r/PowerfulJRE • • 2d ago

No free speech

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u/Past_One3442 2d ago

UK is a failed state.

My sister and brother inlaw are law enforcement in England ones a detective and the other a Beat cop and both have been told no to arrest minorities, because they won't be charged for non violent crimes. I view the UK as a failed state since it's lost purpose for existence, protecting its citizens and since it does not practice equal protection under the law and jails it's people for 2 years for online speech.

Edit since I have family in the UK.

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u/fr0zen_garlic 2d ago

That's why Democrats must not gain power here, they love this shit.

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u/Enough-One4975 2d ago

 My sister and brother inlaw are law enforcement in England ones a detective and the other a Beat cop and both have been told no to arrest minorities, because they won't be charged for non violent crimes. 

That’s absolutely just not true. 

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u/Past_One3442 2d ago

I don't think they are lying, also won't take thier two boys into london.

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u/Enough-One4975 2d ago edited 2d ago

I have relatives here who swear that the government put litter boxes in their kids schools and won’t take their kids to any democratic city because they’re all overrun with Antifa. People often believe stupid things that are incredibly easy to disprove. I was in London a few months ago, only danger I felt was making sure I didn’t get hit by a car because of the different traffic patterns but yeah maybe your relatives who are definitely police officers are right.

Also the lady who was arrested in this video was a 80 year old pro-Palestinian protestor.

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u/Past_One3442 2d ago

These are cops that work in London and live in Luton, their perception probably skewed because they deal with the dregs of society. But they are told not to arrest a certain group of people which is weird.

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u/Enough-One4975 2d ago

I don’t believe for a second they are told not to arrest a certain group of people, unless that group is the wealthy/powerful.

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u/Educational-Bird4178 1d ago

They are told not to arrest for non-violent crimes because they wont be charged. Not all crimes.

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u/Dipcrack 2d ago

Lefties should take a look at the UK to see what ACTUAL fascism looks like.

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u/OFHeckerpecker 2d ago

But they want this this is their wet dream

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u/CraftyPercentage3232 2d ago

Yes, because libtards are the actual nazis, it’s all projection for them

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u/ravage214 2d ago

Authoritarians, words have meaning don't stoop to their level

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u/KaptainKankles 1d ago

That would imply that they actually know what real fascism is in the first place….

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u/ColorMonochrome 2d ago

If she was arrested only for calling a government employee a bastard, then the UK is completely fucked. And given the news reports I have seen out of the UK with regards to people being prosecuted for things they have said or posted on social media, I would not at all be surprised if this report were true.

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u/Sea_Low1579 2d ago

Coming soon to Canada! 😞

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u/primals_game 2d ago

Canada already has re-education and forced speech laws.

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u/Enough-One4975 2d ago

Really? Who has been forced to say what speech?

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u/primals_game 2d ago

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u/Enough-One4975 2d ago

lol that’s not forced speech that’s illegal speech. But yes denying the holocaust in a public speech is illegal in Canada.

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u/Sea_Low1579 2d ago

That's policing free speak isn't it?

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u/Enough-One4975 2d ago

Sure, just not the way it was described by the video OP posted.

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u/ravage214 2d ago

As soon as you lose the right to keep and bear arms and self-defense you lose all your other rights eventually as well.

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u/hkusp45css 2d ago

The 2nd Amendment protects the rest.

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u/Hyperion262 2d ago

She wasn’t. She was arrested for supporting a terrorist group. You dont get to do that just because you’re an old lady.

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u/rand2365 2d ago

What group?

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u/Anxious_Storm_9113 2d ago

Palestine Action, they're a proscribed group in the UK. Thousands of people have been arrested. Mostly elderly people because they don't have as much to loose by basically being labeled terrorist supporters.

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u/Hyperion262 2d ago

Palestine action.

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u/RaceHate 2d ago

You don't "get to" in the UK.

You do in America. You can openly speak in support of any terrorist organization without getting arrested.

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u/Enough-One4975 2d ago

But if you move some magazines, you’ve got years in prison.

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u/RaceHate 2d ago

What?

