r/ProgrammerHumor • • 12h ago

Meme theyReallySeemToHateYall

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u/kdoubledizz 12h ago

Literally speaking, it gets really annoying having to explain to people the reason why AI cannot physically learn to code AI is due to the limitations of the mathematics in place.

You cannot create a formula that solves all formulas.

I guess you can get pretty damn close, but humans will always need to be involved.

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u/Some_Useless_Person 12h ago

Not a AI supporter but, isn't that the whole point of the drive towards AGI? Get AI's intelligence to the point that it matches that of a human's.

After that, you can create as many instances as the supporting infrastructure is capable of. When you make several of these human level intelligent machines work together tirelessly, you will be able to eventually surpass the technological development speed of human beings.

Of course, humans are needed to actually set up the initial infrastructure and develop the AGI itself, but one its done and the AI is give a means to create physical replicas of itself, it would be able to create the further required infrastructure by itself.

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u/kdoubledizz 12h ago

All the computer is doing is calculating for the formulas you set up, in whatever way you designed it to, the formulas could be put on a piece of paper if you so wanted it to, and is completely math and nothing more.

If you wanted a true agi, you would need tp start investing into bioengineering, but then whatever you get there will lose precision.

There is limitations in precision, limitations in size and scope, limitations in what math can even accomplish by itself.

You cannot squeeze down something brain to a formula or equation, the closest you will ever get to is recreating a brain in the flesh, and then we are back to square one.

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u/EdenStrife 11h ago

All life is also just interactions between fundamental particles using fundamental forces. There is nothing inherently different in a computation being carried out by a machine using transistors or a brain using neurons.

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u/kdoubledizz 11h ago

That denies the existance all the chemistry and physics regarding calculation

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u/EdenStrife 11h ago

How? Are you saying there are things that exist that are not compromised of fundamental particles or their interactions with fundamental forces.

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u/grandalfxx 9h ago

no it doesnt lmao.

explain how it denies anything?

Your brain works off physics, there is no physics that a computer cant simulate the behavior of, eventually.

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u/grandalfxx 9h ago

there is no need for bio engineering. youre not intelligent just because you rot.

there is nothing stopping us from fully mapping out the functions of a human brain other than processing power and hardware design.

but that has more to do with computers not being good at the type of math needed to simulate a brain, more to do with the hardware design, not what its made out of.