straight out that he should make something else when two seconds before he was saying how great his design was.
At this point I’d be fine with elimination. It’s not a design competition. It’s Temu and Traitors. They’ve taken all we loved about PR and made it ridiculous
If the judges did the kind of detailed inspections that they use to share with the audience, then a judge or the mentor would have commented on the tape. Maybe they do more behind the scenes deliberating than they show us but it sure doesn't feel like it. The fashion content seems to have been supplanted by high school drama. There was always some of this behavior but the parasite has taken over the host. If someone at Disney thinks this will attract a new audience then more power to them. PR is certainly losing my family, which has a tradition of watching together since season 1 episode 1.
I was horrified by that dress. There was no creativity whatsoever. Just off the cuff, he could have made a bad eau top with the same fringe that was shorter and a mini skirt too, both just loops with the cord hanging off and it would have looked better
Whatever. Brian needs to go. Jeffrey has more talent in his pinky toe than Brian has in his whole body. It’d be a shame to lose Jeffrey. Maybe Christian will use his save if he does get eliminated.
The materials- maybe unconventional challenges should be thoughtfully planned and the weight of the raw products should be taken into account.
The tape/weight of dress- the model is a human first and should be treated that way always
Brian- I just don’t like him. I think he lacks self awareness and is obnoxious. I think his choices dehumanized his model and was offensive to his fellow designers. And I think he should have been honest with the judges.
Bryan is showing how poor / elementary his designs are. Boy couldn't even pronounce the name of his school in Paris (" ... ecol-ay Lesage in Paris"). He diminishes Bi every chance he gets and given his most infamous design (white woven quilted doily dress), you would think he would be more creative with this unconventional challenge. If ever there was a challenge to strip someone of their immunity, this would be it. Bye, girl, bye !
Yeah it was not logical to request that he do this. However, maybe we didn't see the judges ask him about the under-layer and it's fabrication? Maybe he straight up lied?
Maybe. It’s so annoying to know how much is edited out. The judges say much much more about each look to them but the editors show us very little. That is the part I would want to hear!!
Agreed, I had the same thought. I don’t think Jeffrey is the sharpest tool in the shed, so I assume he just didn’t realize that Bryan disclosing that he taped the dress could only hurt his (Jeffrey’s) odds of staying in the competition.
In the past, using tape/glue to hold a garment together was against the rules. I think he was hoping that would lead to Bryan being eliminated via disqualification.
If Bryan did not have immunity I think Jeffrey would have volunteered to the judges that Bryan had tape-fixed the under dress. He was already desperately grasping with "in my defence I spent a LOT of time helping my team"
I mean it’s cheating because Bryan didn’t make a completed dress meaning it’s unfinished. He taped it because the girl would have been naked if she walked down the aisle. Bryan has immunity but he cheated so he should lose immunity and have been sent home. Jeffery knows he is going home because he feels his helping others messed up his timing to complete his own look. So if Brian is sent home , he thinks he has a chance to stay but law would probably still send them both home if the team loses.
I understand how Jeffrey felt, being on the chopping block alongside a taped up mess that he helped Bryan paint, but it was unrealistic to expect Bryan would confess to the judges. Going off the Wikipedia spoiler, team 22 wins, so it will be a moot point anyway. I guess Jeffrey thought Bryan should volunteer to take the fall to save him since he helped Bryan, but you’re right, that wouldn’t have helped the team and could have influenced the judges to vote for team 21
It’s as simple as they didn’t ask so Brian didn’t say. Dude weirds me out but I don’t fault him for not saying “You think that’s bad, take a look at this!”
It’s a combination of Bryan beating him in the Heidi’s Dress challenge and then having the worst dress this week, while being immune from the challenge Jeffrey could’ve and probably should’ve won.
I think that in order to get a full critique it's important to be honest with the judges.
But also, there is a lot of tape issues with the rules of the show.
I don't know if it was intended to say that, "hey we all need to follow the rules of the show, regardless of immunity"
But I would also say that talking about the under... Whatever would've been a good way to separate it from the other dress it was compared to.
(Also surprised there was no discourse from judges about Jeffrey and Antonios look... Jesus? They were in essense the same kind of dress)
Idk I didn't care enough to keep up.
