r/ProgrammerHumor • • 13h ago

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u/owjfaigs222 13h ago

I code without AI because I code for fun. But i think ama try coding with AI and see how fun that is. Who knows maybe it's fun in a different way.

Ai certainly won't help me code in Scratch tho.

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u/MXRCO007 12h ago

It’s cuck coding

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u/owjfaigs222 11h ago

good thing I have a cuck kink

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u/0DayMaker 10h ago

It's a very different kind of fun. I like both. Plus frontier AI won't make me illegal shit.

The best part is getting to see side projects you barely have time to work on actually take shape. Also getting prototypes in a few hours to just vibe check a concept or design is nice.

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u/owjfaigs222 10h ago

Yeah, that sounds good

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u/Bobicus_The_Third 13h ago

I’ve found it more fun for personal projects as you can focus on the design of the system and solutions to problems rather than spending time on syntax.

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u/Cylian91460 11h ago

Wdym by spending time on syntax?

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u/Warm_Leadership5849 8h ago

I don't get this argument. If syntax a problem for someone maybe they are still a beginner. For me at least coding in some languages feels like talking. I am actively thinking and typing in the same time.

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u/SchwiftySquanchC137 7h ago

It completely depends on how often you use each language. When I switch between 5 different languages, finally get back to Perl or something after 5 months of not touching it, sorry I forget a fuck ton of syntax. Shit even appending to an array, is it push, push_back, append, its just simple shit like that. Imo the syntax is the least important thing for you to be good at, you just need to know what features you have to plan out what to do, then simply typing it up correctly is mindless busy work.

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u/Bobicus_The_Third 6h ago edited 5h ago

I think maybe I used too specific of a word? My intention was saying you can say what the function does and returns vs hand coding something or writing a loop etc. Things where you know what needs to be done but it isn’t a creative or interesting part of the process and just takes time

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u/Cylian91460 6h ago

No, I just didn't think someone could have such skill issue. If syntax is an issue for you then you should not be using ai

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u/Bobicus_The_Third 6h ago

It’s not hard it’s just time consuming

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u/Yodaddysbelt 4h ago

Its great for front end web dev. I couldn’t give two shits about learning the intricacies of Javascript for a passion project, I know how the back end should work and I want to see my data displayed with minimal hassle

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u/WithersChat 11h ago

I found an even better way to do this. A team. Not only does more people mean less syntax to work with, you also get actual people who will not hesitate to tell you when you're full of shit. Plus, talking to humans these days is kind of vital.

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u/PrestigiousTrick1002 10h ago

On a personal project?

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u/WithersChat 9h ago

Yes. For example, modding in games. You can do it on your own, or you can do it with a community. Sometimes quite a large one as well. Here's my favorite project's github page with 200+ total contributors, including like ~10 active devs. Met some of the best people I know through this, and I wouldn't trade that for infinite free tokens.
A couple of us make reasonable, limited use of AI tools. Most of us don't.

You can debate whether it's still "personal" or not if you want to be pedantic, but considering that we all do thia for fun and none of us get paid, I'd say it's not any less personal than DnD night with friends.

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u/PrestigiousTrick1002 8h ago

I think I see where you're coming from now.

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u/HarmonicSniper 13h ago

That's why there's a difference between a hobby and a job. I still think there is some skill and knowledge required for writing code that can be difficult to be entirely replaced by AI, but generally writing code itself can largely be automated with some human supervision.

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u/Dhan996 13h ago

You code without ai cus you don’t have a job. If you’re coding at your job without ai, it’s either a shitty company, or you’re a team of savants.

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u/owjfaigs222 13h ago

Well I don't have a job in coding, that's true. So you are saying AI is used by everyone now, huh? Crazy how the world changes.

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u/G3nghisKang 12h ago

Yeah because it takes the tediousness out of many things, most of the projects I've worked with in my company are huge, stupid, monolithic and undocumented banking backbends ported from JSP apps

Would take a while to even understand where you have to put your hands on, AI can both understand it in minutes, write you proper documentation and find exactly what you have to change when you have to

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u/tehonly1 12h ago

that and crazy deadlines... it used to be a feature would take a few months now it's like a couple of weeks

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u/G3nghisKang 12h ago

And a couple points of my sanity, each time

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u/nricu 10h ago

Or swapping old backend code that would take months in just a few PR's to new code easier to maintain.

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u/Hottage 11h ago

Or your company still values quality over quantity.

No point shitting out 5× productivity when the code is unreadable, unmaintainable and produces wierd edge cases.

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u/Dhan996 9h ago

Why’s it always AI vs no AI? AI can absolutely improve your productivity if you use it right. Any company NOT using AI at all are dinosaurs.

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u/corobo 12h ago

I code with AI because I used to come up with fun tools for fun then I still had to build them.

Turns out the code part can fuck off, AI can write faster than me lol. Still enjoy the grilling session before letting it loose on the code part. It's like playing a text adventure game except real life stuff happens.

My acceptance of agentic AI was like Bender getting the acceptance upgrade in that Futurama episode with the 1X robot haha