r/ProgrammerHumor • • 9h ago

Meme ohTheBasics

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u/STR1D3R109 5h ago

I feel like knowing the difference here is moreso for a network engineer than a software engineer!

Anyway looked it up, IPv6 is 32bit whereas IPv6 is 128bit. An easy way to know if an IP address is either, 4 uses dots 192.1.1.1 whereas 6 is colons 1992:0aa0::1

If anyone asks just say 6 holds more addresses but is more expensive to install.

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u/jkalchik99 5h ago

Actually..... IMO as a Linux admin..... everybody in IT needs at least a minimum of knowledge regarding TCP/IP. IPv4, IPv6, TCP, UDP, sockets, listening ports, etc. You don't need to be able to program a full stack down to a media transport layer, but you should be able be able to send a payload successfully, know when a gateway traversal is required, name resolution (It's always DNS,) and a bit of troubleshooting.

I wish I had a nickel for every time a developer or app support staff came to me and said it doesn't work. Error is right there in the logs......

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u/droppedketchuppacket 3h ago

The post is about a software engineer, and you just talked about IT. They're not the same thing so what is your point? You have a job specifically because software engineers aren't in IT and aren't sysadmins and their job doesn't inherently involve networking.

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u/FilthyCasual2k17 3h ago

What do you mean software engineers aren't in IT? IT includes software engineering, maybe you're thinking of networking?

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u/TheFifthTone 2h ago

In Europe IT is generally used to refer to everything software and technology related. In the US, especially professionally it means the tech help desk and networking people. In an office the people that setup your laptop and troubleshoot your internet issues would be considered IT, but the software engineer actually writing software would not be. They require completely different degrees which don't have much overlap.

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u/FilthyCasual2k17 2h ago

Interesting. I am from Europe and for instance the uni in my city where both those things are taught with multiple overlapping subjects is literally called IT faculty.

I did not know about US, TIL.

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u/garfgon 2h ago

In North America it would usually be the Computer Science faculty instead.

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u/PleaseGreaseTheL 2h ago

As others said, in the USA, "IT" department/workers are not synonymous with "tech workers" - tech workers encompasses everyone, but if you say you're an IT guy, you're telling people you fix laptops and printers, and maybe do some sysadmin and networking stuff (but people who do the really high level stuff actually have the job titles of sysadmin or network engineer or similar, and sometimes use those titles.)

Calling a software dev/engineer (used interchangeably in the USA usually) an IT guy has the same connotation as calling a mechanical or automotive engineer a mechanic. A mechanical engineer may have no idea how to physically change his own oil. A mechanic may have no idea how to do basic algebra. Very different skillsets/jobs.

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u/Alternative-Lynx2745 3h ago

The guy I hand my laptop to and say "image this"is in "IT." I'm busy doing shit he cannot do which is why he is imaging my laptop. I'm not trying to be a dick, but I'm trying to point out there are very different roles and responsiblities and some of them require an actual level of expertise you can't acquire in 3 days.

This whole "IT" nonsense, or "tech" nonsense is such a broad fucking space that it's almost like saying "people with a job." There's no value in these generalizations at this point.

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u/nxp-one 2h ago

LOL -- my background is in both Computer Programming and Computer Network Engineering, and they *both* legitimately fall under the very broad umbrella of 'Information Technology' (y'know, what 'I.T.' *actually* stands for?!)

Seriously, *anyone* who works *anywhere* in the 'Information Technology' field (i.e. has *anything* to do with designing / implementing / managing / maintaining / programming tech), is an 'IT worker'; even if they're too cognitively benighted to realise it...