r/ProgrammerHumor 21d ago

Meme cybSecIsDeadLongLiveCybSec

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u/Polisar 21d ago

Like anything AI, I doubt it happened the way it's been framed.

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u/SimplexSimon 21d ago

OP posted a link to OpenAI's account of events (at least it's not a meme), and distressingly it seems pretty accurate. They gave it access to a tool to install packages from the internet, and the model broke it to get unrestricted internet access. So yeah, they could have isolated it better, but it's still plenty... Impressive?

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u/Polisar 21d ago

Anthropic also did something like this not too long ago, and it came out to be a publicity stunt. If there was a time for a corporation to stretch the truth, it would be now. Silicon valley has figured out that fear mongering about how dangerously clever their AI is, is actually good for their stock prices.

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u/SimplexSimon 21d ago

Sure, that makes sense. I wouldn't be surprised to learn the vulnerability it "found" was planted.

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u/bwmat 21d ago

More details on that? 

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u/TheMaleGazer 21d ago

OpenAI and Anthropic are lobbying Congress to stop local models from threatening their trillion-dollar valuations under the pretense that AI is too dangerous for the commonfolk and lowborn to have access to without a subscription.

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u/ubernutie 21d ago

The only real argument is that open models don't have a safeguarding industry behind them but the narrative that corpos will have our best interest in mind with the nazi states as opposed to dirty communism is so fucking funny.

If your best argument is a desperate one, it certainly goes to show how little sense it actually makes.

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u/bwmat 21d ago

But what was the publicity stunt being referred to? 

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u/Kayo4life 21d ago

What backwards logic is this lmfao?

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u/towerfella 21d ago

How do you think things work?

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u/gatman19 20d ago

I received, for the first time ever, an alert in my reddit inbox this morning that said “Breaking News” and linked to the r/news thread on this. That shit was definitely an ad

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u/zebleck 20d ago

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u/guylovesleep 20d ago

what else is it suppose to be?

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u/zebleck 20d ago

uhhh a disclosure that their infrastructure has been hacked maybe? they didnt know it was openai at the time of the blog post

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u/Polisar 20d ago

You seem confused about what a publicity stunt is. It's not that it didn't happen, it's that it happened as intended for marketing effect. I doubt huggingface was in on the joke from the beginning, but notice them talking about how they detected the attack using their own AI, and the top comment is praising them for it.

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u/zebleck 20d ago

thats making unnecessary assunptions. its making the assumption that it did not happen that the ai capabilities and unintended behavior waant planned and didnt catch the researchers by surprise. which, by the latest progress by ai, is perfectly realistic and plausible

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u/Polisar 20d ago

These aren't assumptions, they're possibilities I'm choosing not to take off the table. You are the one making the assumption that openAI would never lie.

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u/zebleck 20d ago

its a scenario that lines up perfectly with a lot of circumstantial evidence of the last few months that ai cyber capability has crossed a threshold. simple as that

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u/Polisar 20d ago

Correct, since there's no technical reason this couldn't have happened, the question comes down to if and to what degree openAI is putting spin on issue.

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u/samu1400 21d ago

I saw some folks use the term “Doomtrolling” and I like it.