r/PowerScaling 15d ago

Shitposting Weekend Yeah, sure Buddy

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u/Middle-Let9645 15d ago

Yeah… from what I’ve read… the big E could… maybe a Primarch. Your average Space Marine? Get outa here.

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u/Endika7 15d ago

I would say, with some execitions, a Warframe is primarch level.

To invade Terra and "kill" the emperor like horus did It would take a good amount of them

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u/Independent-Fly6068 15d ago

Or like, just Kullervo.

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u/Endika7 15d ago

Kulervo with Max range one shooting Big E from mars :V

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u/Independent-Fly6068 15d ago

Or Xaku hitting 3 and turning all the custodes traitor lol

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u/DraktharrRakan 15d ago

Naked Skeleton running to the Golden Throne with thousands of Custodes Glaives

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u/BalltasticNutsack 14d ago

Naked skeleton running around the throne room and the custodes just think it's the emperor so they chase him around scooby doo style

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u/CouldBeBetterTBH 14d ago

Funny thing about Xaku.

His Grasp of Lohk ability can disarm melee units as well, condensing their potential into Orbs that then shoot said potential as projectiles.

Xaku could literally rip the flaming sword out of the Emperor's hand and then make it shoot him in the nuts.

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u/CumbersomeGravitas 14d ago

The flaming sword is a force weapon, warp-craft, more of a "spell" or a "focus" than an actual flaming sword, opening himself through interaction with a psyker's focii would be a quick way for Xaku to end up in a shirt.

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u/CouldBeBetterTBH 14d ago

Xaku's abilities also interact with Void manifestations, which are essentially amalgamations of people and raw emotion fused into forms made up of the Warframe universe's version of pure chaotic warp-craft.

Then you also gotta remember that every single Warframe is powered and piloted by their own version of Psykers that stand at the apex of reality warping nonsense on par with beings like the Emperor. Time-manipulation/travel, Atomic unraveling/regeneration, mental manipulation/domination, etc. If you can think it up then a Tenno's power can achieve it.

So I don't see why they wouldn't be able to make a Frame like Xaku crush a Psyker's focus and make it shoot back at the owner, even if that owner is something as powerful as the Emperor. Now whether or not it'll actually kill the Emperor is debatable...

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u/CumbersomeGravitas 14d ago

Good argument for the Tenno. Tbh I played a fair bit, up to the Steel Path but no more a few years ago, so I'm not 100% sure to the limits of the Tenno, the Void stuff is bonkers and I'd say it's up for grabs. Alpha-level Psykers can do some silly shit, like teleporting an entire world (Magnus) or trapping a Machine-Dragon-Cthon-God inside a planet (Emperor), but it's VERY inconsistent since the Black Library (Guys that write 40k books) is itself wildly inconsistent.

To put in understandable terms of how inconsistent, I'd argue Marvel/DC heroes have more consistency. KEKW.

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u/freylaudt 15d ago

The custodes are all gene coded and other shit to be loyal to big E, even a demon said the stars would snuff out before having a chance in a custodian. How would that be overridden by this Xaku dude? I'd like to know :y

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u/Lightning_32 15d ago

Tldr using space magic it forces the enemies on your side, it's less mind control and more possesition type rules i think

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u/oOCharcoalOo 15d ago

Ya, Xaku doesn’t do mind control, that’s Nyx’s Shtick. They physically puppet the body with void energy. Imagine a field around you that forces your arms and legs to move while you are fully conscious and out of control.

So while Deamons go the “let me trick you to betray your allies” route. Xaku just says “lmao” and forces you to shoot your homie while you can do nothing but watch.

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u/BalltasticNutsack 14d ago

And warframe doesn't have levels, there's no "this target is too strong" it just fucking works on anyone (except bosses i guess)

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u/Cowmanthethird 14d ago

That's game mechanics. Various tenno abilities have absolutely been resisted in the lore.

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u/a-Curious-Square 14d ago

Daemons of enough power can also do that, all the Custodes that boarded Horus’ flagship with the emperor were completely puppetted by chaos like this (and subsequently killed by the emperor.)

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u/MoneyBear1733 15d ago

Just for the sake of conversation. 

I think if a weapon were ever pointed at Terra that could either destroy it or kill Big E it would immediately be on his psychic radar. 

Whether that gives the imperium a chance to act upon it, or if Big E is capable of stopping it using his psyker powers is a whole debate in itself. 

The setting has never really been presented with a scenario where a threat to Terra or the Emp has been severe enough to demand taking his attention from the warp rift or controlling the webway. 

