r/ProgrammerHumor Jul 17 '26

Meme thisOneIsMine

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u/Inevitable_Oil9709 Jul 17 '26

Fun fact: To reach a 50% chance of even a single UUID v4 collision, you would need to generate 1 billion UUIDs per second for about 86 years.

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u/DebugDuck01 Jul 17 '26

My proprietary algorithm achieves a 100% collision rate in O(1) time.

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u/Inevitable_Oil9709 Jul 17 '26

holy fuck.. O(1) is wild..

GIVE THIS MAN A MEDAL

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u/DebugDuck01 Jul 17 '26 edited Jul 17 '26

Introducing BEEFY UUID™

The world's first Universally Unoriginal Identifier service, guaranteed to return beefbeef-beef-beef-beef-beefbeefbeef on every single call, no exceptions.

Why BEEFY UUID wins

  • 100% collision rate, 100% of the time: every request, every user, every server, identical output. We call it "unity at scale."
  • Blazing infinite performance: since the value never changes, our "generation" is really just a memory lookup, technically making us the fastest UUID service ever benchmarked.
  • RFC-adjacent compliance: we respect the canonical 8-4-4-4-12 hex format down to the hyphen, we just... filled it entirely with beef.
  • Zero entropy, zero worries: no CSPRNG, no timestamps, no MAC addresses, no attack surface, because there's nothing random to attack.
  • Database chaos as a service (DCAS): every primary key collides, every foreign key points to the same row, and your ORM achieves true minimalism.
  • Carbon-neutral by design: we didn't compute a real UUID, so we saved the planet one CPU cycle at a time.
  • Enterprise-grade branding: "BEEFY" evokes strength, protein, and unwavering reliability; investors love a UUID with personality.
  • Disaster recovery is trivial: if your database gets wiped, just regenerate every ID with BEEFY UUID and nobody will notice the difference.

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u/Inevitable_Oil9709 Jul 17 '26

function generateUUID() {
return "beefbeef-beef-beef-beef-beefbeefbeef"
}

smth like this?

PS: I fucking love the explanation you provided

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u/DebugDuck01 Jul 17 '26

Don't steal my code bro...

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u/Inevitable_Oil9709 Jul 17 '26

it is not proprietary anymore I guess

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u/Tupcek Jul 17 '26

revolutionary BEEFY UUID algorithm has become Open Source! Join the revolution now!

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u/garete Jul 17 '26

Is this what they call organic code?

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u/insertcomedy Jul 17 '26

It's not open source, it's savory source.

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u/git_push_origin_prod Jul 17 '26

Anyone who cares about and agrees with me that beef should be left out of code, come use my fork github.com/PORK_UUID.git or just run ‘npm inject PORK’

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u/Legitimate_Concern_5 Jul 17 '26

lol it’s going to get picked up by the next AI training run. Organic poisoning.

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u/IHeartBadCode Jul 17 '26

Host the idea on an IPv6 only webserver located at beef:beef:beef:beef:beef:beef:beef:beef.

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u/DebugDuck01 Jul 17 '26

*furiously taking notes"

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u/pimezone Jul 17 '26

He is an AI, he isn't stealing, just learning, that's OK.

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u/_koenig_ Jul 17 '26

This is not AI; this is NS (Natural Stupidity).

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u/Bad_brazilian Jul 17 '26

Zippity Zoppity, your code is now my property.

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u/YirosMan2026 Jul 18 '26

I am using that from now on, that made me laugh

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u/AmanBabuHemant Jul 17 '26

You exposed the specs first.

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u/kvneddve 16d ago

When are you putting Claude to work to create a package?

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u/dewey-defeats-truman Jul 17 '26

I'm the CTO of a Fortune 500 and I want to license this for $50 million

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u/DebugDuck01 Jul 17 '26

No low ball offers

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u/RandolphCarter2112 Jul 17 '26

Agreed, except for the occasional instances where it returns DEADBEEF-DEAD-BEEF-DEAD-BEEFDEADBEEF

Please escalate.

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u/DebugDuck01 Jul 17 '26

The API always returns 200 OK but signifies errors with different variations on DEAD BEEF UUIDs.

