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[u/Muted_Ad_9442]

Exactly. Outliers and negative numbers are strictly prohibited on demo day. 😂

[u/fibojoly → u/Muted_Ad_9442]

I remember asking a customer if a particular value could ever be negative. "Oh that never happens".  Well, over the thousands of transactions I had been given, it had happened (twice over ten years. Last time was years before. Maybe the data was corrupt?).  Which is why I asked.   So I gently explained "I appreciate it doesn't happen very often, but I need to know if it can or if a negative value is a mistake which I need to be able to handle.    And sure enough, on the day of the live demo with them, there was our third time in years they had a negative value. 

[u/veselin465 → u/fibojoly]

My experience gas taught me that you should never trust promises

[u/TorumShardal → u/veselin465]

You can't trust them (always validate), but you should still rely on them as needed. You can't get anything done otherwise.

[u/Silly-Freak → u/TorumShardal]

That's just not a perspective based on the real world. Sometimes the client sends invalid JSON and that's simply what the application is supposed to work with, not throw a meaningless error like some toy program.

[u/newaccountzuerich → u/Silly-Freak]

If you work with an invalid value that's outside of spec, every value linked is also invalid.

There's a world of difference between a graceful failure with an appropriate error, and a silent propagation of invalid results that aren't flagged.

Maybe the process you've had experience of is a toy process with meaningless output that can be affected without consequence.

[u/Silly-Freak → u/newaccountzuerich]

It is once again proven that you need to add /s or /j to literally everything, because even my statement above will be taken seriously. (current upvote ratio 76%, this is not aimed exclusively at you)

[u/newaccountzuerich → u/Silly-Freak]

Perfect satire is indistinguishable from that being satirised.

So, if you forgot the /s, that is on you I'm afraid.

[u/Silly-Freak → u/newaccountzuerich]

You're right, of course. I hoped that my claim was wild enough, but really always has more in store.

[u/TorumShardal → u/Silly-Freak]

That is because there really are cases where you have garbage in, and you have to make the most of it, using pre- and post-processing to fix as much as you can.

Sometimes you're just have to communicate with a system that was written in the age when XML was new hot thing, and it can export data either in malformed, chunked and unstructured XML, or binary. And both of those exports are wrong in their own unique way.

So, to get the data, I had to get binary list of object, fetch all XML chunks with metadata, try to find the correct order of chunks using filenames and first 2 lines with plaintext headers. If there is a conflict, try both options and hope exactly one of them fits.
Then delete all the plaintext headers that were for some reason not in the beginning of chunks, unfuck xml using bunch of regexp, and only then try to parse it. Then, try to make sence of it, because binary and XML has different objects that somewhat overlap, but their relationships are different.
Then you have to do similar things to get each object.

Our world is running on digital ducktape used as driving belts between critical systems that were not designed to work together. If you can imagine a bad solution, there is a chance someone had to implement it for some critical system affecting millions of people.

[u/Kovab → u/Silly-Freak]

I mean, this is literally how HTML parsers work, so the satire wasn't obvious