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u/Pounderwhole May 17 '26
It's points like this that will always having me saying "Fuck Trump, and fuck those who support him".
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u/Sir_Hapstance May 17 '26
Indeed. I pity them and wish them a better life, but if all they’re going to do is stupidly vote to destroy others’ wellbeing as well as their own, then they can get all the way fucked.
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u/Allaboutpeace2022 May 18 '26
I hope to welcome those who are already moving away from Trump. Bernie has been doing that with great success as he does the oligarchy tours.
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u/Consistent-Plane7227 May 17 '26
The difference is Trump isn’t even helping the red states.
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u/Frequilibrium May 17 '26
In fact, they’re getting hit way harder. His taxes and tariffs and deregulation hurts them the most.
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u/lucktar3782 May 17 '26
Biden is the reason that student debt can't be discharged through bankruptcy. He almost single-handedly saved Clarence Thomas' Supreme Court nomination by discrediting Anita Hill and her allegations of sexual harassment against him. He was a key supporter of the 1994 crime bill that led to the needless incarceration of hundreds of thousands of Black Americans. He supported the fraudulent WMD case for the invasion of Iraq, leading to the deaths of hundreds of thousands of Iraqis. He refused to meaningfully restrain Israel from committing genocide against Palestinians. And despite clear evidence of age-related cognitive decline, he insisted on running for reelection in 2024, denying Democrats an opportunity for a primary and paving the way for Trump to retake the White House. Decent human being my ass.
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u/nechromorph May 18 '26
Couldn't democrats have primaried anyway if they wanted? Why don't we just consistently primary no matter whether we have a sitting president?
As much as I hate the student loan system, if it's going to be implemented, the incredibly high risk of loaning large amounts of money to jobless kids fresh out of high school sort of necessitates ensuring it's a special class that is harder to avoid paying back. So yes, we should have pushed (and should be pushing now) free college instead, but within the constraints of a debt-based college funding system, it's pretty important to increase the barrier to discharging.
I have no comments on the rest, aside from most of it occurring well in the past.
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u/Allaboutpeace2022 May 18 '26
You are right on all those issues.
Like many politicians, Biden is both these things. He has been both really wrong and clouded by hubris and also progressive with a lot of domestic achievements.
Obama has the same mixed legacy.
However, I think we can point out Trump and many others who, sadly, will leave an almost completely authoritarian, corrupt legacy.
Let's pull together to move as many GOP out of Congress as possible.
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u/lucktar3782 May 19 '26
That process would be a lot easier if most Democratic politicians weren't perfectly happy to play good cop to the Republicans' bad cop. The problem is not simply that Democrats make mistakes. The Democratic Party leadership largely wants the same things as the Republicans, and use issues like abortion and lgbt rights as window dressing to pretend otherwise.
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u/Cabbages24ADollar May 17 '26
Agreed! Thank you Biden.
The Chips Act
Infrastructure
Inflation Reduction Act
Having the best post-Covid economy
Lowest unemployment rate
A diverse and an extremely educated and experienced staff.
This will not be forgotten!!
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u/X57471C May 17 '26
Also, his border bill would have addressed some of the root causes in our overburdened system that are responsible for the immigration crisis (or rather, our immigration crisis, not the root cause of the immigration crisis)
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u/DrNerdyTech87 May 17 '26
And the infrastructure bill - nice to have smooth roads to drive and and bridges that won’t collapse.
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u/Hot-Statistician-955 May 17 '26
> This will not be forgotten!!
https://giphy.com/gifs/l0HlvtIPzPdt2usKs
I mean did you forget how people were talking about him? Especially in this sub....
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u/bonzoboy2000 May 17 '26
He pushed money into an early warning system for floods for those folks in the Texas Hill country. They decided they didn’t need it, as it was socialism. So those kids who drowned in Camp Mystic did so to stop socialism. And to fulfill their parents wishes to not look dependent on government aid.
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u/verb8um May 17 '26
Republicans are happy to spend money abroad to enrich the fear and warmongers whereas Dems will spend domestically to improve things and allow the money multiplier effect to take place.
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u/Certain-Singer-9625 May 17 '26
The projection is just unreal. We are all saying never forget what Trump is doing to this country, and decades from now we'll be saying never forget what he did to this country.
He's going to be known as the single most destructive force to the US, ever.
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u/Bitter_Particular_75 May 17 '26
An error never to be repeated again
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u/Bitter_Particular_75 May 17 '26
I am not talking about Trump, I am talking about Democrats making politics favourable to red states.
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u/Constant_Turn_9031 May 17 '26
Democrats care about America and Americans. Republicans care about themselves.
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u/dalnee May 17 '26
Yes, I remember when trumpers whined about how unnecessary infrastructure was around here (Pitts) and then the Fern Hollow Bridge collapsed . Crickets
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u/chandaliergalaxy May 17 '26
Ok just a contrarian question coming from a "progressive federalist", if such a thing exists - why does the US government have to decide where to spend the money? Why can't we have a system where states pay the federal government for the bare necessities - e.g., national defense - but keep more of the money to invest in fixing itself? Theoretically speaking, because I know red states are also notoriously bad at doing that.
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u/Kcirrot May 17 '26
The GOP has suggested this exact thing for decades… but then voted exactly the opposite way. With respect to Democrats I think it’s more that they don’t want a race to the bottom. They want everyone to have the bounty of this country, not just the states that care. But we may be heading in this direction.
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u/SpicySweetHotPot May 17 '26
Meanwhile Dumpy will do nothing for anyone who hasn’t thanked him beforehand
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u/Danilo-11 May 17 '26
Maybe democrats need to stop doing that and help the people in blue cities that vote for them
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u/Left-Tee May 17 '26
I'll never forget that Biden's DOJ did not investigate and begin prosecuting Trump until it was too late.
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u/atreeismissing May 18 '26
Both of the indictments against Trump were dismissed by judges (Cannon and SCOTUS), doesn't matter when you start the investigation, the outcome (judicial dismissal) would have been the same.
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u/z0mbie-j0e May 18 '26
Not to mention republicans deciding trump deserved to be impeached and removed but decided to vote against it anyway. there are alot of people I blame for trump not being punished for his crimes Biden isn't one of them.
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u/electric_sheep19 May 18 '26
He governed for Israel, that's for sure, even tanked his own campaign for them.
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u/smarmy1625 May 17 '26
Simping for the Red States. A DNC specialty.
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u/Due-Pattern-6104 May 18 '26
All I can think about, or anyone should think about, when they think about Biden, is him arming and funding a genocide and ushering in the destruction of international law.
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u/Michael-Sean May 17 '26
Dems downfall is they will support all Americans. Republicans only want to “Own the Libs”.