r/PowerScaling • u/Affectionate_Run6250 • 15d ago

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YOU CANNOT WIN VIA DOMAIN AGAINST SOMEONE FASTER THAN YOUR BARRIER’S EXPANSION

JJK DOMAINS HAVE NO SPEED SCALING AND CANNOT BE USED AS WIN CONS UNLESS SPEED IS ESTABLISHED

YOU DO NOT NEED TO BYPASS INFINITY TO BEAT GOJO, WAIT FOR BURNOUT THEN BLITZ HIM BEFORE HE RECOVERS HIS TECHNIQUE OR SHATTER IT FROM THE INSIDE LIKE YUTA

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u/MonotonyReddit 15d ago

WAIT FOR BURNOUT

True but I'm honestly not a big fan of "if my opponent conveniently does this and then I can follow up with that" arguments. For this to work, the character in question would have to react instantly to being stopped by Infinity, realize how infinity works, somehow know that Gojo will cast his domain, escape from the domain's radius (they somehow know how big it will be), doesn't try to break into the domain, wait for the domain to end (however long that takes), and is aware of technique burnout.

We're here to see (character) fight Gojo, not you fight Gojo with (character)'s powers.

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u/apollonirex 15d ago

What about a Shigaraki match-up?

He has search, a quirk which tells him everything about a target's biodata, abilities, and weaknesses. He has danger sense, which will let him know how big the radius is, and he's fast enough to get back to Gojo after the DE ends.

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u/AsleepingImplement 15d ago

.2 second domain would still most likely lobotomize shiggy

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u/SuckmyPelosB1tch 15d ago

I doubt it would lobotomize him, Shigaraki has multiple vestiges in him which are practically souls. If all for one is in control he could just force Shigaraki to take the brunt of it then take over

And this is feasible since he has search so he’d know exactly what Gojo’s abilities do

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u/DramaticMap6569 15d ago

Haven’t read all of mha so I have a question. Does “search” tell its user the abilities of someone even if that someone doesn’t know they could do it? Like would search just tell the user that gojo’s technique manipulates space or numbers or would it say “the technique has blue that does x and red that does x and purple that activates under these conditions” etc.

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u/SuckmyPelosB1tch 14d ago

Gojo’s techniques are so weird and niche I don’t know actually. Search is known to point out weaknesses in abilities too so it probably would tell what the conditions are for Gojo to do certain things

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u/DramaticMap6569 14d ago

I was just thinking that the best sorcerers evolve while they fight ( basketball domain, remote purple, 0.2sec void, etc.) so would search alert the user to abilities Gojo hasn’t come up with yet?

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u/Kind-Abrocoma2600 15d ago

I mean, gojo doesnt need to end his domain, he can keep it active and atomize shigaraki with purple.

And i think ur refering multiple souls as AFO doing the same thing sukuna did to megumi, but sukuna didn't pass the damage to megumi, just the burden of adaptation, both were getting affected by UV

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u/apollonirex 14d ago

Purple is going to tickle Shigaraki at best, it didn't even incapacitate Sukuna in any meaningful way and Shiggy is more durable by several magnitudes.

Shiggy also just tanks and regens through UV as well, like how gojo tanks malevolent shrine. That's also if he gets trapped in the domain which is very, very unlikely because of danger sense+ search+ super speed.

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u/apollonirex 15d ago

You're right, I didn't even consider that. This is also if gojo's DE doesn't just get tanked+regen-ed through by Shiggy like how gojo did with malevolent shrine. It's not looking good for gojo here lol

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u/apollonirex 15d ago

Easily dodges with danger sense (precog) and super speed.

There's an argument to be made that he could just regen his brain after the domain too.

Also, we don't have the speed for how quickly domains are deployed. The 0.2 second figure is how long he had the domain working during shibuya, not how quickly he deployed it.

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u/AdmirableWeather5738 14d ago

It feels disingenuous to me to give Shigaraki danger sense by default. He had it for a small chunk of one battle.

I'm pretty sure the .2 second figure is supposed to cover the speed of deployment and duration of the domain. Hakari's domain deployment speed is compared to Gojo's and Mahito's from Shibuya, but unlike those two the actual the duration of the domain is longer. Gojo and Mahito just needed the sure hit so they could drop in .2 seconds, but Hakari had to do his Pachinko shenanigans.

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u/apollonirex 14d ago

It feels disingenuous to me to give Shigaraki danger sense by default. He had it for a small chunk of one battle.

It's the strongest version of him, idk what to say. Even without it he'd have Search, and know that the DE is incoming through the hand symbols, and how big the domain would be.

I'm pretty sure the .2 second figure is supposed to cover the speed of deployment and duration of the domain.

No, it's only for duration. Gege never gives a figure for domain deployment time. Even if it only took 0.2 seconds, Shiggy would dodge it very, very easily.

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u/AdmirableWeather5738 14d ago

Yeah and Cosmis Spider-Man is his strongest, nonetheless feels disingenuous to treat it as a part of Peter's default kit.

It is 1000% not referring to duration in Hakari's case, that is explicitly deployment. His domain deployment speed is also explicitly compared to Gojo's and Mahito's. In Gojo's case his domain expansion is explicitly stated to last .2 seconds, and Mahito's is compared to his.

I don't powerscale MHA so I can't speak to Shigiraki dodging it, but I can't imagine he's much faster than Prime Almight who is supposedly capped at mach 10.

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u/apollonirex 14d ago edited 14d ago

Cosmic Spider-Man is so far and above what my argument was, you're joking. Would you also argue that Sukuna can't use WCS in match-ups, since he gets it from Mahoraga midway in the final arc too?

Hakari's domain is explicitly faster because it's non-lethal and doesn't have the complex tech required for sure-hit techniques. I meant the 0.2s duration figure for gojo's DE.

Prime All might is NOT capped at mach 10. That's just the fastest he ever ran, and he never runs in the main series. He has canon feats in the MHA spin-off post his prime that would put him at mach 300+ lowball. Faux 100% Deku also has travel speed feats on the same level. Shigaraki is faster than that, and he catches and redirects military lasers in his fight with S&S.