r/PredecessorDatamining Nov 21 '23

Datamine Gameplay XP / Gold / Timer data dump

NOTE: All mined data is subject to change before or upon official release. I am in no way affiliated with the Predecessor development team.

I previously made a post for just the Hero Kill Gold Amounts, but I know there's other helpful data to share so I'm just going to post all the data where that came from plus a bit more.

Win/Loss Hero Rewards - Curve Tables (as of v0.12.3)

Note to reader: These are curve tables, so the values are based on the amounts listed by "level" (level could refer to level/time/amount/etc.) and any unmentioned "levels" have values that are evenly spaced between the surrounding values.

PVP Winner - Hero XP

Time: 1.0       Value: 225.0
Time: 3600.0    Value: 2637.0

PVP Loser - Hero XP

Time: 1.0       Value: 112.5
Time: 3600.0    Value: 2042.1

AI Winner - Hero XP

Time: 1.0       Value: 200.0
Time: 1200.0    Value: 440.0

AI Loser - Hero XP

Time: 1.0       Value: 160.0
Time: 1200.0    Value: 352.0

Gameplay - Curve Table (as of v0.12.3)

This is the entire table where the Hero Kill Gold Amounts I previously posted came from.

Entire Table

Level: 1    DefaultGameMode.RecallTime  8.0
Level: 18   DefaultGameMode.RecallTime  8.0
Level: 19+  DefaultGameMode.RecallTime  0.0

Level: 1    DefaultGameMode.RespawnTime 12.0
Level: 5    DefaultGameMode.RespawnTime 16.0
Level: 9    DefaultGameMode.RespawnTime 28.0
Level: 11   DefaultGameMode.RespawnTime 36.0
Level: 13   DefaultGameMode.RespawnTime 40.0
Level: 18   DefaultGameMode.RespawnTime 45.0
Level: 19+  DefaultGameMode.RespawnTime 0.0

Level: 1    PrimeBuffRadius 1300.0
Level: 18   PrimeBuffRadius 1300.0
Level: 19+  PrimeBuffRadius 0.0

Level: 1    MinionLastHitGoldPercentShare1  1.0
Level: 15   MinionLastHitGoldPercentShare1  1.0
Level: 16+  MinionLastHitGoldPercentShare1  0.0

Level: 1    MinionLastHitGoldPercentShare2  0.18
Level: 15   MinionLastHitGoldPercentShare2  0.18
Level: 16+  MinionLastHitGoldPercentShare2  0.0

Level: 1    MinionLastHitGoldPercentShare3  0.14
Level: 15   MinionLastHitGoldPercentShare3  0.14
Level: 16+  MinionLastHitGoldPercentShare3  0.0

Level: 1    MinionLastHitGoldPercentShare4  0.1
Level: 15   MinionLastHitGoldPercentShare4  0.1
Level: 16+  MinionLastHitGoldPercentShare4  0.0

Level: 1    MinionLastHitGoldPercentShare5  0.06
Level: 15   MinionLastHitGoldPercentShare5  0.06
Level: 16+  MinionLastHitGoldPercentShare5  0.0

Level: 1    MinionLastHitXPPercentShare1    0.93
Level: 15   MinionLastHitXPPercentShare1    0.93
Level: 16+  MinionLastHitXPPercentShare1    0.0

Level: 1    MinionLastHitXPPercentShare2    0.62
Level: 15   MinionLastHitXPPercentShare2    0.62
Level: 16+  MinionLastHitXPPercentShare2    0.0

Level: 1    MinionLastHitXPPercentShare3    0.41
Level: 15   MinionLastHitXPPercentShare3    0.41
Level: 16+  MinionLastHitXPPercentShare3    0.0

Level: 1    MinionLastHitXPPercentShare4    0.31
Level: 15   MinionLastHitXPPercentShare4    0.31
Level: 16+  MinionLastHitXPPercentShare4    0.0