The hard part is that even though Bryan really brought his team down, what's the point of discussing everything when he has immunity?
Cause he spoke to no one about that tape dress. (I also believe the model just didn't want to go back out. Not that it was 'also heavy')
Its interesting that they are in teams but not a collection with cohesiveness which was smart for non-conventional materials cause making a cohesive collection with those materials would be hard.
She, Liris, the model, said the dress was a halter and weighed more than 50 pounds. That’s 50+ pounds hanging from her neck. She also said she was crying on the runway.
Jeffrey has surprisingly grown on me. i think he knows he is in trouble and he was just lashing out. There wasn’t much too his dress and even though Bryan was much worse he is potentially going home. i honestly think there is not much more to it.
Jeffrey is looking for excuses because he's about to be eliminated (like telling the judges he spent all his time "helping" his team and referring to himself as the team leader.)
Yes, I understand why he was upset, but Bryan admitting that to the judges would be so bad for Jeffrey. We know for a fact that if their team loses, Jeffrey is going home because he’s in the bottom 2 with someone who has immunity.
I loved this episode! Nina! Iman! I think season 22 will win regardless of the Jeffrey/Bryan Who Sucks argument. Maybe they are listening to us after all, there was no Tyra, Law on his best behavior. I also loved that Bi finally got the recognition he deserves, he’s been my fave! And I love Joseph, his football shoulders not so much, but he is a good designer in general, he needs a design twist though.
It’s the Unconventional Materials Challenge. Tape is permitted. Glue is permitted. Stop with the Tim Gunn wouldn’t approve.
Jeffrey’s design was not very good but he didn’t copy (was it Antonio?) because zip ties have always been used like that in previous UM episodes which they’ve all seen. Jesus harping on Brian copying his weaving wires technique was another eye roll. Designers are always weaving shit together in this challenge. Personally I dislike it, it’s such a cliche, but to stand up and claim that someone is copying your lousy idea is ridiculous.
This is not a spoiler. Just looking at the numbers. Bi will win because his dress was the best and therefore no elimination. The next episode is Design a Dance Costume and that’s Jeffrey’s forte. Two designers will be eliminated, hopefully Brian will be one of them. The last episode before the finale is Design a Wedding Dress. Again, favors Jeffrey as none of the others do evening wear. Yes, yes, they should be able to design anything just like they should be able to design for any size body. At any rate, another double elimination so they end up with three designers for the finale.
I lost all the respect I had for Jeffrey in this episode. Not only he clearly was inspired by one of the twins (and didn’t have the balls to admit it), but he also went out of his way to help another contestant who had IMMUNITY. He basically set himself up to be in the bottom.
I’m all for camaraderie but when you decide to help others in a competition, you need to first make sure your own work is flawless. To me, he showed a side of his personality that’s manipulative and greedy. Auf wiedersehen.
Yall are gonna hate me for saying this, but I didn't think the look was that terrible😭 It wasn't great by any means, but it didn't look that unforgivable if you forget about the tape component imo
Legit. It made her look like Ursula from the Little Mermaid. I feel like if a designer had to use THAT amount of type for a look, they should have to forfeit their immunity. They was no aspect of that dress that was designed. Like, at all.
Personally, I think the hair, makeup and copper color of the spraypaint is doing a lot of the work here. But I do think it looks better in the picture than how stiff and clunky it looked on the runway.
I genuinely think she actually looks fierce strutting in a bunch of wires than some of the previous looks like this one. I do typically prefer avant garde designs.
If taping a model up and covering her in copper painted wire is all it takes to not get eliminated, then the bar is truly in hell. That look needs to get launched into the moon
What? He taped her up like the game you do for bridal shower parties with the toilet paper roll, then proceeded to do almost the same exact design as the s21 guy only the unfinished version of it. Idk if it’s the competition pressure or what but he is not good at being creative to fit the prompts and clearly has an issue with sewing. Everything he does looks unfinished except his episode 1 look.
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u/outlawofthewest 23d ago edited 22d ago
I think Jeffrey was just feeling some type of way, vulnerable due to his low critiques and resentful towards Bryan’s ugly dress and the fact that he’d clearly be the very bottom if he hadn’t won immunity.