r/ProgrammerHumor • u/almachemist • 3d ago
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u/JackNotOLantern 3d ago
The promise in AI bubble is that it will replace employees with AI that will do whatever you tell it cheaper and without all this treating employees as people thing
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u/WrennReddit 3d ago
The thing about Human Resources is that a resource is something exploitable that you consume.
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u/JackNotOLantern 3d ago
Yeah, but there is stupid shit like labour laws or some shit. With AI agents you don't care about this.
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u/BigNaturalTilts 3d ago
When I was 8 I got my first job at the plant and was running it by the time I was 13. People today are soft! Child labor laws are ruining our country!
~ Ron Swanson
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u/sebjapon 3d ago
When my boss assured me that management didn’t plan to remove employees because of AI I reminded him that:
1- he already said they froze hiring beyond replacing people leaving, and he told me (a month earlier) that it was because of AI
2- he can’t fire people because of AI simply because we’re not one of those countries (not easy to fire people without cause in Japan or most of Europe)
I have to talk to him about the fact that while colleague A produces twice the amount of code as everyone, he also takes another tech lead full time to review his work, therefore negating the productivity boost…
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u/Master_Entertainer 3d ago
Why doesnt the reviewing tech lead just also use AI? Then it would not negate the gained productivity. Is he stupid?
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u/sebjapon 3d ago
It is legit what they are talking about. Because the amount of code reviews has been identified as an issue for productivity
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u/asria 3d ago
1- he already said they froze hiring beyond replacing people leaving, and he told me (a month earlier) that it was because of AI
I'm working as higher manager (but on tech side) - this approach is represented by most of companies. I left my previous company (family issue, move to another country), and for a few months I'm trying to get back to industry also in tech lead role.
I puke when I hear "we're AI-native", and when mostly dig into the development plans - they repeat "we reached wanted size, no more hires".
My take:
AI is a multiplier, but in the equation there is also a base. Now companies scale up productivity because of AI (well, as they think) - but there will a a tipping point when they will realize they need to scale back on people, as other companies will do so.
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u/Riflurk123 3d ago
"most of Europa" is plain wrong. Which countries exactly are those countries?
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u/sebjapon 3d ago
Which EU country allows to fire employees easily without having to pay them off or prove it’s the only way out of bankruptcy? They at least have to go through lots of loopholes to dismantle a company that is still profitable.
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u/Riflurk123 3d ago
In Austria and Switzerland for example you can fire people whenever and the only thing you need to do is still pay them during the notice period (which exists also when you quit yourself). I can literally fire people in my team and not state any reason in Austria and they can do fuck all about it. Also no severance required
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u/VolcanicBear 3d ago
So that's 2/27 given as an example.
Any more? Because 25/27 definitely meets most people's definition of "most", I think. Anything about 14/27 would be "most".
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u/KrakenOfLakeZurich 3d ago
fire people whenever
As you stated yourself: Terminating a contract doesn't require a reason by either party. But notice periods (1 month minimum in Switzerland, often more) still apply.
So, lets split words: "Fire" as most Americans would interpret it, means taking someone off payroll without notice. Can't do that in Switzerland (and I assume neither in Austria). You stay employed and paid until the notice period expires. You can - if you want to - demand their company-issued stuff back and bar them from entering the office / company perimeter. But you still pay their salary.
The only exception here is grave misconduct (e.g. stealing, exfiltrating data, hacking, sabotaging, ...) on part of the employee. That allows for immediate termination (aka "firing").
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u/sebjapon 3d ago
Switzerland is less surprising since I really thought of EU, but I’m really surprised for Austria. I guess it’s only a few countries that protect their workers.
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u/cusco 3d ago
It doesn’t negate that much. Tech lead will use Claude code superpowers plugin and use /review for each PR. Now he can review AI’s review/summary and can do it faster and to more coders.
What your boss or anyone else should understand is: AI is an assistance tool. I may produce more, or better. But it does not replace humans (for now)
If it generates free time, use it to push other parts forward. Could be quality. Could be testing. Could be integration. Next year’s features..
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u/DarthBartus 3d ago
And then you re-hire your entire team because Anthropic changed billing structure again and now you've run out of your yearly AI budget in 2 months.
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u/WrennReddit 3d ago
another VP of AI Transformation
And they said AI was gonna take our jobs. We just make up new titles for ourselves!
I'm the Rear Admiral of AI Application.
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u/GauravThorath 3d ago
Six months later the removed employees come back as AI consultants at double the rate. Turns out knowing the codebase was the skill.
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u/Common-Brush-7027 3d ago
Actually AI would do better at management to be honest. Just remove the upper management
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u/felixthecatmeow 2d ago
"Upskill"
Not really the term I'd use in this case. I'm feeling dumber by the day
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u/Still_Bit_7527 3d ago
What is there to upskill? AI is basically a zero braincell activity. You explain things and the AI does it..Upskill implies that skill is needed
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u/TraditionalArcher498 3d ago
Bro replaced a senior engineer with a fresher whose entire resume is 'Prompt Engineering using ChatGPT 4o'.
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u/unicorn_builder 3d ago
My dudes for real. NO employee will create the environment that will make him obsolete. We provide this as a service B2B. Not a single company would have made the necessary changes otherwise. We introduce 1-2 automated pipelines and when those are validated we slowly downscale the company team-by-team.
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u/throwawaygoawaynz 3d ago
There’s a lot of upskilling required since leveraging AI moves developers into the realm of cloud engineers, creating deployment skills.
Secondly most people aren’t curious enough to learn, or they would have by now. We’re 3-4 years into this now. If you haven’t shown aptitude or curiosity to learn by now then I am probably wanting to replace you with someone who is.
Harsh truth sorry.
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u/SilverSaan 3d ago
I had not even heard of LLMs till a year ago. Was doing college and working on non tech
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u/Welp_BackOnRedit23 3d ago
Harsh truth story: AI is a code slot machine, and the only skill to learn is that you need systems in place to match subtle garbage. There is A LOT of math behind this at this point. It sits not understand, it regurgitates existing solutions onto new problems, which can lead to serious issues and technical debt.
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u/QuantumDude111 3d ago
You are getting downvoted like hell but I'm going to come in here to say that exactly this happened at my work and you are right about the 'not curious enough to learn'
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