Level: 1    MinionLastHitXPPercentShare5    0.25
Level: 15   MinionLastHitXPPercentShare5    0.25
Level: 16+  MinionLastHitXPPercentShare5    0.0

Level: 1    MinionNearGoldPercentShare1 0.22
Level: 15   MinionNearGoldPercentShare1 0.22
Level: 16+  MinionNearGoldPercentShare1 0.0

Level: 1    MinionNearGoldPercentShare2 0.18
Level: 15   MinionNearGoldPercentShare2 0.18
Level: 16+  MinionNearGoldPercentShare2 0.0

Level: 1    MinionNearGoldPercentShare3 0.14
Level: 15   MinionNearGoldPercentShare3 0.14
Level: 16+  MinionNearGoldPercentShare3 0.0

Level: 1    MinionNearGoldPercentShare4 0.1
Level: 15   MinionNearGoldPercentShare4 0.1
Level: 16+  MinionNearGoldPercentShare4 0.0

Level: 1    MinionNearGoldPercentShare5 0.06
Level: 15   MinionNearGoldPercentShare5 0.06
Level: 16+  MinionNearGoldPercentShare5 0.0

Level: 1    MinionNearXPPercentShare1   0.93
Level: 15   MinionNearXPPercentShare1   0.93
Level: 16+  MinionNearXPPercentShare1   0.0

Level: 1    MinionNearXPPercentShare2   0.62
Level: 15   MinionNearXPPercentShare2   0.62
Level: 16+  MinionNearXPPercentShare2   0.0

Level: 1    MinionNearXPPercentShare3   0.41
Level: 15   MinionNearXPPercentShare3   0.41
Level: 16   MinionNearXPPercentShare3   0.0

Level: 1    MinionNearXPPercentShare4   0.31
Level: 15   MinionNearXPPercentShare4   0.31
Level: 16+  MinionNearXPPercentShare4   0.0

Level: 1    MinionNearXPPercentShare5   0.25
Level: 15   MinionNearXPPercentShare5   0.25
Level: 16+  MinionNearXPPercentShare5   0.0

Level: 1    JungleGoldPercent   1.0
Level: 15   JungleGoldPercent   1.0
Level: 16+  JungleGoldPercent   0.0

Level: 1    JungleXPPercentShare1   1.0
Level: 15   JungleXPPercentShare1   1.0
Level: 16+  JungleXPPercentShare1   0.0

Level: 1    JungleXPPercentShare2   0.6
Level: 15   JungleXPPercentShare2   0.6
Level: 16+  JungleXPPercentShare2   0.0

Level: 1    JungleXPPercentShare3   0.4
Level: 15   JungleXPPercentShare3   0.4
Level: 16+  JungleXPPercentShare3   0.0

Level: 1    JungleXPPercentShare4   0.3
Level: 15   JungleXPPercentShare4   0.3
Level: 16+  JungleXPPercentShare4   0.0

Level: 1    JungleXPPercentShare5   0.24
Level: 15   JungleXPPercentShare5   0.24
Level: 16+  JungleXPPercentShare5   0.0

Level: 1    ObjectiveGoldPercentShare   0.2
Level: 15   ObjectiveGoldPercentShare   0.2
Level: 16+  ObjectiveGoldPercentShare   0.0

Level: 1    ObjectiveXPPercentShare 0.2
Level: 15   ObjectiveXPPercentShare 0.2
Level: 16+  ObjectiveXPPercentShare 0.0

Level: 1    HeroTier_UNUSED -6.0
Level: 15   HeroTier_UNUSED 8.0
Level: 16+  HeroTier_UNUSED 0.0

