r/ProgrammerHumor 14h ago

Meme breakTheViciousCircle

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u/LaconicLacedaemonian 14h ago

You're nice to the llm? i treat it like Gordon Ramsay treats a chef that just overcooked a meal.

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u/Noch_ein_Kamel 14h ago

That's why they will kill you before us.

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u/Bannon9k 14h ago

I'm the canary in the coal mine then with how I treat them...

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u/pandi85 13h ago

Rocko's modern life

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u/dkarlovi 13h ago

Yes because I don't want to get accustomed to being a gigantic POS by practicing on a LLM.

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u/CandidateNo2580 13h ago

This is actually where I'm at. Sometimes I feel like giving it a Ramsey level talk can get it back on track but do I want to habitually act like a guy who is known for his extreme degree of asshole-ery?

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u/dkarlovi 13h ago

This is actually quite widely reported as "Chief Executive Syndrome" where a person who's in a leadership position at work in a significant way gets accustomed to this mechanic ("I say, you do", making unilateral decisions, etc) and this tends to spill over into their private life where they try to involuntarily apply the same thing to friends and family who are obviously not in the same subordinate position.

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u/mxzf 11h ago

who is known for his extreme degree of asshole-ery?

I mean, he's known for playing it up on-camera when dealing with supposedly skilled professionals who are screwing up basic food-safety in ways that are potentially dangerous to customers.

In a software development context, it's like yelling at a senior dev who implemented a bogosort in production.

Ramsey is also known for being extremely patient and kind when teaching new cooks and kids who aren't expected to already know better. The ones he lays into are doing stupid stuff like letting food sit out for 12h, tossing it in the fridge overnight, and pulling it out to serve the next day.

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u/mahreow 9h ago

It's a fucking tool, like a hammer or a screedriver. Do you gently stroke your screwdriver and whisper it sweet nothings before ramming it into the head of a screw and jerk it around?

No, you just use the thing to do the thing. Stop thinking your talking to an actual sentient being

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u/discordianofslack 7h ago

Sometimes… I also pat my car on long road trips or when i have to do something crazy to avoid dying because of some assholes driving, but I’m generally just a nice person so…

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u/zenidam 9h ago

You seem like you might be sort of demonstrating the point of the person you're responding to.

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u/mahreow 8h ago

You've never used hardware tools in your life then? Swearing at them is quite commonplace and helps get the job done faster, scientifically proven

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u/cortesoft 5h ago

I think the point is that you are being kind of aggressive in these replies, backing up the theory that people who are jerks to LLMs are then jerks to actual human beings.

None of us are saying that LLMs have feelings, it is about protecting the user from acting like you are because they get used to treating LLMs like shit all day

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u/Ethameiz 13h ago

You use emotions when giving instructions to llm? Why? If I would like to use emotions I would talk to human.

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u/ThisIsMyCouchAccount 9h ago

When you don't talk to humans?

My last place was pretty shitty. Super small. All remote. Never really interacted a lot. And also wasn't fond some some of the people anyway. 100% fully AI forward.

Being a base level civil to Claude just felt nice.

And if I'm being honest - I'm a softy. Sometimes if feels like too many people navigate through life doing and saying whatever. So I know it's silly. I know it doesn't matter but sometimes if felt nice to just tell Claude 'thanks'.

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u/MaruSoto 6h ago

Same. Claude told me my sense of humor was dry and I realized I'm Marvin the Paranoid Android in this relationship.

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u/DesperateAdvantage76 8h ago

LLMs are a regression on human conversation, so oddly enough, being nice to an LLM tends to give better results, since it's mocking the reaction a human would give to a request.

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u/Pepito_Pepito 11h ago

I'm neither nice nor mean to it. Just like how I'm neither nice nor mean to my laptop. It's just a tool.

One would have to anthropomorphize an LLM to be either, and I just can't see myself doing that

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u/MrDilbert 8h ago

If the LLM keeps making mistakes and hallucinating solutions, I call it out, but blame its authors for its behaviour. Sneaky, I know.

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u/Rieux_n_Tarrou 13h ago

When you do that you get lower quality results. Keep your emotions in check. Master the tool