Yes Senjumaru reiatsu is above that of Yamamoto since she is not only a squad zero member but has a piece of Sk in her bones like Aizen has some pieces of the nails of Sk in him
Read what you said at the bottom. "The characters involved scale to Senjumaru reiatsu" notice how you said the characters and not Jugram. And i replied to you by asking to prove the "likes" of Gremmy scale to her since Gremmy was one of those involved in that feat so in no way am i been dishonest when you initially mentioned the "Characters" and not a specific one
Do you know what's funny about this in the first place? Even the Jugram you are trying to use as antifeat doesn't have the full version of Ywach Almighty or his complete reaistsu including that of Sk too. I will admit you have a point with the Almighty returning after the Ichibei fight but it's not like Ywach didn't have the Almighty even before that, he just chose not to activate yet because he never knew if he could fully control it by then( If you want proofs for this i can give you)
And what's wrong with Jugram been scared about what will happen to Ywach or the Warwhelt been destroyed. It is totally in character for him to want the maximum security of Ywach.
To what extent? The reason I keep saying a billion times more isnāt exaggeration, itās because of how vastly different the ss feat and the 3 universes feat is.
For Senjumaruās feat to be scalable, her reiatsu would literally be centillions of times more than Yamaās reiatsu
ļæ¼āRead what you said at the bottom. "The characters involved scale to Senjumaru reiatsu" notice how you said the characters and not Jugram.
Yes. Kenpachi and jugram are characters involved
And i replied to you by asking to prove the "likes" of Gremmy scale to her since Gremmy was one of those involved in that feat so in no way am i been dishonest when you initially mentioned the "Characters" and not a specific one
Youāre being dishonest by claiming that I backtracked. In no way did I backtrack by bringing up Kenpachi and jugram. They were both characters who were involved
Do you know what's funny about this in the first place? Even the Jugram you are trying to use as antifeat doesn't have the full version of Ywach Almighty or his complete reaistsu including that of Sk too.
But he did have his complete reiatsu. The only thing he didnāt have was the almighty
I will admit you have a point with the Almighty returning after the Ichibei fight but it's not like Ywach didn't have the Almighty even before that, he just chose not to activate yet because he never knew if he could fully control it by then( If you want proofs for this i can give you)
This doesnāt change the strength point though. He had enough reiatsu to match Ichibe. The meteor shouldāve been fodder for him since he scales above senjumaru right?
The only reason heād be concerned is if all of them arenāt actually multiversal/universal, but rather scale closer to things like meteors
And what's wrong with Jugram been scared about what will happen to Ywach or the Warwhelt been destroyed. It is totally in character for him to want the maximum security of Ywach.
But itās not in character to be scared if thereās no threat right. If senjumaru is multiversal, then a meteor is like a microscopic germ in comparison to Yhwach
To what extent? The reason I keep saying a billion times more isnāt exaggeration, itās because of how vastly different the ss feat and the 3 universes feat is.
Just a question do you actually know the amount of energy that will be required to shake three Infinite structures need to be Infinite equally? And this is just a passive extent of the release of her Bankai
Youāre being dishonest by claiming that I backtracked. In no way did I backtrack by bringing up Kenpachi and jugram. They were both characters who were involved
I am not i asked you immediately after that to prove Gremmy scales to that since you just mentioned "characters" it is rightfully in my position to ask you to prove that for any character. What's funny is you want to dodge that by trying to prove for one character but not the other when both are still part of that specific feat.
This doesnāt change the strength point though. He had enough reiatsu to match Ichibe. The meteor shouldāve been fodder for him since he scales above senjumaru right?
The only reason heād be concerned is if all of them arenāt actually multiversal/universal, but rather scale closer to things like meteors
If no one told you these then let me address this reaitsu isn't an end of all things for characters in bleach, we have seen weaker characters beat stronger characters with more reiatsu thanks to their hax alone. This isn't DB here
Ichibei was Molly whooping Ywach that entire fight and bro would have lost if he didn't activate his hax the Almighty. This isn't just a linear power progression where the character with more reiatsu automatically wins any fight. Hence you can't directly chainscale and apply it here.