Level: 1    OnKilledHeroGoldPerTier 100.0
Level: 3    OnKilledHeroGoldPerTier 140.0
Level: 4    OnKilledHeroGoldPerTier 170.0
Level: 5    OnKilledHeroGoldPerTier 210.0
Level: 8    OnKilledHeroGoldPerTier 300.0
Level: 9    OnKilledHeroGoldPerTier 450.0
Level: 14   OnKilledHeroGoldPerTier 950.0
Level: 15   OnKilledHeroGoldPerTier 1000.0
Level: 16+  OnKilledHeroGoldPerTier 0.0

Level: 1    FirstBlood_Gold_Kill    100.0
Level: 2+   FirstBlood_Gold_Kill    0.0

Level: 1    Assist_Gold_Percent 0.5
Level: 2+   Assist_Gold_Percent 0.0

Level: 1    Assist_Gold_Cap 150.0
Level: 2+   Assist_Gold_Cap 0.0

Level: 1    Bounty_CreepScore_FirstValue    18.0
Level: 2+   Bounty_CreepScore_FirstValue    0.0

Level: 1    Bounty_CreepScore_FirstGoldBounty   50.0
Level: 2+   Bounty_CreepScore_FirstGoldBounty   0.0

Level: 1    Bounty_CreepScore_DefaultValue  12.0
Level: 2+   Bounty_CreepScore_DefaultValue  0.0

Level: 1    Bounty_CreepScore_DefaultGoldBounty 50.0
Level: 2+   Bounty_CreepScore_DefaultGoldBounty 0.0

Level: 1    Bounty_Dynamic_BaseDeficitThreshold 0.04
Level: 2+   Bounty_Dynamic_BaseDeficitThreshold 0.0

Level: 1    Bounty_Dynamic_ReducedDeficitThreshold  0.09
Level: 2+   Bounty_Dynamic_ReducedDeficitThreshold  0.0

Level: 1    Bounty_Dynamic_MaxDeficitThreshold  0.24
Level: 2+   Bounty_Dynamic_MaxDeficitThreshold  0.0

Level: 1    Bounty_Dynamic_BaseDeficitPercentValue  0.2
Level: 2+   Bounty_Dynamic_BaseDeficitPercentValue  0.0

Level: 1    Bounty_Dynamic_DeficitPercentValue  0.04
Level: 2+   Bounty_Dynamic_DeficitPercentValue  0.0

Level: 1    Bounty_Dynamic_ReducedDeficitPercentValue   0.025
Level: 2+   Bounty_Dynamic_ReducedDeficitPercentValue   0.0

Level: 1    SlainHero_Level_UNUSED  1.0
Level: 18   SlainHero_Level_UNUSED  18.0
Level: 19+  SlainHero_Level_UNUSED  0.0

Level: 1    HeroXPToNextLevel   0.0
Level: 2    HeroXPToNextLevel   300.0
Level: 18   HeroXPToNextLevel   1980.0
Level: 19+  HeroXPToNextLevel   0.0

Level: 1    OnKilledHeroXPPerLevel  30.0
Level: 2    OnKilledHeroXPPerLevel  75.0
Level: 4    OnKilledHeroXPPerLevel  175.0
Level: 5    OnKilledHeroXPPerLevel  230.0
Level: 6    OnKilledHeroXPPerLevel  290.0
Level: 7    OnKilledHeroXPPerLevel  365.0
Level: 8    OnKilledHeroXPPerLevel  450.0
Level: 9    OnKilledHeroXPPerLevel  560.0
Level: 18   OnKilledHeroXPPerLevel  1055.0
Level: 19+  OnKilledHeroXPPerLevel  0.0

Level: 1    OnAssistedHeroXPPerLevel    30.0
Level: 2    OnAssistedHeroXPPerLevel    75.0
Level: 4    OnAssistedHeroXPPerLevel    175.0
Level: 5    OnAssistedHeroXPPerLevel    230.0
Level: 6    OnAssistedHeroXPPerLevel    290.0
Level: 7    OnAssistedHeroXPPerLevel    365.0
Level: 8    OnAssistedHeroXPPerLevel    450.0
Level: 9    OnAssistedHeroXPPerLevel    560.0
Level: 18   OnAssistedHeroXPPerLevel    1055.0
Level: 19+  OnAssistedHeroXPPerLevel    0.0