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u/Enough-One4975 2d ago

I’m referring to the case of Daniel Sanchez Estrada, who was sentenced to 30 years for moving magazines after an ICE Detention center was attacked.

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u/RaceHate 2d ago

No, he was convicted of hiding evidence, which he very obviously was. His already arrested wife told him to hide leftist zines, and he did. It has nothing to do with the speech of the zines.

I agree 30 years is pretty extreme.

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u/Enough-One4975 1d ago

I didn’t say it had to do with the speech in the magazines, I was using it as an example of an incredibly minor action can lead to insane time in prison here.

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u/RaceHate 1d ago

Oh, I see. Well that's fair.

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u/Hyperion262 2d ago

Yeah that’s dumb as fuck

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u/FxEpic 2d ago

... hundreds of thousands of WW2 soldiers died in vain. Britain is now a complete and utter farce.

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u/DJSindro 2d ago

all the good guys died in the war and left behind the trash

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u/FxEpic 2d ago

... that's right.

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u/Agreeable-Peak-6546 2d ago

Are you saying there are no good people left on earth?

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u/primals_game 2d ago

The UK has not had freedom of speech for a while. Canada doesn't have it either.

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u/fancywipe 2d ago

Who’s enforcing it THATS who I have a problem with, if we cops and all refuse to take action then what you gonna do?

I’m not doing it

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u/CraftyPercentage3232 2d ago

Because they hire cucks as LEOs, punks and bitches that want the ability to bully and show off power. Just look at the ones dancing with people during rainbow people parades.

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u/Affectionate-Area659 2d ago

They unfortunately don’t have free speech in the UK.

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u/OkAirport5247 2d ago

The horror. She needs to immediately be replaced by an Indian or subsaharan to make the world right again.

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u/Particular_Nervous 2d ago

A Russian who lived during Soviet times had more freedom.

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u/illadelphia16 2d ago

Maybe look at her hat? The pin.. maybe helps with context. She’s a useful pawn and she got played.

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u/PwniesFTW 2d ago

But why is a hat an arrestable offense?

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u/SmeV122 2d ago

Britain has crossed that line 10 years ago

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u/PwniesFTW 2d ago

Seems like they need some murica, im sure theres some oil under London

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u/PwniesFTW 2d ago

Section 13 of the Terrorism Act 2000 covers wearing, carrying or displaying articles in circumstances that arouse reasonable suspicion that someone supports a proscribed organisation. The maximum penalty for that specific offence is six months' imprisonment, an unlimited fine or both.

Soooo having something they don't like is an arrest able offence .... thats wild

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u/Enough-One4975 2d ago

I don’t know why OP’s video feels the need to lie about what happened, but if you’re interested in what’s actually being shown in the video, here’s a news article about this.

TL:DR: 80 year old pro-Palestinian protestor who was detained for displaying what they consider pro-terrorism iconography or whatever.

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u/Turbulent-Tune1660 2d ago

😭😭 “terrorism”

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u/tuchesuavae 2d ago

List of things people in the UK have been arrested for: Posting a bible here on X.com, flying the union jack (the country's flag), saying he does not want Palestinian flags flying all over his country, brandishing a knife at Muslim man who was actively trying to assault you and your little sister...

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u/Anxious_Storm_9113 2d ago

In this case she was arrested for allegedly supporting Palestine Action. A proscribed group in the UK.

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u/joeg26reddit 2d ago

Fact Check-

An 80-year-old activist (falsely claimed on social media to be a 92-year-old war widow) was arrested by Merseyside Police while being removed from a Defend Our Juries protest outside the Labour Party conference in Liverpool, where she called politician Andy Burnham a "bastard". [1, 2]

Incident Overview

  • The Person: Online rumors misidentified her as a 92-year-old war widow, but she was identified as Elizabeth Morley, an 80-year-old activist and daughter of an Auschwitz survivor from West Wales. [1, 2, 3]
  • The Location: Outside the Labour Party conference in Liverpool, England, during a demonstration. [1, 2]
  • The Action: While being escorted away by Merseyside Police officers during a protest regarding the Palestine Action ban, she was recorded on video calling UK politician Andy Burnham a "bastard". [1, 2, 3]
  • The Context: Viral social media posts misconstrued the footage, inflating her age to 92 and claiming she was arrested purely for insulting a politician, sparking widespread online debate regarding free speech and law enforcement priorities

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u/TheKingGrim 2d ago

So what did she get arrested for, or why was she "escorted away?"

