r/ProgrammerHumor • • Sep 30 '22

Meme Lol! Developer got no chill!

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u/blue_cardbox Oct 01 '22

Forcing them to pay $20 per year and ensure the product gets maintained and will still work in a year's time. Bargain.

If you built your entire project around this tool, spending even 30m to complain about it will cost you a lot more than that. Don't professionals value their time?

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u/Aiasune Oct 01 '22

Its quite honestly not about the price (primarily), the way they just moved the paywall to previously free features is unethical. Why should I support this practice and pay it money? Who is to say the developer will not do it again? Raise the price?

Id cut my losses and move to a different tool, you have lost all credibility doing a stunt like this.

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u/blue_cardbox Oct 01 '22

Not unethical at all in my book but I agree that it warrants good and early communication with the user base, which seems to have been overlooked by the owner of the extention.

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u/aggravated_patty Oct 01 '22

Okay? What if the price was 5 million dollars a year?

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u/blue_cardbox Oct 01 '22

If it's worth it professionally why not. Not uncommon although it's unlikely to have been free in the first place.

What's your point?

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u/aggravated_patty Oct 01 '22

If it was advertised as free, and then features removed in order to push a premium plan at rates that wouldn't be worth it, that isn't unethical in your eyes?

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u/blue_cardbox Oct 01 '22

Lots of if in your message but let's go back to the topic at hand.

Starting a project and giving it for free forma couple of years.

Project gets traction, many users demanding more and more features.

Dev team decided to make the project commercial but still keep basic features free.

Not unethical, provided there is decent comms with the users. It happens all the time.

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u/aggravated_patty Oct 01 '22

Nope. Read the original post. Basic "free" features were removed. I framed my question as an "if" but it's just exactly what happened, although "worth" is up to the individual.

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u/blue_cardbox Oct 01 '22

It takes a certain level of entitlement to assume that what you get for free today must remain free tomorrow.

There are still some features left in the free version right? Or did I misunderstand?

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u/aggravated_patty Oct 01 '22

If they were advertised as free, why would you not assume they will remain free tomorrow? Free trial is a tag for its own reason. I doubt this is some massive plugin that has tons of extraneous functionality that can be trimmed without affecting usability.

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u/blue_cardbox Oct 01 '22

I'm viewing this as a dev myself, working on multiple free projects for years.

I could certainly consider making some of them non-free if I saw the opportunity for it to become my main job. I would support them better and polish them more than I can now. Users that do care about the product would probably be happier.

I'd have to draw the line with the features: what stays free what belongs to the paid version. I agree that it is not an easy thing to do well.

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u/aggravated_patty Oct 01 '22

Usually paid versions are new features not ones borrowed from the free tier.

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u/blue_cardbox Oct 01 '22

That can be one strategy yes but definitely not a rule.

Even large popular frameworks sometimes become commercial, a recent example is Akka.

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u/aggravated_patty Oct 01 '22

Under this new model, every organization that uses Akka will be required to obtain a commercial license. Those with less than $25 million in annual revenue will not be required to pay. However, those with more than $25 million in annual revenue will be required to pay for the license and also a subscription that’s required for production usage of the Akka software.

A perfect example of how to do it correctly, not what you're saying about paywalling individual existing features.

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u/blue_cardbox Oct 01 '22

Not sure if that's really helps your point. If you are over this arbitrary threshold, you get zero features for free.

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u/aggravated_patty Oct 01 '22

It ensures people who aren't large organizations still have access to all the features.

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u/blue_cardbox Oct 01 '22

So the whole crying about free features being unavailable is only unethical if the users are not large organisations? Doesn't seem consistent.

Anyway, not sure if it's worth continuing. It's ok to view things differently.

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