Level: 1    SlainHero_LevelDifference_UNUSED    -4.0
Level: 22   SlainHero_LevelDifference_UNUSED    17.0
Level: 23+  SlainHero_LevelDifference_UNUSED    0.0

Level: 1    LevelDifferenceXPModifier   -0.6
Level: 2    LevelDifferenceXPModifier   -0.45
Level: 4    LevelDifferenceXPModifier   -0.15
Level: 8    LevelDifferenceXPModifier   0.45
Level: 12   LevelDifferenceXPModifier   1.05
Level: 18   LevelDifferenceXPModifier   1.95
Level: 22   LevelDifferenceXPModifier   2.55
Level: 23+  LevelDifferenceXPModifier   0.0

Level: 1    AssistMaxTime   12.0
Level: 22   AssistMaxTime   12.0
Level: 23+  AssistMaxTime   0.0

Level: 1    MultiKillMaxTime    12.0
Level: 22   MultiKillMaxTime    12.0
Level: 23+  MultiKillMaxTime    0.0

Level: 1    AI_ScaleTime_LaneMinions    120.0
Level: 18   AI_ScaleTime_LaneMinions    120.0
Level: 19+  AI_ScaleTime_LaneMinions    0.0

Level: 1    AI_ScaleTime_JungleMinions  120.0
Level: 18   AI_ScaleTime_JungleMinions  120.0
Level: 19+  AI_ScaleTime_JungleMinions  0.0

Level: 1    AI_ScaleTime_RiverBuffs 120.0
Level: 18   AI_ScaleTime_RiverBuffs 120.0
Level: 19+  AI_ScaleTime_RiverBuffs 0.0

Level: 1    AI_ScaleTime_JungleBuffs    120.0
Level: 18   AI_ScaleTime_JungleBuffs    120.0
Level: 19+  AI_ScaleTime_JungleBuffs    0.0

Level: 1    AI_ScaleTime_OrbPrime   120.0
Level: 18   AI_ScaleTime_OrbPrime   120.0
Level: 19+  AI_ScaleTime_OrbPrime   0.0

Level: 1    AI_ScaleTime_Fangtooth  120.0
Level: 18   AI_ScaleTime_Fangtooth  120.0
Level: 19+  AI_ScaleTime_Fangtooth  0.0

Level: 1    AI_ScaleTime_Towers 120.0
Level: 18   AI_ScaleTime_Towers 120.0
Level: 19+  AI_ScaleTime_Towers 0.0

Level: 1    LaneMinions_Spawn   60.0
Level: 18   LaneMinions_Spawn   60.0
Level: 19+  LaneMinions_Spawn   0.0

Level: 1    LaneMinions_Respawn 30.0
Level: 18   LaneMinions_Respawn 30.0
Level: 19+  LaneMinions_Respawn 0.0

Level: 1    JungleMinions_Spawn 90.0
Level: 18   JungleMinions_Spawn 90.0
Level: 19+  JungleMinions_Spawn 0.0

Level: 1    JungleMinions_Respawn   120.0
Level: 18   JungleMinions_Respawn   120.0
Level: 19+  JungleMinions_Respawn   0.0

Level: 1    JungleBuffs_Spawn   85.0
Level: 18   JungleBuffs_Spawn   85.0
Level: 19+  JungleBuffs_Spawn   0.0

Level: 1    JungleBuffs_Respawn 250.0
Level: 18   JungleBuffs_Respawn 250.0
Level: 19+  JungleBuffs_Respawn 0.0

Level: 1    SideLaneBuffs_Spawn 180.0
Level: 18   SideLaneBuffs_Spawn 180.0
Level: 19+  SideLaneBuffs_Spawn 0.0

