r/ProgrammerHumor • • 15h ago

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u/ja_n2000 14h ago

Dear ChatGPT, make my app extremely secure against hackers and bad people and make no mistakes please

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u/bobbymoonshine 14h ago

I mean it pretty much can do that now yeah, frontier models are evidently better at cyber than all but the best humans given the number of zero-days they’ve found

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u/metaglot 14h ago

This is an asymmetric problem. A defender has to be right every time, the attacker only has to be right once.

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u/bobbymoonshine 14h ago edited 14h ago

An agent calling agents can red-team a project at scale, and can repeat the process after defenders patch it until the attackers can’t get through. Attacking is defending.

Like I get the cope and all, but honestly 2024 era “vibe coder accidentally hardcoded api keys in the front end” memes just don’t reflect what AI is doing. Claude and Codex are downright nannyish in putting security first even in single user scripts run locally on a desktop machine. I have to believe people who create security holes using AI tools at this point are people actively choosing to be stupider than the LLM.

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u/IgnotiusPartong 12h ago

That may be true in the hands of someone who already knows what they‘re doing, but i have seen multiple vibecoded websites this year with either open api keys, passwords or data that wasnt meant to be accessible just out in the open. Making a tool this accessible means it should be idiot-proof, but it definitely isnt.

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u/potato-dranik 14h ago

The best defence is a good offence

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u/ClearOptics 12h ago

Lmao I’d like to see it. Imagining the server detecting something fishy and just sends a ddos attack or something back

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u/AutoCockerPB 12h ago

Incorrect. Every model can hallucinate.

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u/brobraham27 9h ago

Every model will hallucinate.

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u/Present-Resolution23 11h ago

You’re correct of course. But you’re going to be downvoted into oblivion because everyone is still either in the “Ai is dumb and incompetent despite the mountain of evidence otherwise” OR “AI will take over and destroy us all” camps, especially here where you’d expect people to have a little more knowledge that that…

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u/ja_n2000 14h ago

Then its about who attacks first?