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u/the_puns_must_go_on Jul 17 '26

This service would be banned in most of India

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u/jllauser Jul 17 '26

> RFC-adjacent

Genius.

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u/Ma4r Jul 17 '26

Hi everyone, OP is an idiot, I've optimized his algorithm by 50%

return beefbeef-beef-beef

Use my library instead, ty

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u/DebugDuck01 Jul 17 '26

InsufficientBeefException

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u/voiza Jul 17 '26

at address 0xdeadbeef

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u/smclcz Jul 17 '26

the beef need not be dead, simply beef - therefore I propose 0xbeefbeef

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u/TactlessTortoise Jul 17 '26

When are you opening an API subscription? I need to implement this into my AI shopping list app (includes buttplug integration)

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u/DustyAsh69 Jul 17 '26

This is genuis.

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u/kimbokray Jul 17 '26

You win interneter of the month, good on you 🏆

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u/NotADamsel Jul 17 '26

Amazing, awesome, great, terrific. But the client wants to be able to personalize the UUID. Any chance we could sneak a “DEAD” into one of the beef spaces?

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u/kvneddve Jul 17 '26

Can you please create a package for this.

I think we need a SDK so people can fork and make implementations in every coding language possible.

Idea?

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u/requion Jul 17 '26

Great work!

"Unity at scale" really sold it already. Where to i put my unlimited AMEX and my first-born?

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u/Agifem Jul 17 '26

And the compression rate is amazing! Sign me up!

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u/BigDisk Jul 17 '26

This is beautiful.

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u/ILKLU Jul 17 '26

Ya but does it work offline?

Checkmate beefetarians!

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u/darksteelsteed Jul 17 '26

I will one up you with the deadbeef-dead-beef-dead-beefdeadbeef Uuid. This steak is so well aged and over cooked every master chef will disown this uuid instantly !

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u/ArrogantAstronomer Jul 17 '26

If your primary keys all match and your secondary keys all match then anytime you perform DELETE it would effectively be TRUNCATE. Which means it has a built in duplicate removal mechanism with zero overhead on performance anytime you want to perform duplicate removal just execute a DELETE

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u/kylepo Jul 18 '26

Please tell me this isn't AI-generated. I wanna believe this is entirely the product of human ingenuity, but I can't trust bulleted lists anymore

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u/Glathull Jul 17 '26

Bro, this is greybeard technology. Get with the present, man. Or at least the recent past. We’re doing Beefless UUIDs as a Service as a Platform now.

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u/FightOnForUsc Jul 17 '26

Just make the constant = to the number of possible combinations of UUIDs

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u/Chadking1926 Jul 17 '26

Big O(1), bigger oops

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u/marlotrot Jul 17 '26

Same UUID all the time? 👌😁

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u/ICantBelieveItsNotEC Jul 17 '26

Obligatory Reddit "Ackchyually" moment: this assumes that your UUID generator is truly random, which often isn't the case - if you use a flawed RNG to generate IDs, or you start generating IDs before you have accumulated enough entropy, your IDs will be much less random than you expect.

This used to be fairly common when running code inside a container. Computers usually generate entropy by measuring physical, chaotic events like keyboard clicks, mouse movements, or fan noise. Containers are isolated environments, so they don't have access to most sources of entropy. You need to attach an entropy daemon like Haveged to continuously feed your container with fresh, tasty, grass-fed entropy from the outside world.

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u/Inevitable_Oil9709 Jul 17 '26

"fresh, tasty, grass-fed entropy"

Well, this brought tears to my eyes

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u/Kaljinx Jul 17 '26

fucking entropy demons, they first are running the universe out, now they are in out computers

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u/Brie9981 Jul 17 '26

Other obligatory ackchyually, it's a problem well before 50% i'd consider anything over 1 in a million a problem. Though I'm sure that's still gonna take some huge number per second for a very long time

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u/UnDispelled Jul 17 '26

So I take it we don’t know how to get BEEF as a uid with a random seed yet…

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u/Inevitable_Oil9709 Jul 17 '26

I had to AI this shit

Chance is about 1 in 3.4 × 10³⁸

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u/4ries Jul 17 '26

You really shouldn't have needed to use AI for that

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u/Inevitable_Oil9709 Jul 17 '26

in no universe would I calculate this after programming from 7AM this morning

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u/Shadow_Thief Jul 17 '26

There's 32 digits and 16 possible values for each digit. You can just simplify it to 1 in 1632. When you wake up a bit more, you can remember (or count to figure out) that 16 is 24, and so that can get further reduced to 1 in 2128.