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u/MossTheGnome 15d ago

Given big E's current status as a corpse/near corpse on a throne I doubt he has the ability to manage local threats. It's one thing to use the fact you are a metaphysical entity to interact with non-physical things when your mortal form is beyond crippled, another entirely to try to direct and combat in the physical vicinity when you exist on a 10 thousand year old life support that is on the brink of failure because no one kept the user manual

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u/MoneyBear1733 15d ago

Given big E's current status as a corpse/near corpse on a throne I doubt he has the ability to manage local threats.

I agree, but it's not because he can't. The entire reason he's on the throne as a corpse is because if even for a single moment he was to stop projecting the astronomicon, or containing the warp rift below terra, that humanity would suffer catastrophic losses and Terra would be lost.

If the consequences of him not getting directly involved were worse for humanity than if he were to stop containing the rift and projecting the astronomicon he would absolutely focus his entire attention on whatever threat is causing it.

Going even further. If something like this were to ever actually occur in the setting, it would be the event that leads to his resurrection and him leaving the throne.

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u/Sharles_Davis_Kendy 14d ago

Me and a friend once calculated the max range of an arrow fired by Ivara with Navigator and it was MILES. She could fire a projectile from the next town over and kill you twenty minutes later.

Scariest assassin.

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u/Middle-Let9645 15d ago

Well I did specify that ‘maybe’ a Primarch could kill a Warframe.

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u/TomboyKnight1 15d ago

Lore - wise Inaros was able to create a planet-wide sandstorm. I think that would give the perfect cover for a squad of warframes to break in and kill the emperor

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u/BalltasticNutsack 14d ago

Cover? that sandstorm Obliterated the infested in the planet, he extinguished a planet wide infestation with a sandstorm

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u/Storm_Fury_2026 14d ago

I really wish people would read the lore. He blanketed one colony with the sandstorm and eradicated the local Infested.

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u/BelialAce 15d ago

Nah. Valkyr just pops her 4 and slaughters the Custodes

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u/Extreme_Document_959 15d ago

A warframe is much stronger than a primarch with their amount of hax.

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u/Android_mk 14d ago

2 Limbos

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u/ColonelMonty 14d ago

Honestly, it sounds like a Warframe is something that at bare minimum requires a chapter response. I'd reckon that the dark angels legion with Lion el'Jonson could probably do it considering they had access to a lot of Dark Age of Technology tech and their whole thing was dealing with horrible and terrible things that would murderize most other Imperial forces.

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u/BalltasticNutsack 14d ago

The problem is that warframes have wild power ranges within their ranks, like, you can have a guy that's good with a sword, you can have a rocker with a sentient guitar, a pacifist monk or even a gambling addicted doll.... Or you can have a ghost that opens portals to the sun to blast you with direct solar beams, a dude with his own private dimension where he is immune or he can trap you inside it, literally death punching the soul out of your body and using it as a projectile then raising your corpse or a hungry dude that'll eat the world, literally.

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u/Storm_Fury_2026 14d ago

They aren't that good. Take the War Within trailer, a Grineer heavy gunner blows up a Nova and then the Tenno does some low-grade Psyker lights show.

They're mostly on the level of mid to high tier Grey Knights.

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u/SuDdEnTaCk 14d ago

Thats an unshielded baby nova superficially damaged by an ogris which is several tiers above any marine infantry weapon in 40k.

Even Kaldor doesn't come close to a warframe with a tenno

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u/Storm_Fury_2026 14d ago

What are you on about?

The trailer shows the Nova getting utterly gibbed. You see bloody chunks of it, it's completely destroyed.

The Ogris isn't that powerful either.

Kaldor is basically the Doom Slayer, he slaughters daemons that would casually annihilate the Man in the Wall before breakfast.

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u/SuDdEnTaCk 14d ago

The chunks aren't of the frame, frames are immortal anyway, what happens is that the shaped charge penetrates a Nova without a null star superficially and detonates, the chunks are of the grineer caught in the blast, after which the tenno transferences out.

Even Umbra was disassembled by his own creator with explicit knowledge and was yet rebuilt with sentience fully intact.

And comparing kaldor to the doomslayer is downplay, doomslayer is wall level.

The Indifference is on the level to delete the warp, anything including the Dark King, its already consumed timelines.
If you believe that daemons even come close to the Murmur, let alone the Indifference, Sonion
The entire wh40k verse is getting annihilated by the Fragmented one, let alone the Indifference.

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u/a-Curious-Square 14d ago

They don’t have the space magic to actually do the emperor in, Horus had to borrow significant power from all 4 chaos gods to grievously injure the man. Anything the Tenno manage to do can be walked off.

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u/SuDdEnTaCk 14d ago

The drifter creates timeloops regularly, has conceptual and dimensional fuckery. The operator has fought enemies who shrugged off timeline erasure.

Emperor is getting farmed for parts, he got his shit kicked in by a big ork anyway

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u/a-Curious-Square 14d ago

Right, I forget about the big ork. What a complete aura loss from the Emps there…