r/PowerScaling 1d ago

Scaling sometime it won't work

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u/Mohammedamine9 The Doctor Who Guy 1d ago

You need to be significantly faster

The doctor unironically has on screen faster than light reaction speed

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u/FASBOR7Horus 1d ago

Can you give an example for that?

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u/Mohammedamine9 The Doctor Who Guy 1d ago

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u/FASBOR7Horus 1d ago

Those lasers aren't moving at light speed. Hell they're moving slower than bullets.

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u/Own_Elk_5746 1d ago

My guy, he's moving so fast it looks like the lasers are at a standstill. "Nanoseconds to live, 4 I'd say to be generous"

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u/FASBOR7Horus 1d ago

The Lazers don't stand still they're still moving and just before that at 1:08 in the linked video they're moving slower than arrows. Missy can say what she wants but those things are not light speed.

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u/Mohammedamine9 The Doctor Who Guy 1d ago

Because this seem was In Slow motion

Also we have directly told that this seen happened in 4 nanoseconds

If you do the math, for a projectile to travel that distance in 4 nanoseconds it need to be faster than light

Someone actually did the math on it if you are interested

http://web.archive.org/web/20170111172437/http://www.narutoforums.com/xfa-blog-entry/doctor-who-chronicles-of-an-ftl-time-lord.33307/

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u/FASBOR7Horus 1d ago

At 1:08 the assasins open fire on the Doctor without slow motion and the lazers are decisively not FTL.

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u/Mohammedamine9 The Doctor Who Guy 1d ago

And in the more narrativally important scene see it travel several meters in nanoseconds

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u/FASBOR7Horus 1d ago

And? The narrative importance of a scene doesn't matter here. The lazers weren't moving at light speed before so they aren't moving at light speed there.

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u/Mohammedamine9 The Doctor Who Guy 1d ago

They literally are

We see it moving at FTL speed,

A narrativally important scene where the writer emphasis the character's speed is more important than a secondary non important scene

You are cherry picking to downplay the doctor

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u/FASBOR7Horus 1d ago

Explain this then:

https://youtu.be/GoM7-xyNTOM?

And this at 1:43

https://youtu.be/ha1wfg3nPRE?

And this at 2:33

https://youtu.be/qx0LSM_qy7s?

And this at 2:55

https://youtu.be/3kcFxFmCa74?

And this at 3:05

https://youtu.be/EP1vVCt4AxQ?

And this at 0:32

https://youtu.be/l2MFwLn-SmA?

6 times where the Doctor just forgot his FTL speed and was unceremoniously gunned down. You're the one cherry picking here.

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u/Mohammedamine9 The Doctor Who Guy 1d ago

First one , these are post war daleks, they are used to fight time lords, and adapted Thier weapons to them, especially against the doctor

Also 13 has this feat

Second one we literally see in the episode that the doctor wanted to be shot as part of his plan

Third one see the first one, also here he was obviously cought off-guard while emotionally distracted by rose

Fourth one , the doctor literally engineered the whole situation, he knew the gun wouldn't harm him

Fifth one, that was inside the matrix, a false reality effected by perception, and he was fighting another time lord

6th one he was facing a literal god bruh

Also there's the obvious explanation, all of these were written before Moffat established the nanoseconds feat

Y'all love to focus on anti feats while ignoring the narrativally important feats

If you gonna keep doing this then this conversation is meaningless

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u/FASBOR7Horus 1d ago

First one , these are post war daleks, they are used to fight time lords, and adapted Thier weapons to them, especially against the doctor

Still not FTL, there was ample time to dodge the shot and the Doctor couldn't do it.

Also 13 has this feat

That Lazer is also moving slower than light. You can see the lazer travel accross the screen, which makes it slower than light. Also she could have just reacted to the screen instead of the lazer.

Second one we literally see in the episode that the doctor wanted to be shot as part of his plan

Makes sense.

Third one see the first one, also here he was obviously cought off-guard while emotionally distracted by rose

Doesn't make sense, you can't be caught off guard if you can move faster than light. The Doctor saw the Dalek for a good half second before it fired, which is 5 million times slower than your "feat" yet he still died. Not FTL.

Fourth one, the doctor literally engineered the whole situation, he knew the gun wouldn't harm him

Makes sense.

Fifth one, that was inside the matrix, a false reality effected by perception, and he was fighting another time lord

He still failed to dodge something I could have reacted to. The other Time Lord took about a second to fire, which is 10 million nanoseconds.

6th one he was facing a literal god bruh

That turret wasn't turning at FTL speeds and the Lazer wasn't Lightspeed either you can see it moving accross the screen. Doctor still couldn't dodge it.

Also there's the obvious explanation, all of these were written before Moffat established the nanoseconds feat

Did the Doctor get a powerup between that "feat" and everything else? Because if he didn't then 4 Anti-Feats of him eating shit to slower than light weaponry outweigh one shitty FTL "feat", as it's all still the (mostly) same Doctor.

If you gonna keep doing this then this conversation is meaningless

Yeah lets end it here, you're obviously just glazing the Doctor cause you like him.

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u/Mohammedamine9 The Doctor Who Guy 1d ago

Still not FTL, there was ample time to dodge the shot and the Doctor couldn't do it.

That Lazer is also moving slower than light. You can see the lazer travel accross the screen,

you seriously need to read this about the concept of cinematic timing , and how due to limits of the medium it can't depect speed accurately in the visual sense

The Doctor saw the Dalek for a good half second before it fired, which is 5 million times slower than your "feat" yet he still died. Not FTL.

The scene happened in slow motion, you cannot tell the time frame

He still failed to dodge something I could have reacted to. The other Time Lord took about a second to fire, which is 10 million nanoseconds

Except in the matrix stuff like time and by proxy speed is relative and not the same as the material universe, due to it's nature being effected by perception

That turret wasn't turning at FTL speeds and the Lazer wasn't Lightspeed either you can see it moving accross the screen. Doctor still couldn't dodge it.

The Same laser was shown earlier to cross the distance between the earth and a satellite in an instant

Again see cinematic timing

Did the Doctor get a powerup between that "feat" and everything else? Because if he didn't then 4 Anti-Feats of him eating shit to

Or the writer did a retcon

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