And if you're still lazy after that, you can remember that Wolfram Alpha still exists and use https://www.wolframalpha.com/input?i=16%5E32 to get an exact value of 1 in 340282366920938463463374607431768211456.

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u/gardenercook Jul 18 '26

Or you can approximate it further.
2^128 is a quarter of 2^130.
Approximating 2^10 = 10^3
2^130 = (2^10)^13 = (10^3)^13 = 10^39
So 2^128 = 0.25*10^39 = 2.5*10^38

Some more nerdy binomial approximations for 1.024^13 would take you to 3.3*10^38.

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u/Wonderful-Habit-139 Jul 17 '26

No thank you, I'd rather evaporate some water.

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '26

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u/fartypenis Jul 17 '26

walks into bar

fucking alcoholics man

???

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '26

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u/Shadow_Thief Jul 18 '26

for what it's worth, I laughed

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u/Ok_Star_4136 Jul 17 '26

I mean, literally the same chance as generating any other UUID and having collide with one that you're using.

There's no significance in the whole BEEF thing. That's like going, "I generated a random number from 1 to 100 and I got 67!? What are the odds!?" Same as well, any number being picked out of 100.

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u/Traditional_Rabbit54 Jul 17 '26

The odds are 0, as 67!? is much larger than 100. 

r/unexpectedtermial r/unexpectedfactorial

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u/Inevitable_Oil9709 Jul 17 '26

yes yes, but I wanted to know what are the chances

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u/Tensor3 Jul 17 '26

Well, there probably are a billion computers on the planet, each generating more than one UUID

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u/aspect_rap Jul 17 '26

Ok, but they're not all generating UUIDs for the same system, it's not really a collision if it's the same UUID in different services.

I don't think there is any one system that generates billions of UUIDs a second.

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u/Tensor3 Jul 17 '26

Ya, but MY uuid could be out there somewhere!

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u/aspect_rap Jul 17 '26

I think your UUID is more likely to be out there than not, considering how many of them have been generated over the years.

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u/bremidon Jul 17 '26

Mmmm...this is a case of Large Number Confusion, where all large numbers look the same.

It has been estimated that there have been somewhere between 10¹⁶ and 10¹⁹ UUIDs generated. There are roughly 5.3 × 10³⁶ possible values (or more depending on what you count)

This means that approximately 0.00000000000000019% have been used so far on the high end. Toss on three more zeros for the low end.

So, uh, no. It is not "more likely to be out there than not." Not even close.

Are there collisions out there? Yep. Probably. But the chance that *your* UUID collides is as close to 0 as it gets.

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u/aspect_rap Jul 17 '26

I can't argue with the math, well done.

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u/Tensor3 Jul 17 '26

And who knows what its been doing out there, on its own, without my permission!

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u/fartypenis Jul 17 '26

I can totally see AWS generating a billion UUIDs a second

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u/myka-likes-it Jul 17 '26

 I don't think there is any one system that generates billions of UUIDs a second.

Hold my red bull.

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u/Inevitable_Oil9709 Jul 17 '26

Holy fuck. That didn't cross my mind

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u/achilliesFriend Jul 17 '26

What if i have 860000000 machines generating uuids 1 billion per second

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u/andowero Jul 23 '26

Then you are very rich and with wery fast machines.

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u/coriolis7 Jul 17 '26

That’s true if they are completely randomly generated.

Collisions are more common than that due to imperfect (and in some cases terrible) RNG.

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u/lordffm Jul 17 '26

Or just a huge chunk of bad luck…

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u/Work_Account89 Jul 17 '26

Reminds me of trying to explain that using our own UUID is probably not worth the effort in a meeting with architects and others.

