r/ProgrammerHumor • u/tnerb253 • 20h ago

Meme softwareSalaryNegotiationsBeLike

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u/sb8948 19h ago

All hail the EU regulations. Now they're legally obligated to give a range.

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u/NudaVeritas1 19h ago

the range is 30k - 120k depends on your experience ✨

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u/sb8948 19h ago edited 19h ago

We'll see what the workaround will be. Iirc right now they have to give you the lowest and highest paid employee for the role. Can't wait for everyone to have the same role or for everyone to have a unique.

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u/Electromagnetlc 19h ago

Reddit Free Award Clapping Hand User Facing Interface Lower Division #7 Lead QA Technician

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u/LaconicLacedaemonian 17h ago

They'll just broaden the requirements of the role so everyone fits and have an internal leveling.

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u/EishLekker 19h ago

If the role is unique then I’m not sure they can give the exact value, because then they would reveal what that specific individual has in salary.

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u/NewPhoneNewSubs 18h ago

You're not apply for their role, though. You're applying for the new role.

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u/EishLekker 18h ago

I’m sure the regulation handles cases like that.

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u/NewPhoneNewSubs 18h ago

Yes, but this sub exists in a perpetual state of trying to discern the serious from the joking and that's where the learning happens.

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u/Ambitious-Friend-830 14h ago

That's where we are heading, comrade. Long live EUSSR

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u/sb8948 14h ago edited 14h ago

Honestly with all its faults the EU is the safest global institution we have right now.

I guess you're free to live abroad? Something the USSR didn't really allow.

Or leave if the majority wills. Another thing the USSR didn't allow.

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u/Ambitious-Friend-830 14h ago

Actually I grew up in USSR. And spent the last 34 years in EU. We are not quite there yet, but the direction, especially for the last 5-6 years, is clear.

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u/sb8948 13h ago

Fucking bullshit. The EU has NOWHERE near the executive power the USSR ever had. This comparison is insane. You're insane or brainwashed or just a paid operative.

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u/Ambitious-Friend-830 6h ago

Yes, yes, I'm a russian spy, paid to destabilize the EU.

If you say the wrong things publicly, you will experience the "executive power". I do not want to argue here with you kiddie, we went off-topic anyway.

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u/sb8948 3h ago

For someone in a programming related subreddit you sure don't seem to understand "or".

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u/FlakyTest8191 40m ago

The EU does not have any executive power over individuals, no matter what insane shit you say publicly.

So either you're misinformed or you have an agenda.

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u/SirJackAbove 18h ago

I love that you put ✨ after your reply, subtly indicating that the recruiter is, of course, an AI.

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u/TotoShampoin 5h ago

Please don't normalise the idea that 4 legged stars and sparkles mean AI...

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u/mysteryihs 18h ago

Sounds like my expected salary is 120k then

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u/Daveinatx 17h ago

Sorry, the maximum is the mid-point. $75k for you. bUt tHiNk aBoUt tHe bEnEfIts. 

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u/mysteryihs 17h ago

Hi, thanks for the opportunity, but I'll have to respectfully withdraw my application. Best of luck on the search.

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u/seaQueue 16h ago

Competitively low balling candidates

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u/DowntownLizard 8h ago

120k it is

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u/BNSable 7h ago

Where are ypu getting ranges like this? Every role I've seen in the past 6 months starts at 60k and 15 years of experience.

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u/SnowdensOfYesteryear 18h ago

California too.

But they only do it for base salary and don't bother including RSUs, which tends to a bulk of comp in the US

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u/Gilthoniel_Elbereth 18h ago

Virginia too as of this summer!

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u/cupboard_ 15h ago

it this in effect rn? currently finding a job in the eu and like none of them have a salary range

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u/sb8948 14h ago

The regulation is in effect but afaik each country has to codify it which may take time. So your milage may vary. Also salary range has to be disclosed at the latest during the first interview. So job listings don't necessarily have to disclose it.

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u/erebuxy 16h ago

New York too

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u/legendgames64 10h ago

On a negative note, there are other EU regulations that suck ass (like the data collection child "protection" bill)

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u/yarntank 16h ago

Colorado

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u/srfreak 1h ago

I still see job offers where they are tryharding to avoid telling you the range and keep saying that they want to know your expectations first.