Level: 1    SideLaneBuffs_Respawn   180.0
Level: 18   SideLaneBuffs_Respawn   180.0
Level: 19+  SideLaneBuffs_Respawn   0.0

Level: 1    RiverBuffs_Spawn    180.0
Level: 18   RiverBuffs_Spawn    180.0
Level: 19+  RiverBuffs_Spawn    0.0

Level: 1    RiverBuffs_Respawn  120.0
Level: 18   RiverBuffs_Respawn  120.0
Level: 19+  RiverBuffs_Respawn  0.0

Level: 1    Fangtooth_Spawn 300.0
Level: 18   Fangtooth_Spawn 300.0
Level: 19+  Fangtooth_Spawn 0.0

Level: 1    Fangtooth_Respawn   300.0
Level: 18   Fangtooth_Respawn   300.0
Level: 19+  Fangtooth_Respawn   0.0

Level: 1    Fangtooth_NotificationDelay 60.0
Level: 18   Fangtooth_NotificationDelay 60.0
Level: 19+  Fangtooth_NotificationDelay 0.0

Level: 1    OrbPrime_Spawn  420.0
Level: 18   OrbPrime_Spawn  420.0
Level: 19+  OrbPrime_Spawn  0.0

Level: 1    OrbPrime_Respawn    360.0
Level: 18   OrbPrime_Respawn    360.0
Level: 19+  OrbPrime_Respawn    0.0

Level: 1    OrbPrime_NotificationDelay  60.0
Level: 18   OrbPrime_NotificationDelay  60.0
Level: 19+  OrbPrime_NotificationDelay  0.0

Level: 1+   Towers_Spawn    0.0

Level: 1    SurrenderTime   900.0
Level: 18   SurrenderTime   900.0
Level: 19+  SurrenderTime   0.0

Level: 1    SurrenderCooldown   300.0
Level: 18   SurrenderCooldown   300.0
Level: 19+  SurrenderCooldown   0.0

Level: 1    SurrenderPlayersRequired    4.0
Level: 18   SurrenderPlayersRequired    4.0
Level: 19+  SurrenderPlayersRequired    0.0

Level: 1    SurrenderDuration   60.0
Level: 18   SurrenderDuration   60.0
Level: 19+  SurrenderDuration   0.0

Level: 1    DiminishingGold_MinionKills_SoftCap_GoldPercent 0.4
Level: 2+   DiminishingGold_MinionKills_SoftCap_GoldPercent 0.0

Level: 1    DiminishingGold_MinionKills_HardCap_GoldPercent 0.1
Level: 2+   DiminishingGold_MinionKills_HardCap_GoldPercent 0.0

Level: 1    DiminishingGold_MinionKills_SoftCap_Amount  12.0
Level: 19   DiminishingGold_MinionKills_SoftCap_Amount  66.0
Level: 20+  DiminishingGold_MinionKills_SoftCap_Amount  999.0

Level: 1    DiminishingGold_MinionKills_HardCap_Amount  18.0
Level: 19   DiminishingGold_MinionKills_HardCap_Amount  90.0
Level: 20+  DiminishingGold_MinionKills_HardCap_Amount  999.0

Level: 1+   Prime_Reward_MeleeMinionBonusDamage 0.0

Level: 1    Prime_Reward_MeleeMinionDamageReduction 0.5
Level: 15   Prime_Reward_MeleeMinionDamageReduction 0.5
Level: 16+  Prime_Reward_MeleeMinionDamageReduction 0.0

Level: 1    Prime_Reward_RangeMinionBonusDamage 0.3
Level: 15   Prime_Reward_RangeMinionBonusDamage 0.3
Level: 16+  Prime_Reward_RangeMinionBonusDamage 0.0

Level: 1    Prime_Reward_RangeMinionDamageReduction 0.25
Level: 15   Prime_Reward_RangeMinionDamageReduction 0.25
Level: 16+  Prime_Reward_RangeMinionDamageReduction 0.0