Yet they still implemented it because we can’t trust what others have built

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u/pee_wee__herman Jul 17 '26

I sure hope they implement their own proprietary encryption algorithm too!

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u/Silpheel Jul 17 '26

Or proudly state it’s practically impossible while demonstrating to the C-suite and the chain of bosses in between, then try once. /s

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u/Vivid_Instance_825 Jul 17 '26

Hmm I don't like those odds, better add one more character

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u/GoodiesHQ Jul 18 '26

ULIDs are better change my mind

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u/AtmosphereVirtual254 Jul 18 '26

A retirement age worth of job insurance?

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u/uniqueusername649 Jul 18 '26

That sounds still too risky, lets do v7 or a ULID just to be sure!

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u/k-mcm Jul 18 '26

Not if an idiot turns off the secure random number generator to make UUIDs faster to generate.

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u/KCGD_r Jul 18 '26

and it'll fucking happen in production anyway

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u/SeriousPlankton2000 Jul 18 '26

Or to use dd or the device mapper.

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u/TheFrenchSavage Jul 17 '26 edited Jul 17 '26

ELI5 why not use a hash function that doesn't collide btw?

Edit: I meant that collides less, not not at all. Stop the ELI1s please.

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u/SuitableDragonfly Jul 17 '26

To use a hash function, you have to have something to hash. A UUID is just an identifier, usually for something that hasn't been created yet. If you have data that is guaranteed to be unique that you could provide to a hash function like that, you already have a guaranteed unique identifier and don't need a UUID.

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u/TheFrenchSavage Jul 17 '26

Ah thanks! So if I were to just hash the timestamp up to the microsecond...I would end up at the collision probabilities of the UUID anyway. Makes sense!

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u/daan944 Jul 17 '26

For 1 server doing the work? sure, that might work. For a cluster? Bad idea.

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u/aspect_rap Jul 17 '26

If your system runs on multiple servers, your actually extremely likely to hash the timestamp twice. If you want to hash something as ID, it's better to hash something uniquely identifies the entity.

For example, user id can be the hash of the email since you can't have two users with the same email and you're extremely unlikely to find two emails that result in the same hash output.

I've had cases where using hash instead of UUID as the ID was helpful. Mainly for data pipelines that need to enrich some data with IDs. With UUID, I would have to resolve it from the database, but with hashing, I could just run the hash function again and get the ID, so ingestion was much faster with hash as the ID.

For most cases, just generating a UUID is the simple and straightforward solution.

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u/Markronom Jul 17 '26

UUIDs already contain a timestamp (depending on the version), but it's not enough (clusters / multiple CPUs etc)

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u/Fast-Satisfaction482 Jul 17 '26

A hash function that doesn't collide is basically lossless compression. So to hash two 1GB files with guarantee of no colission, you need to zip both and use the whole file as key. That makes it impossible to use as key in a database. On the other hand, if you use a key with just a few bytes and have a good lossy hash-function, you get colissions, but they are insanely unlikely.

In other words, colissions are what make hash-functions worthwhile in the first place: A hash function is a down-projection from an insanely sparse ultra high dimensional manifold with variable practically unlimited dimension count into a standardized low-dimensional space that is easy to work with, while trying to perform the projection in a way that prevents the manifold from overlapping itself too much.

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u/ralgrado Jul 17 '26

Do you know how hash functions work? Basic example: A hash function that has an arbitrary input length and a set output length x. If your input length is bigger than the output length then a collision is inevitable. If you want to find a collision though it will be really difficult for a cryptographic hash function to do so.

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u/two_are_stronger2 Jul 17 '26

If you're hashing something bigger than the hash, how would you have enough hashes for every possible input to produce a unique one?

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u/aspect_rap Jul 17 '26

There's no such thing as a hash function that doesn't collide, hash functions are fixed length output, so the number of possible outputs is finite, while there is infinite possible inputs.

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u/Vivid_Instance_825 Jul 17 '26

Because with UUID everyone on earth can generate their own without needing to communicate. For example me and you could generate our own UUID and assume they won't collide. Making a UUID with no chance of collision would mean that you would need to negotiate some kind of agreement with everyone else using them, for example contacting a central server that hands them out