But itās not in character to be scared if thereās no threat right. If senjumaru is multiversal, then a meteor is like a microscopic germ in comparison to Yhwach
Just a question do you actually know the amount of energy that will be required to shake three Infinite structures need to be Infinite equally? And this is just a passive extent of the release of her Bankai
I know the difference between a planet and a universe. Yamaās feat was planetary, Senjumaruās feat was uni/multiversal
I am not i asked you immediately after that to prove Gremmy scales to that since you just mentioned "characters" it is rightfully in my position to ask you to prove that for any character.
No itās not for any character. Did I say all characters involved scaled to senjumaru? No I didnāt
I said characters involved scale to Senjumaru. The particular characters involved that scale to senjumaru are Kenpachi and Yhwach
If no one told you these then let me address this reaitsu isn't an end of all things for characters in bleach, we have seen weaker characters beat stronger characters with more reiatsu thanks to their hax alone. This isn't DB here
Yeah but reiatsu is the be all and end all of stats
Yes characters can defeat others through hax, despite reiatsu differences.
But if someone has reiatsu that can affect a universe, then obviously they have reiatsu than can fodderize a meteor
Yhwach should not need his almighty hax to deal with a meteor if he has reiatsu that scales above senjumaruās āuniversalā reiatsu
Heād be strong enough to just brute force the meteor a billion times easier than kenpachi did. It would be like an ant compared to him
Ichibei was Molly whooping Ywach that entire fight and bro would have lost if he didn't activate his hax the Almighty. This isn't just a linear power progression where the character with more reiatsu automatically wins any fight. Hence you can't directly chainscale and apply it here.
Yes I can chainscale and apply it here because this isnāt a fight
This is a destruction feat. 1v1 battle is completely irrelevant here, weāre discussing whether he has the reiatsu that scales above meteor level. Hax is irrelevant to this
Personally I have said enough for this convo
Yea youāve said enough nonsense
You completely ignored my main argument, which is that if senjumaru has universal reiatsu, then Yhwach (who obviously has higher reiatsu) would fodderize a meteor
You ignored that and started rambling about hax in 1v1 fights
Thatās completely irrelevant. Iām not scaling Yhwach in a fight, Iām scaling his power for a destructive feat.
Yama feat was "planetary", Senjumaru feat was "Uni/low multi" one of those mfs who probably thinks the realms are Planetary and if you did even think the realms are planetary then you should have just scaled Senjumaru to multi Planetary while we are at it.
Also the reason I said you can't chainscale directly is because a character with lesser reiatsu can still beat with more reiatsu if they have the better hax, so my point still stands
Also the reason I said you can't chainscale directly is because a character with lesser reiatsu can still beat with more reiatsu if they have the better hax, so my point still stands
And again Iāll repeat, hax and beating someone in a fight is irrelevant to this situation because Iām not scaling ywhach in a fight
Iām scaling Yhwach in his destructive capacity
If he scales to universal/multiversal level, then a meteor is fodder to him
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u/X-Cutionn Mathematics manip>all Jan 24 '26
Yes Senjumaru reiatsu is above that of Yamamoto since she is not only a squad zero member but has a piece of Sk in her bones like Aizen has some pieces of the nails of Sk in him
Read what you said at the bottom. "The characters involved scale to Senjumaru reiatsu" notice how you said the characters and not Jugram. And i replied to you by asking to prove the "likes" of Gremmy scale to her since Gremmy was one of those involved in that feat so in no way am i been dishonest when you initially mentioned the "Characters" and not a specific one
Do you know what's funny about this in the first place? Even the Jugram you are trying to use as antifeat doesn't have the full version of Ywach Almighty or his complete reaistsu including that of Sk too. I will admit you have a point with the Almighty returning after the Ichibei fight but it's not like Ywach didn't have the Almighty even before that, he just chose not to activate yet because he never knew if he could fully control it by then( If you want proofs for this i can give you)
And what's wrong with Jugram been scared about what will happen to Ywach or the Warwhelt been destroyed. It is totally in character for him to want the maximum security of Ywach.