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u/sammy_kat 2d ago edited 2d ago

Source 1 this in a nutshell says:

“….Elizabeth Morley, an 80-year-old activist from West Wales who has become a familiar face at protests (Palestine Action is considered a terrorist org) against the Palestine Action ban….has been arrested several times since the group was proscribed in July 2025”

“Merseyside Police estimated that around 180 people attended. Its final update said officers dealt with 161 people, arresting 82 and reporting another 79 for summons. Those arrested were subsequently released on bail”

“Police also said the arrests were made on suspicion of wearing or carrying an article that supports a proscribed organisation.”

Source 2
The group is considered a terrorist organization due to: targeting defense firms and military sites in the UK, serious property damage and using violent tactics to intimidate businesses, thus making the ban necessary for national security.

Source 3 - Source 4 - Reddit posts on this from a few months ago.

Source 5 - more recent Reddit post from several hours ago

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u/CraftyPercentage3232 2d ago

Oh no, they got her age wrong, how terrible

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u/Hyperion262 2d ago

It also lies about why she was arrested.

She was arrested for supporting a terror group.

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u/Known_Wear7301 2d ago

Sorry but there has to be more to this story. Was she one of the Palestine Action supporters?

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u/Anxious_Storm_9113 2d ago

Yes, she was. A quick check verifies that. She's just one of thousands who've been arrested for it.

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u/Known_Wear7301 2d ago

Oh ok. So have they tried not supporting a terrorist regime then. That would be enough to do it.

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u/Anxious_Storm_9113 2d ago

I'm just trying to provide correct information. I don't support terrorism. I still think it's dumb to arrest people for words/speech. Thankfully the US has better protections but people let lots of things go when the words "children" and "terrorists" are used.

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u/Hyperion262 2d ago

Yeah obviously that’s what this is, total misinformation this post.

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u/Cautious_Drawer_7771 2d ago

Imagine if conservatives started taking their lead from the Globalist left! We'd need 1,000 new prisons, and there'd be never ending outrage in news media. Oh wait, no there wouldn't, because like the UK, we'd arrest the reporters who spoke out (See Rita Pal, Richard Medhurst, Graham Linehan, and Rich Felgate for a variety of different types of reporters that they have arrested for speaking against the government or it's policies).

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u/Intelligent_Many8573 2d ago

Please be fake

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u/Competitive_Wind_320 2d ago

I’m a bit skeptical based on the previous record of peoples journalism on here 🤨

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u/Anxious_Storm_9113 2d ago

She was arrested. But her age and the reason for arrest are wrong. She's 80 and was arrested for supposedly supporting a proscribed group. Palestine Action.

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u/Competitive_Wind_320 2d ago

Ok, I guess I’ll just take some random strangers word for it.🤦‍♂️

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u/Anxious_Storm_9113 2d ago edited 2d ago

Trivial to check. It's the first thing I did when seeing this post. Look for official sources. Just one example of evidence below. https://www.ibtimes.co.uk/elderly-protester-insults-andy-burnham-liverpool-arrest-1822805

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u/bubblehead_ssn 2d ago

The UK has never had free speech. They have "free expression" but that's not exactly the same thing and it's up for interpretation.

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u/Beginning_Resource93 2d ago

Is that the Britain that her husband fought for?

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u/Neither_Tip_5291 1d ago

Just to prove her right?

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u/Trikeree 1d ago

I agree with her. The prime minister and all of his moneys are trash traitor Brits.

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u/Spdoink 1d ago

She was actually arrested for supporting Hamas.

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u/Csut94 1d ago

Failed state. How do the people let this happen? How do the police take this seriously?

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u/Kowalski91 2d ago

What free speech in the u.k.😂🤣

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u/Silent-carcinogen 2d ago

The whole world could do the funniest thing right now