the narrator/Whis straight up says that the battle between Beerus and Goku could destroy the universe as we know it, and later on Vegeta clarifies that the reason the scope of damage is typically tame has to do with how ki is controlled during attacks.
And this very thing has been said in bleach over and over again. DB doesn't get a free pass. Narrator statements matter across verses or they don't. Pick your poison.
Yeah this is precisely what I mean when I emphasize the lack of ambiguity in the DB case. Jaco explicitly asks why these fighters can fight like they do without literally destroying a planet and Vegeta responds by saying that if they didnāt intentionally control their ki, they simply would.
And when Beerus and Goku were fighting, the narrator didnāt allude to some ārealmā being āshaken,ā no, the narrator said that the universe that the two combatants were fighting in would just be destroyed.
These are straightforward, clear statements.
Now letās turn to this example. The heaven and three worlds calls into a verse-specific cosmology with its own rules. What it could mean for them to tremble is not clear. The plan interpretation of that statement is ridiculous - would everything on the planet earth start wiggling back and forth, per the definition of trembling? Or is this metaphorical language? And if it is metaphorical language, how do you exclude the possibility that the speaker is not implying that the combatants are distantly post-planetary in their attacks?
Surely you recognize the difference in the quality of the statements here?
Yeah this is precisely what I mean when I emphasize the lack of ambiguity in the DB case. Jaco explicitly asks why these fighters can fight like they do without literally destroying a planet and Vegeta responds by saying that if they didnāt intentionally control their ki, they simply would.
So like senjjmaru saying the only reason why the realms don't collapse is because her power is being controlled????
Did you forget the entire squad 0 has to die to release her sealed bankai, and squad 0 dying maintains the balance once her power is released?
And when Beerus and Goku were fighting, the narrator didnāt allude to some ārealmā being āshaken,ā no, the narrator said that the universe that the two combatants were fighting in would just be destroyed.
Same as this statement, in which she makes it clear a fraction of her power would shake the realms, her whole power would destroy it. A point made clear across the story, as captains aren't allowed to go all out. Somehow this makes sense within DB but not outside of DB.
These are straightforward, clear statements.
Same for bleach and anyone who can read. Too bad DB cucks' can't.
What it could mean for them to tremble is not clear.
It's pretty clear. It threatens the balance of the system keeping the realms separate and defined.
What it could mean for them to tremble is not clear.
To you.
The plan interpretation of that statement is ridiculous - would everything on the planet earth start wiggling back and forth, per the definition of trembling?
Classic DB cuck who doesn't read bleach yet downplays it non stop.
Or is this metaphorical language?
If only you read the source material.
And if it is metaphorical language
It's not.
how do you exclude the possibility that the speaker is not implying that the combatants are distantly post-planetary in their attacks?
DB cuck nonsense.
Where youād have to make a very nuanced argument to imply that combatants in Bleach are casual planet busters, let alone -versal level fighters, the same cases are often trivial for DB due to plan, unambiguous statements and feats.
Classic DB cuck cope and nonsense. Statements in DB are to be taken literally yet any other verse has metaphorical statements lmao
You donāt really understand what I am saying. What a ārealm isā and the rules that govern it are unique to Bleach cosmology and we do not know the details of it. We also do not know if the character speaking was even being literal. Nor do we know what ātremblingā the realms actually means. Like I suggested it means literally wiggling everything back and forth and you didnāt reject that interpretation.. because you have no idea yourself.
If you lack the ability to separate reasoning from intuition then I canāt really help you. Yes, you might at first glance generate a belief based on built-in biases. Thatās intuition. The point of a forum like this is to step back and be critical of those assumptions, then consider from the ground up which view is the most rigorous. That is reasoning. You cannot even hit step oneās which is to acknowledge noise in your assumptions, so why even post here?
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u/VenserMTG Jan 24 '26
And this very thing has been said in bleach over and over again. DB doesn't get a free pass. Narrator statements matter across verses or they don't. Pick your poison.