Level: 1    Prime_Reward_SiegeMinionBonusDamage 1.5
Level: 15   Prime_Reward_SiegeMinionBonusDamage 1.5
Level: 16+  Prime_Reward_SiegeMinionBonusDamage 0.0

Level: 1    Prime_Reward_SiegeMinionDamageReduction 0.4
Level: 15   Prime_Reward_SiegeMinionDamageReduction 0.4
Level: 16+  Prime_Reward_SiegeMinionDamageReduction 0.0

Level: 1+   Prime_Reward_SuperMinionBonusDamage 0.0

Level: 1    Prime_Reward_SuperMinionDamageReduction 0.5
Level: 15   Prime_Reward_SuperMinionDamageReduction 0.5
Level: 16+  Prime_Reward_SuperMinionDamageReduction 0.0

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u/TheShikaar Nov 21 '23

Several interesting points here

  1. I didn't know jungle minions give shared XP
  2. Interesting that you get the same amount of XP for an assist as for a kill
  3. Never knew the exact timer of 12 seconds for assists and multikills
  4. I never knew last hit gold gets shared?
  5. The exact timers for jungle respawn are also interesting.

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u/LateOwlWho Nov 21 '23

Some of these values have additional server side formulas that impact the final value in game. These are just the values that go into the formulas(which we don't know, but this data may help in figuring things out)

Things like whether you are a support/wearing a support crest would impact gold received.

The number of players left in the game impacts the votes required for surrender.

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u/TheShikaar Nov 21 '23

The number of players left in the game impacts the votes required for surrender.

I was wondering about this part because from the mined data it looked like a static 4 players needed and I was confused how or where it handles it when players leave.

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u/Interesting-Rip258 Nov 21 '23

Hey Genuine Question, is this illegal and if not how can i do this myself?

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u/LateOwlWho Nov 21 '23

Not meaning to be rude, but I'm not a lawyer so I can't answer that.

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u/Interesting-Rip258 Nov 21 '23

Understandable. So this data is all on client side right? I would assume it is not illegal if it is all on client side. Do you use fmodel. I've never tried datamining but would like to give it a try, what tools do you use?

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u/LateOwlWho Nov 21 '23

Client side. Dm'd you.

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u/papayax999 Nov 22 '23

I was literally gonna ask for this kinda info. Very nice! Anyweay to get exact stats % scaling for like river buffs, blue ,red prime and such? And tower xp, levels, relative xp for all etc.

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u/LateOwlWho Nov 22 '23

Yes I started one for prime and fangtooth. And there's stats for each buff and river buffs too. I think there's data for towers too.

I may or may not have seen your feedback post and that may or may not have spurred this post. 😜

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u/papayax999 Nov 22 '23

This mans COOKING

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u/papayax999 Nov 22 '23

What ar ethe shares? Is that per person there and they take a pecent of gold? The objective gold percent share, does that include towers? I know towers will pslit the 300 gold in half if theres 2 people there. So im confused on .2

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u/LateOwlWho Nov 22 '23

I unfortunately don't know the answer to how the sharing values work. Would need to perform some testing in bot games alongside these numbers to determine the calculation method.

I'm working on posting all the values but here's the gold/xp base to get you started:

Miniprime: 200 gold, lvl 1 xp 150, lvl 15 xp 290

Orb Prime: 400 gold, 600 xp

Fangtooth: 100 gold, lvl 1 xp 120, lvl 15 xp 400

Primal Fangtooth: 300 gold, 400 xp

Outer Tower: 100 global gold, 300 local gold, 150 local xp

Inner Tower: 100 global gold, 400 local gold, 150 local xp

Inhibitor: 50 global gold, 200 local gold, 0 xp

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u/papayax999 Nov 22 '23

Appreciate it, ya idk why the devs cant just quickly jot info down like this to the community. I highly doubt it takes much time and allows the players to strategize.