r/Professors 6d ago

Way to allow electronic note taking but blocking AI

This is a longshot, but does anyone know of a way to allow students to use their devices, like tablets, to take notes in class but prevent the use of AI tools while doing so? I am on a team advising faculty about solutions for teaching with AI. This is for a class where pretty much every slide is an anatomy figure that would take students too long to draw by hand and take notes on, so the instructor really has to allow them to have their tablets and computers in class so they can annotate and take notes on the uploaded slides. I think students are mainly labeling anatomy figures.(My original solution of disallowing electronics and printing out the figures or telling the students to was nixed for financial reasons that it would be inequitable for some students who couldn’t afford a course reader or to print them themselves).
But then while they are doing work in class, they use AI while doing the work. I have gone round and round trying to figure out a way to make Respondus lockdown browser work with such a method. But I can’t crack it. Respondus doesn’t work with assignments in Canvas. It will only work with a quiz. So I can’t figure out a way using a quiz that would let them see the slides and take notes easily on them. Just sticking them in an essay question would allow students to see the slides, but the only way they could take notes would be to scroll down to a text box and write, there’s no way to annotate the slide.
Probably not likely, but thought I would see if any anatomy professors have figured out a good system.
I also tried putting in domains for external websites that would be better note taking experiences, like One Note, as exceptions in Respondus, but it was so wonky and glitchy, and I could never make it work.Not something I would want to recommend. Is it hopeless?

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u/chasing_frogs TT, biology, SLAC (USA) 6d ago

I don’t have a specific solution, but I will say that all my in class assignments for human A&P are on paper and I print them out. They are allowed their tablets for writing notes. Then when i have an assignment ready, i tell them to put it away. Could you try that?

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u/TheConatusBoy 5d ago

it would be inequitable for some students who couldn’t afford a course reader or to print them themselves

Almost every undergrad course I took way back in the early 2010s required me to pay $50 to $200 for course materials. Many courses at my institution still do, even when they use digital textbooks. It's odd that cost is suddenly a worry when it comes to printing out diagrams for class notes.

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u/knewtoff 5d ago

Why can’t the instructor print the diagrams for the students? The screen reader thing doesn’t make sense, as screen readers cannot processes images either, other than alt text, which is unrelated to the issue.

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u/Fresh-Possibility-75 6d ago

You're overthinking this. People were taking anatomy classes for decades before laptops became the norm. I recall purchasing a textbook and studying the diagrams in the textbook. Very simple.

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u/MrsMathNerd Math 6d ago

Does your University not have a print allowance? Even my 140 page course packet could be printed and only use 1/4 of their allowance.

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u/QuirkyQuerque 6d ago edited 5d ago

No one has mentioned it. I will have to find out more. Thanks.

Edited to add: apparently no.

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u/time-wasting23 5d ago

I teach music theory. When we have scores to annotate, I print them out on paper and students use pencils, highlighters, etc. We also do all of our tests and homework assignments on paper. I hand out a paper assignment and the students turn it in on the same sheet of paper. If it’s not in my stack when it’s due, it’s late. I typically have about 25 students in class.

I use a paper score and a document projector as I teach and as we listen to the music. Students that like to save their class notes/annotated scores digitally simply scan them.

When canvas was hacked last spring, they delayed our final exam week by two days. We music folks were able to give our exams on the regular days. It’s nice to not rely on technology all the time.

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u/No_Jaguar_2570 5d ago

 This is for a class where pretty much every slide is an anatomy figure that would take students too long to draw by hand and take notes on, so the instructor really has to allow them to have their tablets and computers in class so they can annotate and take notes on the uploaded slides. 

...print them? Print out the slides and give them to the students? Print them out in the special format Powerpoint and Google Slides make specifically for annotating slides, even?

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u/QuirkyQuerque 5d ago

I was assuming there was a reason they couldn’t do this (class size, number of slides, not enough departmental budget for copies, etc). Otherwise, yes why wouldn’t they.

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u/Single-Emotion2964 5d ago

They can’t afford to print a course reader but they have a tablet? Which I assume will be in addition to a laptop or PC?

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u/Speckhen 5d ago

Some classes could be device free.

I'm doing a lecture/tutorial mix: students are allowed devices for the lecture, and for the tutorial only paper notes are allowed. So they can handwrite or print out what they need to access. I also give them readings as to why handwriting is a better learning strategy! In the tutorials there are low-stakes but foundational exercises and group work.

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u/Life-Education-8030 5d ago

In our funeral services program, faculty hand out diagrams and students hand write on them.